Call of Duty Vita confirmed for Fall release.

Games need to be tailored for the handheld - you can't just dump a console game down to a handheld and be done. If you want your ports to hit the heights, you've got to redesign for portability.

Then surely MGS3D will tank, as it's exactly a port of a CONSOLE game. That will surely happen.
 
Having messed with vita sticks. They gotta need a lot of autoaim to keep up with CoD.

Or the whole gyro thing.

And people saying 3ds can't do shooter... Give metroid prime hunters a try. People still online will kick your ass.

Now I want a metroid prime on 3ds :(

I think this factor is being overlooked dramatically. The sticks are simply not good for shooting and fast movement. Playing Uncharted is a challenge with the way the sticks are working, and playing a FPS on it is going to be rough.
 
I think this factor is being overlooked dramatically. The sticks are simply not good for shooting and fast movement. Playing Uncharted is a challenge with the way the sticks are working, and playing a FPS on it is going to be rough.

It all depends on the setting. Vita's analogue sensitivity can be tweaked.
 
By striking out brown and grey you seem to have missed the point. The Mario games have bold simple clean graphics with contrasting colours. CoD games don't. Especially for online play which is a huge component of CoD games I'd have thought visual clarity is paramount. I just can't see many CoD players downgrading to a tiny screen.

Clarity ehh. COD is blurry as hell on HDTVs with the 600p resolution. I'll take a wait and see approach if they can hit 60 fps on native resolution of the Vita or close it'll look pretty good.
 
Wii doesn't have a good online infrastructure and also doesn't have dual analog sticks, so the comparison isn't appropriate.

Vita's online infrastructure is only as good as where you are, what connection your hardware SKU can access and what restrictions the developer has put into the game.

That will be the killer of "CoD anywhere!". Most players won't even have the 3G model, 3G is shit anyway (although the chances of the game even supporting online multiplayer over 3G are slim to none IMO), most public Wi-Fi is throttled to hell and sparsely available, both network connections kill the battery and serious PS3 players aren't going to want high-latency, regularly dropping Vita players fucking up their games. Similarly, serious players aren't going to want flaky network connections fucking up their stats.

The potential for the game is amazing, but the reality will be nothing near.
 
Yeah, shocking and all that but I think I'll buy it over the console version (assuming it's the same game, same MP etc) as the way I play CoD MP is more suited to here and there on a handheld rather than a couple of hours in front of the TV.
 
Vita's online infrastructure is only as good as where you are, what connection your hardware SKU can access and what restrictions the developer has put into the game.

That will be the killer of "CoD anywhere!". Most players won't even have the 3G model, 3G is shit anyway (although the chances of the game even supporting online multiplayer over 3G are slim to none IMO), most public Wi-Fi is throttled to hell and sparsely available, both network connections kill the battery and serious PS3 players aren't going to want high-latency, regularly dropping Vita players fucking up their games. Similarly, serious players aren't going to want flaky network connections fucking up their stats.

The potential for the game is amazing, but the reality will be nothing near.

3G, at least here in Europe, is pretty damn good. I used to play SC2 via my iPhone while skipping with various bros and the additional lag was barely noticeable. Given CoD's net code it might just work.
Now battery life is an actual concern if using an always-on 3G connection while running a graphically demanding game.
 
I think it would be smart of Activision to market it as an 'essential' component of the CoD game. When you're home playing it on the console, the Vita could be used as an addition screen to show the map/stats/change inventory or something like that. Then when you're done, you can take it on the go and continue to play the same experience anywhere.
 
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Earnestly, knock off the milking.
 
My argument is that a proper Call of Duty will sell well on a handheld regardless of connectivity or cross platform play, but that the latter feature will only strengthen its position and increase its attractiveness to avid gamers.



Call of Duty is a social muliplayer experience. It requires dual analog sticks. It requires a competent online infrastructure. These features are pivotal backbones that are a basic necessity of the game and they absolutely do matter. None of these features has been present on a handheld until the Vita either.



Here's where your argument continues to break down. You're right -- Call of Duty is none of those titles. It's actually bigger. Just like it's no shocker that FIFA sells in Europe and GTA sold well on the PSP, it will be no shocker that Call of Duty will sell very well on the Vita and eclipse those titles. It's a game that has pretty much global appeal and is big in every market (barring Japan, but even there it manages to sell well).

Black Ops has sold over 25 million units world wide. Even if a Vita version only manages to capture 10-15% of that market, it's in the multiple millions of units sold range and will push the platform.

It's destined to sell ably, yes, but no Black Ops volume. That can merely be blistered by GTA V or Black Ops 2.
 
3G, at least here in Europe, is pretty damn good. I used to play SC2 via my iPhone while skipping with various bros and the additional lag was barely noticeable. Given CoD's net code it might just work.
Now battery life is an actual concern if using an always-on 3G connection while running a graphically demanding game.

You can't blanket say that 3G in Europe is great because the variation of signal is so massive. I'm in the south of England. I get great coverage at my girlfriend's house but none at my flat. I get great coverage at my mum's house but not at my office. And these are all within three miles of each other. My friends on different providers all get different results too. A 3 connection at my girlfriend's house is horrible, an O2 connection is great.

I can never leave the house and be 100% sure that I'm going to be able to access the Internet from my phone wherever I go.
 
Obviously good news for PSVita owners, but it won't push hardware.
It could potentially sell units, depending on features and whatnot. If they add obvious shit like cross platform play with PS3, stat/profile sharing, etc etc.

If Sony markets the fuck out of it and bundle it, they could be on to a winner.
 
I think it would be smart of Activision to market it as an 'essential' component of the CoD game. When you're home playing it on the console, the Vita could be used as an addition screen to show the map/stats/change inventory or something like that. Then when you're done, you can take it on the go and continue to play the same experience anywhere.

I think the problem will be that Activison will want to tie anything it does into it's Elite app, so i can't really see Vita getting any exclusive features unless maybe users sign up to pay for the premium Elite as well.

This is the app for iDevices you can look at stats and push your loadouts to the main game on the fly i think that's as much as i'm expecting for this version anything else and Acti will monetize it for sure.

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It could potentially sell units, depending on features and whatnot. If they add obvious shit like cross platform play with PS3, stat/profile sharing, etc etc.

If Sony markets the fuck out of it and bundle it, they could be on to a winner.

It's merely one game, nonetheless. A demand for a few more is called for, to "win".
 
What is your basis for this comparison? SSFIV vs UMvC3?

Ridge
Zelda
Starfox
SSFIV
MGS3D (seems to have a lot of buzz about it)

I'm sure theres more i've missed.
 
You can't blanket say that 3G in Europe is great because the variation of signal is so massive. I'm in the south of England. I get great coverage at my girlfriend's house but none at my flat. I get great coverage at my mum's house but not at my office. And these are all within three miles of each other. My friends on different providers all get different results too. A 3 connection at my girlfriend's house is horrible, an O2 connection is great.

I can never leave the house and be 100% sure that I'm going to be able to access the Internet from my phone wherever I go.

3G is utterly pointless for most people who want to use the Vita as one of its primary intentions and play online, when you travel. I spend over 4 hours a day on public transport, both bus and trains and no way in hell would I be able to play anything online for more than 3 minutes at a time without the signal going bonkers or just cutting out. I even live in a place with decent 3G coverage but it's just way too unreliable if you aren't stationary in a 3G zone. Travelling across the country is even worse.

Playing anything online while travelling, let alone fast paced FPS, forget about it.

Only place I'm ever stationary AND have time to play is at home, where the Vita / Any handheld device is pointless surrounded by big-screen TVs, consoles and a gamer PC.
 
I think this factor is being overlooked dramatically. The sticks are simply not good for shooting and fast movement. Playing Uncharted is a challenge with the way the sticks are working, and playing a FPS on it is going to be rough.

That's one game. And imagine if Vita CoD uses the gyro adjustment system similar to Uncharted. It would be fantastic for sniping.
 
Mmmmmmm.

Great news, sure, but......I doubt that a typical franchise for consoles will sell as well on an handheld. We saw the same with GTA and previous Call of Dutys.
 
Mmmmmmm.

Great news, sure, but......I doubt that a typical franchise for consoles will sell as well on an handheld. We saw the same with GTA and previous Call of Dutys.

It doesn't need to match the console version in order to sell well. The PSP GTAs sold really well despite not pushing as many units as the console GTA games.
 
Mmmmmmm.

Great news, sure, but......I doubt that a typical franchise for consoles will sell as well on an handheld. We saw the same with GTA and previous Call of Dutys.

Except the GTA PSP games were the best selling PSP game over here. And I can't recall a CoD game that most CoD fans would take seriously ever being on a handheld.

CoD on a Vita isn't going to be a #gamechanger but it'll certainly sell well if its any good.
 
Except the GTA PSP games were the best selling PSP game over here. And I can't recall a CoD game that most CoD fans would take seriously ever being on a handheld.

CoD on a Vita isn't going to be a #gamechanger but it'll certainly sell well if its any good.

Yeah it will sell good. People here forget that when GTA/GT was announced for the PSP everyone said that those 2 where saviors and that it would finally turn the tide for Sony, look what happened...
 
If you put COD4/MW2 on the Vita so I could play it anywhere... that'd be a huge temptation for me.

Only then the realities of the world set in. Barely any 3G coverage where I am. £200 for the system. Not to mention this will a Treyarch (or some other sub-par dev) game and one I'm not interested in.

One day, somehow, I need to be able to play COD4/MW2 on the go. Please!
 
Yeah it will sell good. People here forget that when GTA/GT was announced for the PSP everyone said that those 2 where saviors and that it would finally turn the tide for Sony, look what happened...

1 game hardly change the tides (barring Monster Hunter in Japan), it helps a bit though.
 
And it will be called Black Ops 2, and it will have a 3DS port.

CPP demands this, so long as it has Zombie mode (more than one map) I am in..

will be nice to see the comparision of the two games..

Had a demo of the Vita Yesterday, I like it, will wait for price drop before getting (UMvC3 is a system seller for me), so maybe Xmas time 2012 I will get it.. Or a random Impulse buy lol
 
Clarity ehh. COD is blurry as hell on HDTVs with the 600p resolution. I'll take a wait and see approach if they can hit 60 fps on native resolution of the Vita or close it'll look pretty good.

Um, that was the point I was making. You think it looks bad on a big screen, wait till you play it on a 5 inch screen. Vita's native resolution is already sub HD so the visual clarity won't improve.
 
Um, that was the point I was making. You think it looks bad on a big screen, wait till you play it on a 5 inch screen. Vita's native resolution is already sub HD so the visual clarity won't improve.
Screen size for handhelds aren't directly comparable to TVs though, you're holding the former to your face (or at arm's length anyway) and the TV's at the other end of the room. More likely it'll look worse because the CPU and GPU just aren't comparable to a console's, it may be quadcore but it's 1 GHz if I recall correctly, and this is still some of the best you'll find for a handheld device.

Already possible if you have a PC ;)

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God damn, if I was that crazy I'd at least stick with SSD drives in the computer. No way could I trust it constantly moving around with a hard drive not meant for constant movement.
 
Better then not having them.



Don't knock it till u try.

That's a main gameplay feature in many games, FIFA even takes it to the next level.

I have tried it. FIFA's backtouch is clever but I turn it off since I accidentally touch the corners which makes me shoot the ball when I don't intend to.

It's just not comfortable for me.
 
Well, Vita vs. 3DS just got interesting.

CoD Vita duking it out with Super Mario Bros. 3DS

Nah CoD Vita will be duking it out with CoD 3DS (for all we know they could be the same game just with better graphics etc for the cod version).

One has a bigger install base and better control scheme (with CCP) the other has better graphics.

The fight is on.
 
Wait... Say whaaaat?
Maybe he thinks the second analog on the Vita is for decoration?

ACTUALLY, this may be in reference to the fact the CPP adds two more shoulder buttons. That IS something of an advantage, since they're an actual set of extra buttons rather than a more nebulous touch pad.
 
Maybe he thinks the second analog on the Vita is for decoration?

ACTUALLY, this may be in reference to the fact the CPP adds two more shoulder buttons. That IS something of an advantage, since they're an actual set of extra buttons rather than a more nebulous touch pad.

Maybe, but that means non-CCP users will be severely gimped control-wise.

Unless they bundle a CCP with every 3DS copy...
 
Well Mario has been huge on handhelds a lot longer than CoD has. And that doesn't show any signs of slowing down, what with 3D Land selling so well (and that in itself being surprising as it was a 3D or psuedo-3D title)
 
Maybe, but that means non-CCP users will be severely gimped control-wise.

Unless they bundle a CCP with every 3DS copy...

No they'll just have two control schemes like with every CCP enabled games. The only issue would be online where one would have a distinct advantage over the other.
 
No they'll just have two control schemes like with every CCP enabled games. The only issue would be online where one would have a distinct advantage over the other.

And in all honesty, touch screen aiming, while not ideal, is infinitely preferable to using ABXY as an analog substitute.
 
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