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[Envelope]

But the captain really wants her on the team because of her talent.

Quite possibly,

Spoiler

sure, that wouldn't explain why she suddenly is slaughtering dozens of mecha when she's only done one on one combat before, but that's getting really nitpicky at this point.

 

[Lafiel]

You can effectively do both (see- everything Oshii has ever done ever since the beginning of time incl. Angel's Egg- the minimal dialogue being packed with meaning), but if you're only going to do 1, best make sure it's not dry and hand-holding expositionary stuff.

Hence this is why I've grown sour on Kamiyama as of late, the dialogue in everything he has directed and wrote is overwhelming dry and expostionary for better or worse, it's pretty much at it's worst in EotE at least.:/ also I'll go a pull a 7th and say his shows are also stylistically boring.

 

[NewFresh]

Solid list.

Night on the Galactic Railroad is also good.

Natsu e no Tobira is also also good, and 80s as hell.

<3

 

[darkside31337]

I just watched Castle of Cagliostro for the first time in ages and it was a delightful experience. I'd love some recommendations of more 1980s anime.

edit: I guess it came out in 1979, but you get the idea.

Touch.

The best of all Adachi works and the best anime of the 80s.

 

[Thoraxes]

Quite possibly,

Spoiler

sure, that wouldn't explain why she suddenly is slaughtering dozens of mecha when she's only done one on one combat before, but that's getting really nitpicky at this point.

I just look at it the same way I look at that stuff in Space Pirates. Nobody knows why she's miraculously good against terrorists even though she's just a school girl and only leanred about how to electronic warfare only like 2 days before a school trip in space. The main point is to just enjoy it.

 

[Infinite Justice]

A quick glance at his post history suggest either he posted in the gaming section or he had a delightful discussion about fansubbers in the One Piece thread.

After reading his post its really likely that it was the latter.

 

[hosannainexcelsis]

So the Patlabor movie special editions are being offered in a rather cheap bundle. Can our resident Oshii experts weigh in as to whether I should jump on these particular releases?

I haven't seen a couple of these like Angels Egg for example, but here's some stuff that I like or I have seen discussed frequently as being worth your time.

[snip]

This is an excellent list. I'll just add

Chie the Brat
Kimagure Orange Road (especially the movie I Want to Return to That Day)
Legend of the Galactic Heroes (most of the OVA series is from the 90s but it does start in the 80s)

 

[Envelope]

I just look at it the same way I look at that stuff in Space Pirates. Nobody knows why she's miraculously good against terrorists even though she's just a school girl and only leanred about how to electronic warfare only like 2 days before a school trip in space. The main point is to just enjoy it.

You know, I can provide another wall of text as to why Space Pirates makes sense.

 

[Neko Mimi Mode]

Touch.

The best of all Adachi works and the best anime of the 80s.

<-

 

[Instro]

Solid list.

Night on the Galactic Railroad is also good.

Natsu e no Tobira is also also good, and 80s as hell.

Haven't heard of that 2nd title before, sounds entertaining.

 

[Thoraxes]

You know, I can provide another wall of text as to why Space Pirates makes sense.

She has the right blood in her. We can just say that.

 

[Dresden]

RIP Cosmicblizzard

 

[Branduil]

What happened to cosmic?

 

[Hitokage]

icarus: I actually like the first movie, but the second movie goes way too far in self-indulgent navel gazing for me. However, I refuse to fault the TV show for not being Oshii and doing its own thing in its own way. You may not like that, but I did.

 

[7Th]

Literary quotes and references, like The Catcher in the Rye thing, being an example - in Innocence, where this is most prevalent, all of the quotes have relevance and impart insight in the particular scene & the movie at large, sound like something the characters would plausibly think about (this aspect is admittedly a tad overdone/shaky), and are explained within the context of the scene without requiring of the audience prior knowledge of the work being referenced. Although this kind of thing is done incompetently by many more creators than Kamiyama, to be fair. Oh look, we have a cover to a book in our movie! Guess you better go read it to find out what it means! DEEP! Namedrop Sartre for bonus points! But this is the kind of thing folk will lazily accuse Oshii of when it's demonstrably untrue.

You're just hating on the fact that Guilty Crown is the deepest show of the season.

 

[Haly]

It has Nietzsche AND Kafka.

How much deeper can you get?

 

[Branduil]

Oh, it looks like cosmic broke the sacred rule of animegaf in the One Piece thread.

 

[7Th]

I haven't seen a couple of these like Angels Egg for example, but here's some stuff that I like or I have seen discussed frequently as being worth your time.

Akira
Angel's Egg
Anne of Green Gables
Ashita no Joe
Dirty Pair
Gauche the Cellist
Golgo 13: The Professional
Grave of the Fireflies
Gundam is generally good, specifically the original series, Chars Counterattack, and War in the Pocket.
Kiki's Delivery Service
Macross
Nausicaa
Patalabor
Robotech
Rose of Versailles
Space Cobra
Urusei Yatsura: Beautiful Dreamer

Don't forget Chie the Brat, man.

 

[Jex]

rip cosmic

Well, it's been a couple of weeks since someone got banned I suppose.

 

[Branduil]

It has Nietzsche AND Kafka.

How much deeper can you get?

The deepest character of all time:

 

[Risette]

So the Patlabor movie special editions are being offered in a rather cheap bundle. Can our resident Oshii experts weigh in as to whether I should jump on these particular releases?

I'd get them for the storybooks and nice boxes and resealable wrap (I think?)

However, I'm pretty sure that the Hong Kong Blu-rays of the Patlabor movies are ports of the JP BDs, so an affordable Blu-ray option is available. I'll be able to confirm this soonish. Although I have watched the HK BD of the first movie myself and can give it a seal of approval -- it looks good.

I'll probably end up buying that bundle myself, regardless. I want storyboards.

 

[BluWacky]

It has Nietzsche AND Kafka.

How much deeper can you get?

Ergo Proxy has Derrida, Lacan, Husserl and Berkeley all in one room.

As statues.

 

[Jex]

Infinite Stratos has completely disappeared from MediaFactory's ordering form. Izuru Yumizuru, the author, has been removed from their archives, as well.

Reality can be adjusted.

 

[Haly]

Ergo Proxy has Derrida, Lacan, Husserl and Berkeley all in one room.

As statues.

Well I guess that makes Ergo Proxy the deepest anime OF ALL TIME.

 

[Dresden]

Ergo Proxy has Derrida, Lacan, Husserl and Berkeley all in one room.

As statues.

Just reading about it is making me feel deconstructive.

 

[Jex]

You can effectively do both (see- everything Oshii has ever done ever since the beginning of time incl. Angel's Egg- the minimal dialogue being packed with meaning), but if you're only going to do 1, best make sure it's not dry and hand-holding expositionary stuff.

Yeah, but Oshii does that as well. A number of his works have exposition dump speeches in the middle of the movie, sometimes in a way that badly affects the pacing. I'm not going to give him a free pass for that just because he does a good job of it at other points.

 

[Envelope]

Kill Me Baby 3

This episode had quite a few funny gags, and Unused Character was great, especially since

Spoiler

she's voiced by goddess Rie.

 

[Jex]

I haven't seen a couple of these like Angels Egg for example, but here's some stuff that I like or I have seen discussed frequently as being worth your time.

Akira
Angel's Egg
Anne of Green Gables
Ashita no Joe
Dirty Pair
Gauche the Cellist
Golgo 13: The Professional
Grave of the Fireflies
Gundam is generally good, specifically the original series, Chars Counterattack, and War in the Pocket.
Kiki's Delivery Service
Macross
Nausicaa
Patalabor
Robotech
Rose of Versailles
Space Cobra
Urusei Yatsura: Beautiful Dreamer

While I'm not going to put a knock against such a solid list, some of that stuff isn't technically from the 80's. Not that has anything to do with why you should watch something.

 

[Infinite Justice]

Oh, it looks like cosmic broke the sacred rule of animegaf in the One Piece thread.

Yep.

*Pours another 40*

 

[Hitokage]

That's still a far cry from "nothing but eye candy" which is needlessly dismissive and just made me think you weren't paying attention. :/

Well, considering the rest of the movie didn't work so well for me, eye candy is what I have left.

 

[Jex]

Ergo Proxy has Derrida, Lacan, Husserl and Berkeley all in one room.

As statues.

Ergo Proxy is really the best example of this trend because they take everything so far. That show references more philosophers than an Introduction to Philosophy module.

 

[Trojita]

Index Light Novel Spoilers

Spoiler

Fucking lol I knew it. Touma' Hymen Imagine Breaker is just a limiter to more powerful ability that is being sealed by it. Also the Imagine Breaker was given to Touma by God.

 

[qcf x2]

I watched Otaku no Video. It was weird and slightly depressing. But it did get me to watch Daicon III/IV which is amazing. Bring it back, Gainax*! The heroes/villains would all have to be changed due to copyright issues these days but it would be fun to see it redrawn & more fleshed out, Diebuster style (not that Diebuster was a remake).

* Wherever you've gone

 

[Dresden]

oooooooooooooooold

 

[Steroyd]

Yep.

*Pours another 40*

Now only DTL can fight the good fight in liking Guilty Crown, he lost a nakama this day.

 

[Envelope]

Index Light Novel Spoilers

Spoiler

Fucking lol I knew it. Touma' Hymen Imagine Breaker is just a limiter to more powerful ability that is being sealed by it. Also the Imagine Breaker was given to Touma by God.

How far are you in the novels?

 

[Instro]

While I'm not going to put a knock against such a solid list, some of that stuff isn't technically from the 80's. Not that has anything to do with why you should watch something.

Hey, Joe is partially 80's! But yeah there's a couple like Anne that are like 78-79 or something. I got a bit lazy.

 

[hosannainexcelsis]

Hey, Joe is partially 80's! But yeah there's a couple like Anne that are like 78-79 or something. I got a bit lazy.

Cagliostro was 1979 anyway, so you shouldn't feel bad.

 

[Trojita]

How far are you in the novels?

I was just going through spoilers.

 

[Envelope]

I was just going through spoilers.

How boring.

 

[Skidd]

So... I just watched Dead Leaves.


Anyone care the explain what did I just witness? And more importantly, is there more? (Already seen FLCL)

 

[hosannainexcelsis]

So... I just watched Dead Leaves.


Anyone care the explain what did I just witness? And more importantly, is there more? (Already seen FLCL)

If you like Hiroyuki Imaishi craziness, you should watch Gurren Lagann and Panty & Stocking.

 

[wonzo]

I watched Otaku no Video. It was weird and slightly depressing. But it did get me to watch Daicon III/IV which is amazing. Bring it back, Gainax*! The heroes/villains would all have to be changed due to copyright issues these days but it would be fun to see it redrawn & more fleshed out, Diebuster style (not that Diebuster was a remake).

* Wherever you've gone

a lot of daicon iv's greatness comes from the ownage ELO song

 

[Lafiel]

So... I just watched Dead Leaves.


Anyone care the explain what did I just witness? And more importantly, is there more? (Already seen FLCL)

You just witnessed Imaishi masturbating all over the screen.

That's basically it.

 

[Jex]

Hence this is why I've grown sour on Kamiyama as of late, the dialogue in everything he has directed and wrote is overwhelming dry and expostionary for better or worse, it's pretty much at it's worst in EotE at least.:/ also I'll go a pull a 7th and say his shows are also stylistically boring.

Well, I suppose what is and what isn't 'stylistically boring' is an open question I don't really see it. Kamiyama's direction is certainly extremely 'classical narrative cinema' that's hardly a bad thing. The vast majority of all anime TV shows are tying to aim for that kind of direction and most of them fail, badly.

I don't think I'm going to penalize a director who executes traditional film style well - that would be bizarre.

 

[Skidd]

If you like Hiroyuki Imaishi craziness, you should watch Gurren Lagann and Panty & Stocking.

Oh, already seen those as well.

You just witnessed Imaishi masturbating all over the screen.

That's basically it.

Gross, but I have no regrets.

 

[Hitokage]

Don't like the music = tasteless, forgetful, or trolling

Eh, first movie's soundtrack was better.

 

[Infinite Justice]

Index Light Novel Spoilers

Spoiler

Fucking lol I knew it. Touma' Hymen Imagine Breaker is just a limiter to more powerful ability that is being sealed by it. Also the Imagine Breaker was given to Touma by God.

Given the shit that has been going on in the series this isn't surprising at all tbh.

Now only DTL can fight the good fight in liking Guilty Crown, he lost a nakama this day.

Oh well.

 

[Jex]

Hey, Joe is partially 80's! But yeah there's a couple like Anne that are like 78-79 or something. I got a bit lazy.

From 1970 - 1971? I guess there's a big gap between that and the movies though.

 

[Hitokage]

This conversation went places.

What can I say? I've tried going through the soundtrack multiple times, but it just doesn't do much for me. Then I go listen to other Kenji Kawai work.

I mean, isn't what this conversation boils down to is that some stuff worked for you but didn't for me, and vice-versa? Sure we could go over the details more, but you and pizzaroll have already drawn such a deep line in the sand I'm not all that interested.