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You guys really think that wage list is bad? To me that doesnt look horrible at all. At Liverpool we have at least one midfielder making 100k + per week. Pepe Reina, Dirk Kuyt, Jamie Carragher and Glen Johnson probably all make 80-100k as well. Torres was. Joe Cole was on 100k/wk before we loaned him out. We brought in some affordable players like Carroll and Henderson who are around 50 or 60 per week which is a good start. Adam and Jose Enrique probably cheap as well

If you think a list where the highest earner is 70,000 p/wk is bad, you guys would get explosive diarrhea if you saw City's (and United's would have a few shockers too)


It is not about the highest earners, it is that the highest earner only gets 90k while we have total total shite paid 60k a week when they should be on minimum wage. There are 71 professionals contracted at Arsenal. 71. Jesus christ.
 
Haha, I think Olivia is ugly :P

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Not your type, sure. Ugly? Fo realz?

I have so many olivia gifs I could use to express my suprise/shock at that statement. But I am trying very hard to go one thread cycle without posting a single olivia gif. So you get a pass.

Where is spanish wrath actually? I am pretty sure his time with the avatar is up. Time for another wager me thinks. Anyone the female avatar betting type? :p

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Why would stoke even appeal that? idiots.
 
You guys really think that wage list is bad? To me that doesnt look horrible at all. At Liverpool we have at least one midfielder making 100k + per week. Pepe Reina, Dirk Kuyt, Jamie Carragher and Glen Johnson probably all make 80-100k as well. Torres was. Joe Cole was on 100k/wk before we loaned him out. We brought in some affordable players like Carroll and Henderson who are around 50 or 60 per week which is a good start

If you think a list where the highest earner is 70,000 p/wk is bad, you guys would get explosive diarrhea if you saw City's (and United's would have a few shockers too)

Milan Jovanovic. ONE HUNDRED AND TWENTY THOUSAND POUNDS PER WEEK.

Hahaha:(
 
Why are Stoke such a cunt club? I'm amazed.


stoke are fuckin pieces of shit headed by a cunt of the highest order. These fucks should be playing rugby.

You guys really think that wage list is bad? To me that doesnt look horrible at all. At Liverpool we have at least one midfielder making 100k + per week. Pepe Reina, Dirk Kuyt, Jamie Carragher and Glen Johnson probably all make 80-100k as well. Torres was. Joe Cole was on 100k/wk before we loaned him out. We brought in some affordable players like Carroll and Henderson who are around 50 or 60 per week which is a good start. Adam and Jose Enrique probably cheap as well

If you think a list where the highest earner is 70,000 p/wk is bad, you guys would get explosive diarrhea if you saw City's (and United's would have a few shockers too)

You really think van persie is worth only a few more bob than the likes of diaby and co? I wouldn't pay half these worthless tools championship money
 
Alright, you guys are making me do it, starting up a stoke FM game whenever they get the transfer update out. Will win the CL by playing terrible anti football, could finally get that worst discipline steam achievement too.
 
I did some light Google-fu and found this here website, it looks more like a placeholder website than a real one and I'm not sure how valid their numbers are but I found this list: The top 23 highest earners in Serie A.

- Ibra get's around €170.000 a week, therefore topping the list, Sneijder and Buffon deservedly follow with around €115.000

-Flamini is in 6th (huh?), Amauri in 9th (whut??), Robinho in 15th (.....)

- Christian Chivu get's as much per week as Forlan, Pato, Pirlo, Chiellini, Van Bommel and Zambrotta. WHAT THE ACTUAL FUCK?

So money's getting spent poorly everywhere you look, although I doubt that fact would comfort anyone.
 
Alright, you guys are making me do it, starting up a stoke FM game whenever they get the transfer update out. Will win the CL by playing terrible anti football, could finally get that worst discipline steam achievement too.

Football Manager is on Steam? I'm tempted to buy it. Is it awesome?
 
About pay, here is last years top earners, including sponsorships:

The 10 highest-earning footballers

1) Lionel Messi (Barcelona) - £26.9 million

2) Cristiano Ronaldo (Real Madrid) - £23.9m

3) Wayne Rooney (Manchester United) - £18m

4) Kaka (Real Madrid) - £16.7m

5) David Beckham (LA Galaxy) - £16.5m

6) Ronaldinho (Flamengo) - £15.9m
*Facepalm*

7) Carlos Tevez (Manchester City) - £13.4

8) Frank Lampard (Chelsea) - £12.3m

9) Yaya Toure (Manchester City) - £11.9m

10) Thierry Henry (New York Red Bulls) - £11.5m - Just because of the legend status?
 
Football Manager is on Steam? I'm tempted to buy it. Is it awesome?

It is very awesome and on steam. Think this years version is a bit too easy though, might just be me who have nerded it way too much and had it open more than anything else on my computer. I see it's fairly expensive on steam though, I bet you could find it cheaper in some store and just register it through steam, i got it for like 35 euros at launch (in a store) and it's 49 on steam now. :/


About pay, here is last years top earners, including sponsorships:

The 10 highest-earning footballers

1) Lionel Messi (Barcelona) - £26.9 million

2) Cristiano Ronaldo (Real Madrid) - £23.9m

3) Wayne Rooney (Manchester United) - £18m

4) Kaka (Real Madrid) - £16.7m

5) David Beckham (LA Galaxy) - £16.5m

6) Ronaldinho (Flamengo) - £15.9m
*Facepalm*

7) Carlos Tevez (Manchester City) - £13.4

8) Frank Lampard (Chelsea) - £12.3m

9) Yaya Toure (Manchester City) - £11.9m

10) Thierry Henry (New York Red Bulls) - £11.5m - Just because of the legend status?


Henry and Ronaldinho are probably fantastic for the clubs, both with shirt sales but I bet it could also get some more interest in the US with Henry playing for Red Bulls.
 
I'm weirdly hyped/optimistic about the Chelsea-Napoli game tomorrow. I know I shouldn't be but I think back to the CL game against Valencia and I think we can step it up!
 
I'm weirdly hyped/optimistic about the Chelsea-Napoli game tomorrow. I know I shouldn't be but I think back to the CL game against Valencia and I think we can step it up!

Napoli (home):

w ISA 18-09-2011 Napoli 3 : 1 AC Milan
d ISA 24-09-2011 Napoli 0 : 0 Fiorentina
w ICL 27-09-2011 Napoli 2 : 0 Villarreal
l ISA 15-10-2011 Napoli 1 : 2 Parma
d ICL 18-10-2011 Napoli 1 : 1 Bayern Munich
w ISA 26-10-2011 Napoli 2 : 0 Udinese
d ISA 19-11-2011 Napoli 0 : 0 Lazio
w ICL 22-11-2011 Napoli 2 : 1 Manchester City
d ISA 29-11-2011
Napoli 3 : 3 Juventus
w ISA 03-12-2011 Napoli 4 : 2 Lecce
l ISA 18-12-2011 Napoli 1 : 3 Roma
w ISA 21-12-2011 Napoli 6 : 1 Genoa
w ICI 12-01-2012 Napoli 2 : 1 Cesena
d ISA 16-01-2012 Napoli 1 : 1 Bologna
w ICI 25-01-2012 Napoli 2 : 0 Inter
d ISA 01-02-2012 Napoli 0 : 0 Cesena
w ISA 13-02-2012 Napoli 2 : 0 Chievo

Conclusion: If you play football, you're already dead.
 
You guys really think that wage list is bad? To me that doesnt look horrible at all. At Liverpool we have at least one midfielder making 100k + per week. Pepe Reina, Dirk Kuyt, Jamie Carragher and Glen Johnson probably all make 80-100k as well. Torres was. Joe Cole was on 100k/wk before we loaned him out. We brought in some affordable players like Carroll and Henderson who are around 50 or 60 per week which is a good start. Adam and Jose Enrique probably cheap as well

If you think a list where the highest earner is 70,000 p/wk is bad, you guys would get explosive diarrhea if you saw City's (and United's would have a few shockers too)
The problem is as mentioned, the way the wages are spread, but also the affordability.

Clubs like City and United have/make so much money it's very easy for them to pay players high wages; they don't actually pay that much more than Arsenal, United don't anyway. Arsenal don't have the same financial strength, so they need to spend the money they do have more carefully...those figures suggest they aren't doing that.

I think it's because they pay young players high wages to attract them to the club. So they pay young players who would get only £10k/£15k a week elsewhere...£40k. But then when that player makes it, his wage increases to "only" £90k a week whereas the other clubs offering £15k to start with are happy to offer those now top players above and beyond £100k.

It's an inefficient model.
 
Napoli (home):

w ISA 18-09-2011 Napoli 3 : 1 AC Milan
d ISA 24-09-2011 Napoli 0 : 0 Fiorentina
w ICL 27-09-2011 Napoli 2 : 0 Villarreal
l ISA 15-10-2011 Napoli 1 : 2 Parma
d ICL 18-10-2011 Napoli 1 : 1 Bayern Munich
w ISA 26-10-2011 Napoli 2 : 0 Udinese
d ISA 19-11-2011 Napoli 0 : 0 Lazio
w ICL 22-11-2011 Napoli 2 : 1 Manchester City
d ISA 29-11-2011
Napoli 3 : 3 Juventus
w ISA 03-12-2011 Napoli 4 : 2 Lecce
l ISA 18-12-2011 Napoli 1 : 3 Roma
w ISA 21-12-2011 Napoli 6 : 1 Genoa
w ICI 12-01-2012 Napoli 2 : 1 Cesena
d ISA 16-01-2012 Napoli 1 : 1 Bologna
w ICI 25-01-2012 Napoli 2 : 0 Inter
d ISA 01-02-2012 Napoli 0 : 0 Cesena
w ISA 13-02-2012 Napoli 2 : 0 Chievo

Conclusion: If you play football, you're already dead.

They lost to Roma at home, can't be that hard then.
 
Sir Alex Ferguson said:
There's only one thing that happens when you buy a football club, you lose money.
This man disagrees.

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Fergie says Rio is working hard with Pogba who is "unsure what to do". It's okay Salazar, we still got Tom.
 
Does he mean that Pogba is unsure whether to stay at United? Would be a bad move to leave to be honest. He'll get his chance eventually and training with top class players can only help his development. He really needs a loan move next season.
 
Does he mean that Pogba is unsure whether to stay at United? Would be a bad move to leave to be honest. He'll get his chance eventually and training with top class players can only help his development. He really needs a loan move next season.
I assume that's what he means, what else could he be unsure about. Though it would be kind of strange for Fergie to mention a player being uncertain about his future in an interview.

He's in and around the first team now, on the bench most weeks. He's changing agent to that fat Dutch bloke though who apparently is bad news. We'll see.
 
Napoli are very good at home. Probably because the away team/fans are threatened with death.

My friend who's got a season ticket in the Main Stand nearest the Away section said he's never experienced an atmosphere as hostile and horrendous as that of Napoli in the Europa League. And he's seen many an atmosphere. So it isn't just Napoli at home.

That makes Gerrard's finger to his lips even better. I'm pretty sure everyone in the stadium was aware of the hostile atmosphere, least of all Gerrard who'd been warming up on the sidelines for the first half.
 
The problem is as mentioned, the way the wages are spread, but also the affordability.

Clubs like City and United have/make so much money it's very easy for them to pay players high wages; they don't actually pay that much more than Arsenal, United don't anyway. Arsenal don't have the same financial strength, so they need to spend the money they do have more carefully...those figures suggest they aren't doing that.

I think it's because they pay young players high wages to attract them to the club. So they pay young players who would get only £10k/£15k a week elsewhere...£40k. But then when that player makes it, his wage increases to "only" £90k a week whereas the other clubs offering £15k to start with are happy to offer those now top players above and beyond £100k.

It's an inefficient model.

I thought the problem was that players who are deemed poor are making not much less than those who aren't. My point is that it's not unusual and isn't exclusive to Arsenal.

As was mentioned, we had Jovanovic earning over 100k per week and he played less than ten games last year. At City, Tevez earns 250k per week and isn't even training.

Van Persie not making that much more than, say, Almunia isn't that much of a surprise. You can't predict injuries, poor form, mental collapses, etc. and long time players at any club will earn more regardless of their performances. We have Daniel Agger, who is (IMO) one of the best center backs in the league - he keeps Jamie Carragher out of the starting XI every week. Yet he earns 20 or 30k per week less.

The numbers aren't shocking to me at all - its what I would expect from a team like Arsenal. It's not a good situation, but any top team that is underperforming will find themselves in a similar place.
 
About pay, here is last years top earners, including sponsorships:

The 10 highest-earning footballers

1) Lionel Messi (Barcelona) - £26.9 million

2) Cristiano Ronaldo (Real Madrid) - £23.9m

3) Wayne Rooney (Manchester United) - £18m

4) Kaka (Real Madrid) - £16.7m

5) David Beckham (LA Galaxy) - £16.5m

6) Ronaldinho (Flamengo) - £15.9m *Facepalm*

7) Carlos Tevez (Manchester City) - £13.4

8) Frank Lampard (Chelsea) - £12.3m

9) Yaya Toure (Manchester City) - £11.9m

10) Thierry Henry (New York Red Bulls) - £11.5m - Just because of the legend status?

You have to factor in image rights, and the power of a players brand to bring in fans and sell merch.

But yeah... needs added facepalm for Lampard imo.
 
Wow I had no idea about this:
Heiko Vogel, current manager of Basel FC, worked for many years within the youth system of FC Bayern Munich as coach of the U-10, U-13, U-15 and U-17 teams.

He was involved in the discovery, and developing, of players since the times of Lahm until the new ones like Badstuber, Contento, Alaba, etc.
 
I'm surprised Xavi and Iniesta aren't in the top 10. They must be earning close to £200k a week, Barca's wage budget is obscene. Sponsorship deals must be big too.
 
Downloaded the FM demo.

My brain can't handle this.

Under options just let the assistant manager take over training at first. That will make everything seem a lot easier at first. Then just play the game, it's really complicated to begin with but so awesome once you have actually played a few matches.
 
Under options just let the assistant manager take over training at first. That will make everything seem a lot easier at first. Then just play the game, it's really complicated to begin with but so awesome once you have actually played a few matches.

I agree with this; it's daunting at first but ease your way in, be prepared for the inevitable bad patches in November and January and enjoy.

From taking over Milan in January when they were 13th, I finished the season 3rd and won the Coppa Italia and the Champions League! I also bought Balotelli for 15m and but PSG are trying to make me spend 73m for Sirigu, the bastards.
 
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Not your type, sure. Ugly? Fo realz?

I have so many olivia gifs I could use to express my suprise/shock at that statement. But I am trying very hard to go one thread cycle without posting a single olivia gif. So you get a pass.

Where is spanish wrath actually? I am pretty sure his time with the avatar is up. Time for another wager me thinks. Anyone the female avatar betting type? :p

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Why would stoke even appeal that? idiots.[/QUOTE]

Speaking of Olivia, she has some make-up commercial here in the states. Looks fantastic, and I'm not even a Wilde fan of hers ;)


[quote="WoodenLung, post: 35318211"]Under options just let the assistant manager take over training at first. That will make everything seem a lot easier at first. Then just play the game, it's really complicated to begin with but so awesome once you have actually played a few matches.[/QUOTE]

Wow, I wish someone would have given me this advice ages ago. Maybe I will have a shot at enjoying it.
 
It's okay Salazar, we still got Tom.

I think Pog will stick around. He's not a numpty, his brother plays fairly locally, we're clearly going to use him.

Like you said, though. Out of character for Ferg. I will be surprised if Pog doesn't get a chance to rumble against Ajax.
 
I read RVP now open to discuss his contract soon. Excellent news if true and Arsenal better not let their wage cap stop them from resigning him.

Please sign RVP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
Under options just let the assistant manager take over training at first. That will make everything seem a lot easier at first. Then just play the game, it's really complicated to begin with but so awesome once you have actually played a few matches.

I agree with this; it's daunting at first but ease your way in, be prepared for the inevitable bad patches in November and January and enjoy.

From taking over Milan in January when they were 13th, I finished the season 3rd and won the Coppa Italia and the Champions League! I also bought Balotelli for 15m and but PSG are trying to make me spend 73m for Sirigu, the bastards.

Will do :D

Going to take Newcastle to the CL final and still lose because it's Newcastle.
 
About pay, here is last years top earners, including sponsorships:

The 10 highest-earning footballers

1) Lionel Messi (Barcelona) - £26.9 million

2) Cristiano Ronaldo (Real Madrid) - £23.9m

3) Wayne Rooney (Manchester United) - £18m

4) Kaka (Real Madrid) - £16.7m


5) David Beckham (LA Galaxy) - £16.5m

6) Ronaldinho (Flamengo) - £15.9m

7) Carlos Tevez (Manchester City) - £13.4

8) Frank Lampard (Chelsea) - £12.3m

9) Yaya Toure (Manchester City) - £11.9m

10) Thierry Henry (New York Red Bulls) - £11.5m- Just because of the legend status?

bwhahha, easiest 16m he's ever earned no doubt
 
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