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[Vigilant Walrus]

Mm yeah, that's why I'm not sure I want to try this. I value her friendship very highly and I know she does too. Sure it would be awesome if it works out, but the potential loss kind of scares me. Previous dating has all been with girls I wasn't that familiar with. It's something I'm going to need to think about.

This reminds me of this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T_lh5fR4DMA


Men have some biological needs that make life difficult with the opposite sex, when he is not getting "milked" regularly. It's a stupid and annoying thing that we are build this way, but we are.


I don't have the answers; But I think even if you are a calculating risk assessment guy, that it's worth giving it a shot, because if you don't - won't you always have doubts?

I mean, under some situations, there can be reasons not to do it or go for it - don't shit were you eat. This means, don't go with someone who is a roommate or a work colleague, unless your willing to loss those places if it wont work out.


All relationships are different, and sometimes it doesnt end in heartache but just a mutual understanding that it didnt worked out, but that's not even sure that it won't. We generalize to much. old people who give advice about what they would have done different always seems to be about stuff like this - "i wish i had not been scared and just gone for it".



easier said that done though, but if you think she digs it too - then maybe it really is worth a shot, because giving it a shot is what life is about. failure is inevitable, but you might beat your current happiness highscore. you might level up in your sex/relationship skills and maybe you will specalize into awesome person class x or y.

maybe you will crash so hard that you will reroll as a cyborg race, and become so strong and more awesome than your weak self. if you have a chance, compared to many of us :foreveralone: guys who are not only ugly on the inside(and the outside) then jolly be damn it - you deserve to poke that roastbeef for usss!



yay for living vigorously through other people

 

[Devolution]

I'm sure women like sex as much as men do, but the important part is: they are much more specific in terms of mate choice. Tons of guys will fuck any girl that's DTF and reasonably attractive. Most girls won't do that.

Well this has to do with how we're told to behave. Good girls only fuck while dating or fuck with higher standards in mind, lest we be called a slut. Until more people treat female sexuality with respect and positivity these kinds of attitudes with how we view sex will continue. Many people didn't understand my whole hang up with the usage of slut, well there is it. You slut shame us and we're even more likely to keep our legs shut because of the stigma.

 

[lawlohwhat]

That's what PUA bullshit is, you can be a bachelor and have casual sex without being a lying sack of deceitful shit.

PUA stuff often comes off as creepy to me. Quantifying relationship data is so cold and sterile. But I think that there are some very important pieces of information for all sexes to pick up on within the swell of dishonest bullshit that comes with it.

A lot of traditional relationships that I've witnessed have been based upon a lack of self-assurance within one or both of the partners, or a desire for ownership over them. However when taken to the other extreme, as demonstrated by bronzewolf, there can be a sense of alienation, pitting sexes against each other in some kind of ritualized game. When that happens, you lose the organic unpredictability that can make dating interesting.

While it's true that men and women are socialized differently in our society, there is obviously a large scale gradient of different personalities in a cross section of every sex. The suggestion that women are purely intuitive and emotional creatures while men are logical and rational was successfully challenged by feminist philosophers as far back as the 1800s, and I'm surprised that it's still so prevalent today.

That said, PUA philosophy is good for getting people out there to talk to a wide variety of other people to assist in their discovery and assertion of their real social desires. I believe that a healthy relationship for most people is somewhere in the middle of traditional and post-modernist casual relationships.

 

[vicissitudes]

GOD FUCKING DAMMIT. I've been juniored for years now! When will you assholes FORGET and when CAN I MAKE THREADS AGAIN? ARGHHHH

It's been years? I still remember the day that thread was made. Ahh, memories.

 

[Hot Coldman]

Dolphin.

I know the truth! I wasn't aiming for it. I was aiming for bigger, better things.

 

[mcrae]

Well this has to do with how we're told to behave. Good girls only fuck while dating or fuck with higher standards in mind, lest we be called a slut. Until more people treat female sexuality with respect and positivity these kinds of attitudes with how we view sex will continue. Many people didn't understand my whole hang up with the usage of slut, well there is it. You slut shame us and we're even more likely to keep our legs shut because of the stigma.

curious, was that you posting under timedogs account accidentally?

also i see the dog in your avatar, what is the teal cake-looking thing?


also, i've heard horrible things about you, but judging from that meetup thread, you're a cool girl, so fuck that

 

[Kabouter]

GOD FUCKING DAMMIT. I've been juniored for years now! When will you assholes FORGET and when CAN I MAKE THREADS AGAIN? ARGHHHH

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=399457 < He hasn't returned.

curious, was that you posting under timedogs account accidentally?

also i see the dog in your avatar, what is the teal cake-looking thing?


also, i've heard horrible things about you, but judging from that meetup thread, you're a cool girl, so fuck that

Devo

 

[scar tissue]

Well this has to do with how we're told to behave. Good girls only fuck while dating or fuck with higher standards in mind, lest we be called a slut. Until more people treat female sexuality with respect and positivity these kinds of attitudes with how we view sex will continue. Many people didn't understand my whole hang up with the usage of slut, well there is it. You slut shame us and we're even more likely to keep our legs shut because of the stigma.

Sorry to burst your bubble, but the root of this is primarily biological and can be observed in animals as well.
Courtship among animals is almost universally male courting for the female. As it is among humans.
Society may well be able to overcome this, but it is NOT the root of it.
Men produce an almost unlimited amount of sperm and thus don't invest many resources.
Women have a limited amount of gametes and are vulnerable for ~6 months, plus they have to care for the kid afterwards if the male bails out. The female simply has to be more choosy because she risks much, much more. Thanks to contraception and abortion, this is not the case any more, so stuff should change. In a couple of hundred years, maybe we'll be there.
Also, the reasoning can be reversed: women have it easier when it comes to sex, so when they sleep around it's not considered an achievement but just "being slutty". Men have it harder, so it's considered an achievement. Chicken <> Egg


Edit:

It's been years? I still remember the day that thread was made. Ahh, memories.

Yeah, I feel old. I seriously thought that thread was from last year. *cries*

 

[Sadetar]

All relationships are different, and sometimes it doesnt end in heartache but just a mutual understanding that it didnt worked out, but that's not even sure that it won't. We generalize to much. old people who give advice about what they would have done different always seems to be about stuff like this - "i wish i had not been scared and just gone for it".

This is true. People usually don't regret that much the things that they did, but the things that they didn't do.

That is a good thing to keep in mind, when you are thinking should you do something or not.

 

[Vigilant Walrus]

PUA stuff often comes off as creepy to me. Quantifying relationship data is so cold and sterile. But I think that there are some very important pieces of information for all sexes to pick up on within the swell of dishonest bullshit that comes with it.

A lot of traditional relationships that I've witnessed have been based upon a lack of self-assurance within one or both of the partners, or a desire for ownership over them. However when taken to the other extreme, as demonstrated by bronzewolf, there can be a sense of alienation, pitting sexes against each other in some kind of ritualized game. When that happens, you lose the organic unpredictability that can make dating interesting.

While it's true that men and women are socialized differently in our society, there is obviously a large scale gradient of different personalities in a cross section of every sex. The suggestion that women are purely intuitive and emotional creatures while men are logical and rational was successfully challenged by feminist philosophers as far back as the 1800s, and I'm surprised that it's still so prevalent today.

That said, PUA philosophy is good for getting people out there to talk to a wide variety of other people to assist in their discovery and assertion of their real social desires. I believe that a healthy relationship for most people is somewhere in the middle of traditional and post-modernist casual relationships.

I think PUA is right about what they have said about beta men - It's an important fact that men have ruined relationships by trying to please their women. even with self respect intact, trying to be a good person, is not what they want. or at least its not what makes them wet.

and that is a big distinguishment, because most men grow up thinking that being a good person will get you far. only until some poor dudes (regardless of social status, quality, looks, whatever) gets cheated on, by someone who gets to fuck his girl, just because he treats her indifferently/like shit/not caring and that somehow makes her head spin, or make him become perceived as awesome. Which, undeniable is completely fucking retarded.


In fact I see it now - Lots of men are suffering because women are using them as emotional train wrecks - they really want to fuck her, but she puts them off like a complete asshole or gives them the wrong idea, and they are baggage for years, being reduced to a womans version of santas little helpers.

It's mens own fault for being so fucking visual - fuck us all and our stupidity. But the dumbfuck logic of women is a train wreck as well. I hate the fact that it works. That I have seen it work, on women who are highly educated, good looking and are not damaged or desperate or whores or anything.

 

[Combine]

Not really. Women like sex as much as men, sometimes even more. If they want to sleep with you, they'll sleep with you without you having to commit a litany of sneaky and sketchy moves on them.

Getting casual sex isn't about being sneaky, it's about being tasteful.

Thanks for that answer. Posting to also make sure it didn't get lost at the bottom of the last page.

Admittedly I am clueless about casual sex of course, so I'm often trying to figure out why so much headache seems to occur because of it. If that's because people are not being honest or something else.

 

[Cyan]

Devo

Are we not men?

 

[scar tissue]

I hate the fact that it works. That I have seen it work, on women who are highly educated, good looking and are not damaged or desperate or whores or anything.

This x1000
I really wish someone had told me how shit goes down among men and women while I was a kid/teenager. I was raised with the idea that "if you are nice to women, they will like you".
Yeah right. F' you, mom.

 

[Vigilant Walrus]

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=399457 < He hasn't returned.

But...

I am not a good person by any stretch of the imagination. I simply thought it was topic that would be interesting. Sometimes my brain can't distinguish between appropriate memes like pedobear and all those things, and then things that cross the line. It was done in a weak fashion.
But I really try to be a good and passionate poster. That's true!

At least I am not a Junior Junior member like that space blame guy.

 

[FallingEdge]

Thanks for that answer. Posting to also make sure it didn't get lost at the bottom of the last page.

Admittedly I am clueless about casual sex of course, so I'm often trying to figure out why so much headache seems to occur because of it. If that's because people are not being honest or something else.

Casual sex can start off as just being casual. Then someone starts developing feelings for the other. In addition to that, it could be between two friends, co workers, neighbors, etc. Emotions start to play a bigger role as time goes on.

 

[Combine]

Granted, I'm all in favor of teaching wimpy men like myself (while I can't say for sure, I could easily see an expert manipulative person taking easily advantage of me and my inexperience) how to become better people by being more assertive and having our own opinions so we're not always "yes dear" and thus, doormats.

I guess it's a fine line to walk in that case, trying to teach men to be more assertive without them becoming over-egotistical or jerks.

Casual sex can start off as just being casual. Then someone starts developing feelings for the other. In addition to that, it could be between two friends, co workers, neighbors, etc. Emotions start to play a bigger role as time goes on.

Yeah, I think I see the picture, though it's tough for me to relate to it since I've never had feelings towards another person before of any kind whatsoever. From the "generalization" of casual sex that I've gotten is more like strangers who met at a bar sort of deal.

 

[Sadetar]

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=399457 < He hasn't returned.

Thank you darling. I am pretty sure I couldn't have live without that information.

Now every time I read anything he wrote, I will be thinking of that thread. Hilarious.

 

[PflargBlarg]

curious, was that you posting under timedogs account accidentally?

also i see the dog in your avatar, what is the teal cake-looking thing?


also, i've heard horrible things about you, but judging from that meetup thread, you're a cool girl, so fuck that

It's a Devo hat.

This reminds me of this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T_lh5fR4DMA


Men have some biological needs that make life difficult with the opposite sex, when he is not getting "milked" regularly. It's a stupid and annoying thing that we are build this way, but we are.


I don't have the answers; But I think even if you are a calculating risk assessment guy, that it's worth giving it a shot, because if you don't - won't you always have doubts?

I mean, under some situations, there can be reasons not to do it or go for it - don't shit were you eat. This means, don't go with someone who is a roommate or a work colleague, unless your willing to loss those places if it wont work out.


All relationships are different, and sometimes it doesnt end in heartache but just a mutual understanding that it didnt worked out, but that's not even sure that it won't. We generalize to much. old people who give advice about what they would have done different always seems to be about stuff like this - "i wish i had not been scared and just gone for it".



easier said that done though, but if you think she digs it too - then maybe it really is worth a shot, because giving it a shot is what life is about. failure is inevitable, but you might beat your current happiness highscore. you might level up in your sex/relationship skills and maybe you will specalize into awesome person class x or y.

maybe you will crash so hard that you will reroll as a cyborg race, and become so strong and more awesome than your weak self. if you have a chance, compared to many of us :foreveralone: guys who are not only ugly on the inside(and the outside) then jolly be damn it - you deserve to poke that roastbeef for usss!



yay for living vigorously through other people

I've watched that video before and I know what he's getting at, but sexual attraction doesn't mean you can't be friends. It makes it more difficult though. As long as you're not in the friendship under false pretences, trying to slyly sneak your way into her pants through friendship, it's alright.

I'm just going to check her vibe with me in the next couple times I see her and go from there. I promise that if I feel anything from her I'll go for the date

 

[Devolution]

curious, was that you posting under timedogs account accidentally?

also i see the dog in your avatar, what is the teal cake-looking thing?


also, i've heard horrible things about you, but judging from that meetup thread, you're a cool girl, so fuck that

Others have mentioned the hat but lol at the bolded. Like what?

 

[Hot Coldman]

But...

I am not a good person by any stretch of the imagination. I simply thought it was topic that would be interesting. Sometimes my brain can't distinguish between appropriate memes like pedobear and all those things, and then things that cross the line. It was done in a weak fashion.
But I really try to be a good and passionate poster. That's true!

At least I am not a Junior Junior member like that space blame guy.

Chill out duder, it was a fucking hilarious thread, I was just having some fun. I haven't seen you post in aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaages and couldn't resist, sorry for being a douche :lol

 

[vicissitudes]

At least I am not a Junior Junior member like that space blame guy.

blame space can make threads dude.

 

[Vigilant Walrus]

This x1000
I really wish someone had told me how shit goes down among men and women while I was a kid/teenager. I was raised with the idea that "if you are nice to women, they will like you".
Yeah right. F' you, mom.

Well, my mom actually told me how it was, but I didn't listen. Some of the PUA blogs lists guys raised by single moms = beta men, because they havent had a father who could show them what a real man is about.




I think no smart person would deny that a person is truly confident in himself, who is really a person worth hanging out with, would not need to be superfical, shallow, arrogant, self absorbed or better-knowing than other people - It wouldn't cross such a persons mind.

But what happens out on bars and clubs, is that stereotype images, insecurities, people wanting to fit in, people unsure of themselves hiding behind makeup and dress shirts and small mini skirts and expensive cologne, that people seem to be drawn to these types of people who need to boost themselves with their bullshit.

It's true for a lot of good guys as well. Because even most good guys here, who knows a lot about politics, history, science, philosophy, games, movies, books, culture, travelling - worthwhile that is legit - they too want some girl who looks visually appealing to them. every single of us, could nail a 3/10. ofc. that would not be the issue.

so it goes both ways.
we want the attractive ones to acknowledge that you can be confident and "rest in yourself" - not by cockblocking "competitions" or talking about yourself or how great you are.

but that seems to be what gets them wet.


how far will you get if you keep letting her talk about her life? in a club she wont give two shits about you being a good listener or if you save wild kittens in your spare time. fuck you. your not a real man. say something witty instead, that combined with alcohol consumption will hopefully make her laugh.



If I sound bitter, that's because I am. I think I need some water. so dizzy! but good thread. guys you are doing good

 

[Sadetar]

Not game playing - I'm average at best. What that pic doesn't show is: I'm tall (5'10 or just over), clumsy and a bit overweight with somewhat small boobs and chunky legs... hardly the Gaf-ideal. I dye my hair crazy colors to give me a bit of an edge but you know what, I don't NEED TO PLAY GAMES and I like to think that's because I'm open and honest (actually this post is probably too honest for a bloody internet forum) where it counts.

Don't be bitter and stop generalizing! I don't mean that to sound mean by the way it was what my original post was intending to say.

Damn girl, I like you already. You have awesome attitude dear.

And as a sidenote, I am actually quite jealous about your height to be honest. I know girls with your height and they use 4-6 inch high heels, and don't give a damn that they are taller than their husbands are (even without the heels). You just need to rock your height and be happy about it. No need to make the fact that you are tall sounds bad.

At least you seem to have brilliant personality (based on the little information I have) and I am sure you are gorgeous.

 

[scar tissue]

Others have mentioned the hat but lol at the bolded. Like what?

Seems like you're the new Dragona. Champion of women's rights and political correctness, feared and revered alike.
Although I respect you, I'm pretty glad you're not a mod (and Dragona isn't any more, either) - I'd likely be perm'd already.

 

[Vigilant Walrus]

I've watched that video before and I know what he's getting at, but sexual attraction doesn't mean you can't be friends. It makes it more difficult though. As long as you're not in the friendship under false pretences, trying to slyly sneak your way into her pants through friendship, it's alright.

I'm just going to check her vibe with me in the next couple times I see her and go from there. I promise that if I feel anything from her I'll go for the date

That is true. What men needs to do to empower themselves is to either move on, or simply engage. I wish I knew not to have wasted years being passive in the past. That was such a waste.

Chill out duder, it was a fucking hilarious thread, I was just having some fun. I haven't seen you post in aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaages and couldn't resist, sorry for being a douche :lol

Just joking. I take it as a big compliment. getting nerfed is life, but its nice that people remember the day you died

blame space can make threads dude.

FFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU

 

[scar tissue]

FFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU

I'm a perma junior too, for some hateful stuff I said. Wear your banner of shame with pride.

 

[Chinner]

ok internet i will ask you a question. im currently meant to meet up with the girl sometime and the current plan is to come to mine to watch a movie. should I keep it that way or suggest we go out to eat? or leave that for next time?

or should I just accept my inevitable fate of loneliness and mediocrity?

 

[Karkador]

It's like they cut the hydra's head and two more grew back.

 

[scar tissue]

ok internet i will ask you a question. im currently meant to meet up with the girl sometime and the current plan is to come to mine to watch a movie. should I keep it that way or suggest we go out to eat? or leave that for next time?

or should I just accept my inevitable fate of loneliness and mediocrity?

First date should be on neutral ground, I think? Go out for coffee.
Just don't go to the cinema and you'll be fine. Movies at your place is a good second or third date.
And you can still be lonely and mediocre later on. Now, you must date like you've never dated before. Go forth and fuck, son.

 

[Jackben]

ok internet i will ask you a question. im currently meant to meet up with the girl sometime and the current plan is to come to mine to watch a movie. should I keep it that way or suggest we go out to eat? or leave that for next time?

or should I just accept my inevitable fate of loneliness and mediocrity?

If you're confident in your ability and know how, I would cook some food. Women love a guy that can cook. Otherwise I don't see the harm in eating out.

Heheh.

But yeah I don't see the harm in asking if she'd like to get a bite to eat beforehand or you could always order in something to eat during the film. What scar tissue says depends on how well you know her already so we'd need some more context to judge on that.

But if you're both hungry and willing I see no reason why not too. Try and keep it casual and fun if it's one of your first time's out though.

 

[vicissitudes]

ok internet i will ask you a question. im currently meant to meet up with the girl sometime and the current plan is to come to mine to watch a movie. should I keep it that way or suggest we go out to eat? or leave that for next time?

or should I just accept my inevitable fate of loneliness and mediocrity?

Coming over and watching a movie = greater chance of intimacy so I would go with that one.

 

[Chinner]

Internet...?

 

[Sadetar]

ok internet i will ask you a question. im currently meant to meet up with the girl sometime and the current plan is to come to mine to watch a movie. should I keep it that way or suggest we go out to eat? or leave that for next time?

or should I just accept my inevitable fate of loneliness and mediocrity?

Aww. Poor babe. I am sure you are absolutely adorable and just need a bit more self confidence, cause you deserve it.

I think watching a movie at your place is a good way to go. I know some people don't agree, but if your appartment is neat, I see no reason why not. Easier to talk and concentrade to each other than if you would go out. Also snuggling is nicer inside than out of public. Just make sure you have some nice things to snack. Even better if you know what she prefers... Some want carrots and nuts, some prefer chips and candies... Or you can do something small yourself to impress her. Ah, the possibilities.

 

[Jackben]

Also not sure how you wear your hair these days Chin, but that faux-hawk you used to do was awesome so you could always stick with that for maximum impressiveness.

Movie at your place is neigh impossible to mess up and full of possibilities. Just don't watch Schiendlers List.

 

[Chinner]

Also not sure how you wear your hair these days Chin, but that faux-hawk you used to do was awesome so you could always stick with that for maximum impressiveness.

Movie at your place is neigh impossible to mess up and full of possibilities. Just don't watch Schiendlers List.

how about the pianist ?

 

[jasonng]

There is some pretty disgusting shit out there. Ive seen guys on "forums-that-shall-not- be-mentioned" posting intimate pictures of themselves having threesomes, writing stuff on naked girls and pretty much ego-tripping posting pictures of their "trophies".

I absolutely do not tolerate that kind of behaviour. Needless to say those things are meant to be private.

I may be into a degree of seduction, but not all of us are shameless assholes. I am an asshole, with a heart at least. Morals and ethics.

What I offer when I post my stories/experiences, is insight, for you guys to get an idea about what its like, and prepare you for those who may come trying to break your turf. If I unintentionally promoted PUA material, then I apologise. A large pile of it is shit anyway.

I'm with you on that. The PUA stuff I've been exposed to weren't so much to do with any form of manipulation as it was more in a shift in your mentality with the dating world. That's why I'm not particularly against the PUA community since it at least got guys off their feet. As long as you put yourself out there, you should be proud. All those "advanced techniques" they taught were really just minor things when really it boils down to being confident and not being afraid of rejection. I understand the hate for PUA gets because they teach how to be a certain kind of man, in which many cases it's not you. It was common sense to me to not be someone I'm not so it wasn't a problem for me. Rather instead, guys should just take these lessons and learn to apply it to yourself.

To be more on topic, I'm going to be spending time with this girl from Texas since it's going to be beautiful tomorrow. I've noticed that my last few dates have been during the day and I've been enjoying them. Something about having daylight seems to make a girl more relaxed and lighthearted.

 

[Jackben]

how about the pianist ?

She'll just fall in love with Adrian Brody and you'll be shit out of duck. Don't pick Grindhouse either.

 

[Chinner]

~only in death are we truly free~

 

[Timedog]

I feel like fashion advice is really gonna have to depend on your target audience, cause girl's I would probably be turned off by a faux hawk.

I bet hobo with a shotgun would be a sweet-ass date movie, depending on the girl. I'd bet Chinner wants to date a girl that could laugh with him at Hobo with a shotgun.

 

[~Kinggi~]

ok internet i will ask you a question. im currently meant to meet up with the girl sometime and the current plan is to come to mine to watch a movie. should I keep it that way or suggest we go out to eat? or leave that for next time?

or should I just accept my inevitable fate of loneliness and mediocrity?

We could be loneliness bros, it would be wonderful times.

Anyway I hope you have success. Don't push things if you feel like she isnt into it. A first date at your place watching a movie seems a little fast.

 

[Truth101]

This isn't really a relationship problem but...
I have an extremely good friend, she broke up with her high-school boyfriend a year or so ago, it wasn't a healthy thing at all, and is in a new "relationship".

Long story short while I was interested in her in the past, and she knows it, I'm not anymore.

Lately though whenever we wind up at the same party she'll grab me and start dancing on me.... It's gotten to were she's started giving me lap-dances too.
Even if her boyfriend is there....

It's a bit annoying when I have girls coming up to me telling me that we're such a cute couple...I just don't know what to do really, I'm not interested in her. The thing is I'm not good with any sort of relationship; friend, family, ect... so as I said I'm a bit lost.

 

[Jackben]

I feel like fashion advice is really gonna have to depend on your target audience, cause girl's I would probably be turned off by a faux hawk.

We ain't talking Walmart employees you chat up while buyin pizza ingredients here Timedog. But it's true, looks are subjective.

 

[Door2Dawn]

Well, my mom actually told me how it was, but I didn't listen. Some of the PUA blogs lists guys raised by single moms = beta men, because they havent had a father who could show them what a real man is about.




I think no smart person would deny that a person is truly confident in himself, who is really a person worth hanging out with, would not need to be superfical, shallow, arrogant, self absorbed or better-knowing than other people - It wouldn't cross such a persons mind.

But what happens out on bars and clubs, is that stereotype images, insecurities, people wanting to fit in, people unsure of themselves hiding behind makeup and dress shirts and small mini skirts and expensive cologne, that people seem to be drawn to these types of people who need to boost themselves with their bullshit.

It's true for a lot of good guys as well. Because even most good guys here, who knows a lot about politics, history, science, philosophy, games, movies, books, culture, travelling - worthwhile that is legit - they too want some girl who looks visually appealing to them. every single of us, could nail a 3/10. ofc. that would not be the issue.

so it goes both ways.
we want the attractive ones to acknowledge that you can be confident and "rest in yourself" - not by cockblocking "competitions" or talking about yourself or how great you are.

but that seems to be what gets them wet.


how far will you get if you keep letting her talk about her life? in a club she wont give two shits about you being a good listener or if you save wild kittens in your spare time. fuck you. your not a real man. say something witty instead, that combined with alcohol consumption will hopefully make her laugh.



If I sound bitter, that's because I am. I think I need some water. so dizzy! but good thread. guys you are doing good

Wow. I think you're over thinking things a little bit lol.

 

[Chinner]

make it stop make it stop oh god

 

[jasonng]

This isn't really a relationship problem but...
I have an extremely good friend, she broke up with her high-school boyfriend a year or so ago, it wasn't a healthy thing at all, and is in a new "relationship".

Long story short while I was interested in her in the past, and she knows it, I'm not anymore.

Lately though whenever we wind up at the same party she'll grab me and start dancing on me.... It's gotten to were she's started giving me lap-dances too.
Even if her boyfriend is there....

It's a bit annoying when I have girls coming up to me telling me that we're such a cute couple...I just don't know what to do really, I'm not interested in her. The thing is I'm not good with any sort of relationship; friend, family, ect... so as I said I'm a bit lost.

If you're not interested in her, tell her to hop off. Done. I'm not sure what the problem is here.

 

[scar tissue]

A first date at your place watching a movie seems a little fast.

Yeah, I think so too.

Chinner, did you meet her online or do you already know her IRL?

Edit: okay, you know her. I'd say a date at your place is fine, if a bit bold.

 

[Timedog]

We ain't talking Walmart employees you chat up while buyin pizza ingredients here Timedog. But it's true, looks are subjective.

Damn, sick burn! I mean, it is true that if you're not into faux hawk's, you lack class. I mean, cause that totally makes sense and stuff.

 

[AdventureRacing]

Damn girl, I like you already. You have awesome attitude dear.

And as a sidenote, I am actually quite jealous about your height to be honest. I know girls with your height and they use 4-6 inch high heels, and don't give a damn that they are taller than their husbands are (even without the heels). You just need to rock your height and be happy about it. No need to make the fact that you are tall sounds bad.

At least you seem to have brilliant personality (based on the little information I have) and I am sure you are gorgeous.

There is a nurse i work with who is like 6'2 or something. It feels kinda weird being around a women who is taller than me (haven't really experienced that before) but she is still really attractive.

Height can be a great thing if you use it right.

Yeah, I think so too.

Chinner, did you meet her online or do you already know her IRL?

Edit: okay, you know her. I'd say a date at your place is fine, if a bit bold.

I don't think it's too fast at all. You can meet up at your place and still keep it casual. As long as you don't try and force things i don't see a problem.

 

[Chinner]

Yeah, I think so too.

Chinner, did you meet her online or do you already know her IRL?

Edit: okay, you know her. I'd say a date at your place is fine, if a bit bold.

whats more apprippiate? I'm open for suggestions.

 

[Devolution]

I think the only haircut I'm really turned off by is a bowl cut (and similar types) and Chigurh really didn't help my opinion of them.