Dating-Age |OT3| Positivity, Confidence, and Not Being a "Nice" Guy

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Height can be a great thing if you use it right.
Yeah, tall girls are HOT. I'm pretty sure I wouldn't be saying that if I wasn't tall myself, tho.

I don't think it's too fast at all. You can meet up at your place and still keep it casual. As long as you don't try and force things i don't see a problem.
Well, if you don't know her IRL, I'd say it's too damn creepy to meet up at your place immediately. Also, you don't want her knowing your adress in case she turns out to be crazy.

whats more apprippiate? I'm open for suggestions.
I'm the last guy who can give out any practical advice, but I believe the old coffee date is always appropriate.
But as I said, if you casually know her already, go ahead and invite her to your place.
 
Not really a dating question so much as a general being sociable-and-confident question. Co-worker asked me to have dinner with her and her boyfriend at their place. (The premise is that they're moving soon and I'm looking to move too, so I'll be looking to see if I might want their current place.) I know her somewhat and don't know him at all, so I'm worried about my general lack of conversational skills and don't really know what to talk about besides the apartment. Also, should I bring something, like drinks or desert? I have no idea, it's not like a formal dinner date.
 
Not really a dating question so much as a general being sociable-and-confident question. Co-worker asked me to have dinner with her and her boyfriend at their place. (The premise is that they're moving soon and I'm looking to move too, so I'll be looking to see if I might want their current place.) I know her somewhat and don't know him at all, so I'm worried about my general lack of conversational skills and don't really know what to talk about besides the apartment. Also, should I bring something, like drinks or desert? I have no idea, it's not like a formal dinner date.
It would be polite of you to bring something like those drinks or desert that you mentioned.

And don't worry it too much. If you want to keep it save, you can talk about the awesome dinner, the appartment, the area they live in, neighbours they have, good movies...

There is a nurse i work with who is like 6'2 or something. It feels kinda weird being around a women who is taller than me (haven't really experienced that before) but she is still really attractive.

Height can be a great thing if you use it right.
Yeah, tall girls are HOT. I'm pretty sure I wouldn't be saying that if I wasn't tall myself, tho.
That is exactly what I meant. Every taller woman I know are seriously striking gorgeous. I am quite fine with my height, but I wouldn't mind couple extra inches either.
 
Not really a dating question so much as a general being sociable-and-confident question. Co-worker asked me to have dinner with her and her boyfriend at their place. (The premise is that they're moving soon and I'm looking to move too, so I'll be looking to see if I might want their current place.) I know her somewhat and don't know him at all, so I'm worried about my general lack of conversational skills and don't really know what to talk about besides the apartment. Also, should I bring something, like drinks or desert? I have no idea, it's not like a formal dinner date.
Yeah, definitely bring something. Wine sounds good, I'd say.
If you lack conversational skills, prepare.
Make a written list of stuff you can casually talk about. This might help you in the future as well.
 
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I'm a perma junior too, for some hateful stuff I said. Wear your banner of shame with pride.

good to know mate:)




i saw this gif and thought of this thread:

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Damn, sick burn! I mean, it is true that if you're not into faux hawk's, you lack class. I mean, cause that totally makes sense and stuff.
I was kidding man. If you're not into faux hawks it's all good but some people can rock that shit casual and look nice. Love and peace (time) dawg.
 
So uhhh, my question kind of got lost in the BronzeWolf shuffle earlier, and I only got 2 opinions out of the regulars in here....I'll type the short version....

That girl in my calculus class that that other guy basically cockblocked me from might not be into that guy after all. He's flirting with her like no other but she's not really responding much to it. I'm not sure if she's shy or actually thinks he's a douchebag. Should I try to go for it when the guy isn't around or not?
 
So uhhh, my question kind of got lost in the BronzeWolf shuffle earlier, and I only got 2 opinions out of the regulars in here....I'll type the short version....

That girl in my calculus class that that other guy basically cockblocked me from might not be into that guy after all. He's flirting with her like no other but she's not really responding much to it. I'm not sure if she's shy or actually thinks he's a douchebag. Should I try to go for it when the guy isn't around or not?
Don't ask us this kind of question! It makes it seem like you're unsure of yourself, which may not project positively on to the girl. Just do it, you really have nothing to lose! :)

Good luck, I hope it works out for you.
 
So uhhh, my question kind of got lost in the BronzeWolf shuffle earlier, and I only got 2 opinions out of the regulars in here....I'll type the short version....

That girl in my calculus class that that other guy basically cockblocked me from might not be into that guy after all. He's flirting with her like no other but she's not really responding much to it. I'm not sure if she's shy or actually thinks he's a douchebag. Should I try to go for it when the guy isn't around or not?
Oh, I remember that cockbloking event very well.

I would say that if the girl isn't responding as in flirting back, smiling or laughing, you could make your move when the lad isn't around.

You have basicly nothing to lose and if the girl doesn't seem too excited about him, perhaps she just isn't that fond of him. Also if she is seriously a shy girl, she might find it a bit offending, if the other lad is flirting too much and giving her too much public attention.
 
Don't ask us this kind of question! It makes it seem like you're unsure of yourself, which may not project positively on to the girl. Just do it, you really have nothing to lose! :)

Good luck, I hope it works out for you.

To be fair, couldn't that be said about this entire thread?

Oh, I remember that cockbloking event very well.

I would say that if the girl isn't responding as in flirting back, smiling or laughing, you could make your move when the lad isn't around.

You have basicly nothing to lose and if the girl doesn't seem too excited about him, perhaps she just isn't that fond of him. Also if she is seriously a shy girl, she might find it a bit offending, if the other lad is flirting too much and giving her too much public attention.

She is sort of responding, but it's kind of "Hahaha......Greeeeat...." or "Hahahaha....I don't know what to say" I mean like after class today he drops a note in her hands and she's like "Haha, thanks." I didn't see her read it though.
 
She is sort of responding, but it's kind of "Hahaha......Greeeeat...." or "Hahahaha....I don't know what to say" I mean like after class today he drops a note in her hands and she's like "Haha, thanks." I didn't see her read it though.
Well, follow the situation a day or two and if it seems she is responding because she is only being polite and not that interested about him, go for it.
 
Well, follow the situation a day or two and if it seems she is responding because she is only being polite and not that interested about him, go for it.

I have been already, I'll be making the decision tomorrow most likely, although it's entirely possible the guy won't be there. He did skip on Tuesday (Tuesday/Thursday the class is longer).
 
Hoping to get Sadetar's opinion on my situation.


A "friend" pulled a middle school move and told a girl that I was going to ask he out. He asked me what I thought about her one day when he saw me talking to her. I told him she was cute and I was planning on making a move soon. Today I found out that they are friends.

Today, I tried to talk to her after class and she acted differently, instead of how she usually acted toward me. She used to actually hold a conversation with me, but today she responded with one-word answers and then walked in front of me. She was acting like she was going to be late to a class, walking faster than she would normally with me. I don't know her schedule so I'm not sure if she was going to be late or not.

I'm still going to talk to her again tomorrow and see what she is doing this weekend. But is this normal for girls who were really shy at one point in their lives? She recently became more outgoing and I'm just wondering if this is a byproduct of her old style.

Yes, I'm over-thinking things, but its what I do.
 
Hoping to get Sadetar's opinion on my situation.
Awwwwwwwwwww. ^__^

A "friend" pulled a middle school move and told a girl that I was going to ask he out. He asked me what I thought about her one day when he saw me talking to her. I told him she was cute and I was planning on making a move soon. Today I found out that they are friends.

Today, I tried to talk to her after class and she acted differently, instead of how she usually acted toward me. She used to actually hold a conversation with me, but today she responded with one-word answers and then walked in front of me. She was acting like she was going to be late to a class, walking faster than she would normally with me. I don't know her schedule so I'm not sure if she was going to be late or not.

I'm still going to talk to her again tomorrow and see what she is doing this weekend. But is this normal for girls who were really shy at one point in their lives? She recently became more outgoing and I'm just wondering if this is a byproduct of her old style.

Yes, I'm over-thinking things, but its what I do.
Well, I am not with any standards shy myself, but I have some extremely shy friends (or at least they used to be shy, now not so much so anymore).

She might have been busy like you said yourself. Also if she has been shy, she might be a bit lost what to do or think in this situation so she might just feel a bit unsecure how to be around you anymore, now when she knows you think something of her.

Also it is possible, that she things you are nice, but not attractive or sexy. Or she might not even think so, but she has been your friend for so long, she haven't never really thought you as attractive or sexy even if she could start to think that way, if given some time and good reasons.

She might also be thinking you just as a friend and is hoping you don't never ask anything date related.

But I would still say that it is totally normal for a shy girl to act like that. Especially if she isn't that old. I would courage you to talk to her and ask what she is up to and does she has time to go on a date with you some day.
 
Awwwwwwwwwww. ^__^


Well, I am not with any standards shy myself, but I have some extremely shy friends (or at least they used to be shy, now not so much so anymore).

She might have been busy like you said yourself. Also if she has been shy, she might be a bit lost what to do or think in this situation so she might just feel a bit unsecure how to be around you anymore, now when she knows you think something of her.

Also it is possible, that she things you are nice, but not attractive or sexy. Or she might not even think so, but she has been your friend for so long, she haven't never really thought you as attractive or sexy even if she could start to think that way, if given some time and good reasons.

She might also be thinking you just as a friend and is hoping you don't never ask anything date related.

But I would still say that it is totally normal for a shy girl to act like that. Especially if she isn't that old. I would courage you to talk to her and ask what she is up to and does she has time to go on a date with you some day.



Lol, I needed the opinion of someone who was going to give an answer I wanted to hear.

I haven't been "friends" with her long. I started talking to her about a week ago because she started playing eye-tag with me. I should have made move then but I didn't because I wanted to make sure I was over my ex (or at least this is what I want to believe).
 
Lol, I needed the opinion of someone who was going to give an answer I wanted to hear.

I haven't been "friends" with her long. I started talking to her about a week ago because she started playing eye-tag with me. I should have made move then but I didn't because I wanted to make sure I was over my ex (or at least this is what I want to believe).
Hahah. Just ask her out.

If she started playing eye-tag with you, you shouldn't have anything to worry about.
 
Hoping to get Sadetar's opinion on my situation.


A "friend" pulled a middle school move and told a girl that I was going to ask he out. He asked me what I thought about her one day when he saw me talking to her. I told him she was cute and I was planning on making a move soon. Today I found out that they are friends.

Today, I tried to talk to her after class and she acted differently, instead of how she usually acted toward me. She used to actually hold a conversation with me, but today she responded with one-word answers and then walked in front of me. She was acting like she was going to be late to a class, walking faster than she would normally with me. I don't know her schedule so I'm not sure if she was going to be late or not.

I'm still going to talk to her again tomorrow and see what she is doing this weekend. But is this normal for girls who were really shy at one point in their lives? She recently became more outgoing and I'm just wondering if this is a byproduct of her old style.

Yes, I'm over-thinking things, but its what I do.
TBH it sounds like a bad sign. If she found out from the friend that you were gonna ask her out and she seems like she's ignoring you, then I'd say that she probably isn't interested and is trying to avoid an awkward situation. If she really was into it, even if she was shy, I doubt she'd flat out ignore you.

I'd advise against asking her out right away. Just act like you normally would and see how she acts now that your friend spilled the beans and if she seems uncomfortable around you, then I'd say she's not interested. If she is interested, but just shy, she'll eventually wonder why you're not making the move and she'll try to be around you more.

But with the information given, it sounds like she thought of you as a friend only.
 
Hahah. Just ask her out.

If she started playing eye-tag with you, you shouldn't have anything to worry about.

Maybe, I guess I'll see how she reacts tomorrow and do it if she doesn't act the same way.


TBH it sounds like a bad sign. If she found out from the friend that you were gonna ask her out and she seems like she's ignoring you, then I'd say that she probably isn't interested and is trying to avoid an awkward situation. If she really was into it, even if she was shy, I doubt she'd flat out ignore you.

I'd advise against asking her out right away. Just act like you normally would and see how she acts now that your friend spilled the beans and if she seems uncomfortable around you, then I'd say she's not interested. If she is interested, but just shy, she'll eventually wonder why you're not making the move and she'll try to be around you more.

But with the information given, it sounds like she thought of you as a friend only.

Maybe, but I feel like I'm running out of time to make a move if I want to. I would've asked her out last week but I explained that earlier.
 
TBH it sounds like a bad sign. If she found out from the friend that you were gonna ask her out and she seems like she's ignoring you, then I'd say that she probably isn't interested and is trying to avoid an awkward situation. If she really was into it, even if she was shy, I doubt she'd flat out ignore you.

I'd advise against asking her out right away. Just act like you normally would and see how she acts now that your friend spilled the beans and if she seems uncomfortable around you, then I'd say she's not interested. If she is interested, but just shy, she'll eventually wonder why you're not making the move and she'll try to be around you more.

But with the information given, it sounds like she thought of you as a friend only.
MutantCyborg, that was a shy girl's advice right there (if I remember right).

I am not sure did she notice the eye-tag game mention though. With that in mind, I would just say that go for it. You seriously have nothing to lose. If you want, you can follow the situation some time like she advices you to do, but I personally wouldn't. If I would know a lad have some interested in me, and then wouldn't ask, I would just see him as a pussy.
 
Well, it's hard to tell what the "eye-tag" means. Could be she was checking you out. But it could also be that she was checking to see if you're checking her out. Hard to say. :/

And what makes you say you're running out of time? If she really likes you she's not gonna reject you cause you waited a few more days. And if she's shy, she probably would appreciate a guy who took his time. At least, that's how I was.

If she keeps being short and evasive then I really doubt she's intersted, but you probably have your mind set on it. Good luck.
 
MutantCyborg, that was a shy girl's advice right there (if I remember right).

I am not sure did she notice the eye-tag game mention though. With that in mind, I would just say that go for it. You seriously have nothing to lose. If you want, you can follow the situation some time like she advices you to do, but I personally wouldn't. If I would know a lad have some interested in me, and then wouldn't ask, I would just see him as a pussy.

yea, I'm going for it tomorrow because what the hell. Now I just need to think of something to do in my boring town. I was just going to ask her out to dinner Saturday, but now I'm unsure of what to do.
 
yea, I'm going for it tomorrow because what the hell. Now I just need to think of something to do in my boring town. I was just going to ask her out to dinner Saturday, but now I'm unsure of what to do.

Just remember to give that friend of yours a fist sandwich. There are really only two things that could have made him do that...immaturity or CB'ing, neither of which is cool between pals. Sorry to fixate, but...damn.

Back to the gal, good luck asking today. She knows it's coming, and don't be surprised if she says yes or no.
 
Went on date 1.5 with the new girl... talked some more over lunch yesterday, good times again, confirmed for Friday. Movies and something else before, since the movies at the theatre we're going to start really early (6-7) or really late (9-10).

Probably grab some drinks before and be nice and loaded during the movie. heh.
 
I immensely dislike this man and the people that follow him as well.
And none of us care that you do :D That's the beauty of it.

What happened to Wolfie? :(

Edit: Oh, ffs. I think the OP needs a clause that says you need to read up on PUA because people start spouting nonsense and general misconceptions about it. It's getting tiresome, tbh. There's nothing inherently right or wrong about it at all, it's just people using it in different ways. And once you have the full picture, only then can one truly decide whether it's for you or not. But at least then you would know the basics of it, which would probably end a lot of the suffering in here, which really can't be a bad idea.

Apart from the bad attitude and occasional phrasing, he did good work in here.
 
Guys need help. Please.

- Talked to a girl at a bar / restaurant. She was with her friend (has a boyfriend).

- Introduced myself, had a conversation with her about multiple topics and ended it with a "nice meeting you".

- Didn't close the deal, but she really wanted me to ask her for her # but I didn't.

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But then.....

- I realised when I wished my friend happy birthday on facebook, we had a couple of mutual friends and thus I saw her picure and recognize her.

- Then I messaged her. It was two days after the initial meet that we had.

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So is this considered creepy and I basically fucked up and lost all chance at getting this chick because I gave her a creppy perception or am I still good? Basically, did I fuck up and become a creep in her mind or am I still in it?

She seemed a lot more excited to meet than I was to meet her.
 
Oh, so she's single?

Nah, it's not creepy. Just tell her you saw her on the mutual friends thing and that you were an idiot for not asking her number the first time around.

But above all, be awesome and not creepy about it.

Yeah, she's single but I didn't say the bolded part, should have as a light joke. Lol.

Cool. Thanks.

I'd like more people to chime in on the situation though.
 
So is this considered creepy and I basically fucked up and lost all chance at getting this chick because I gave her a creppy perception or am I still good? Basically, did I fuck up and become a creep in her mind or am I still in it?

She seemed a lot more excited to meet than I was to meet her.

I don't think that's creepy at all. You saw her, reached out and said "hey." As long as you don't dote about how awesome and amazing it was to talk with her and get to know her or some such BS, you're not a creep. You had fun. Friend her, set up a little something.
 
I don't think that's creepy at all. You saw her, reached out and said "hey." As long as you don't dote about how awesome and amazing it was to talk with her and get to know her or some such BS, you're not a creep. You had fun. Friend her, set up a little something.

Dote? What's that even suppose to mean? I didn't friend her yet because I wanted to message her first and I thought I'd wait till she replies before I friend her and then go on with the setup.

Thanks again guys!
 
Update on my situation.

Cockblocker guy wasn't there when class started, so I was planning on making my move after class. Suddenly 40 MINUTES INTO CLASS, guess who fucking walks in the door. Again, I am still getting confusing signals watching them, so it's best for now to just wait it out. We will see what happens next week.
 
Update on my situation.

Cockblocker guy wasn't there when class started, so I was planning on making my move after class. Suddenly 40 MINUTES INTO CLASS, guess who fucking walks in the door. Again, I am still getting confusing signals watching them, so it's best for now to just wait it out. We will see what happens next week.

so they sit together every class?
 
so they sit together every class?

I only have them in this one class. Basically he is flirting her hardcore, but she doesn't seem to be actively doing it back, and her responses are kind of "smile and look the other way". I can't tell if she's shy or actually thinks he's annoying.
 
I only have them in this one class. Basically he is flirting her hardcore, but she doesn't seem to be actively doing it back, and her responses are kind of "smile and look the other way". I can't tell if she's shy or actually thinks he's annoying.

i mean, every week in that class, they sit together?

i dont see why you're agonizing over this, just go up to her after class even if the guy is there. do you know her name already?
 
i mean, every week in that class, they sit together?

i dont see why you're agonizing over this, just go up to her after class even if the guy is there. do you know her name already?

They sit a couple of seats apart, but they were always that way since the beginning of the semester. You probably missed the story. I'll tell the short version.

I was planning on asking this girl out last week, was talking to her, cockblocker guy comes and sits down, pulls a smooth move and asks her out.

And yes I know her name.
 
I only have them in this one class. Basically he is flirting her hardcore, but she doesn't seem to be actively doing it back, and her responses are kind of "smile and look the other way". I can't tell if she's shy or actually thinks he's annoying.

Next time he's not around just ask nonchalantly her if that guy bothers her. Then you'll know for sure.
 
Next time he's not around just ask nonchalantly her if that guy bothers her. Then you'll know for sure.

He kinda did already. Her response was that she found him annoying or something to that order.

I'd just ask her after class, and tell the guy to just 'give me a sec.'. Ask her out, get her number. Bam. Done.

EDIT: FYI Hylian7, he sounds like competition so stand your ground if he tries to bark you away. Ignore him if he tries to talk
you away.

EDIT 2: Or even physically block you. Not forcefully, but just stop/halt you in your tracks, like a simple handshake.
 
He kinda did already. Her response was that she found him annoying or something to that order.

I'd just ask her after class, and tell the guy to just 'give me a sec.'. Ask her out, get her number. Bam. Done.

EDIT: FYI Hylian7, he sounds like competition so stand your ground if he tries to bark you away. Ignore him if he tries to talk
you away.

EDIT 2: Or even physically block you. Not forcefully, but just stop/halt you in your tracks, like a simple handshake.

I agree. Also ask her if that guy is giving her a hard time. Sometimes girls are just scared to tell a guy they find intimidating to fuck off, she might need your help. I'm not saying white knight her or anything but feel out the situation if you think he's been harassing her. Sometimes guys specifically annoy a girl in public so she's pressured into being "nice" so people don't think she's a "bitch" for telling a guy to get lost.
 
They sit a couple of seats apart, but they were always that way since the beginning of the semester. You probably missed the story. I'll tell the short version.

I was planning on asking this girl out last week, was talking to her, cockblocker guy comes and sits down, pulls a smooth move and asks her out.

And yes I know her name.

nah i read the story. you're so bitter, calling him cockblocker when theres been no cock to block cause you havent done anything.

is it assigned seating? would it be weird for you to sit near her?

give the girl options man
 
He kinda did already. Her response was that she found him annoying or something to that order.

I'd just ask her after class, and tell the guy to just 'give me a sec.'. Ask her out, get her number. Bam. Done.

EDIT: FYI Hylian7, he sounds like competition so stand your ground if he tries to bark you away. Ignore him if he tries to talk
you away.

EDIT 2: Or even physically block you. Not forcefully, but just stop/halt you in your tracks, like a simple handshake.

I didn't ask her that. I said my female friend that saw the whole thing last week thought he was annoying.

I agree. Also ask her if that guy is giving her a hard time. Sometimes girls are just scared to tell a guy they find intimidating to fuck off, she might need your help. I'm not saying white knight her or anything but feel out the situation if you think he's been harassing her. Sometimes guys specifically annoy a girl in public so she's pressured into being "nice" so people don't think she's a "bitch" for telling a guy to get lost.

I will have to see what happens next week. I don't have this class again until Monday.

nah i read the story. you're so bitter, calling him cockblocker when theres been no cock to block cause you havent done anything.

is it assigned seating? would it be weird for you to sit near her?

give the girl options man

I was about to do something and he swooped in. Sure, it was probably unintentional cockblocking, but cockblocking nonetheless.

It's not assigned seating, but everyone sits in the same spot every day, so it would be a little weird if I pulled something like that.
 
It wouldnt be wierd if you sat down next to her.

Just combine my and Devo's advice to your solution. It might even intimidate the guy from doing any advances.

Next time casually take a seat next to her, and kinda observe how the whole thing goes down.

You'll have a better read/judgement of the situation after that... and if you see a chance. Take it.
 
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