Winter 2012 Anime Thread 2.22: You Can (Not) Outpost Cajunator

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I keep asking myself if it's okay to watch the new Saint Seiya without and previous knowledge of the franchise, but then I remember that I only watched Heartcatch Precure because it had Umakoshi character designs so I'll apply the same principle here.
 
Hellsing Ultimate - 09

RIP Anderson

Some nice story expose. Some of the reveals here are pretty cool.
Walter NOT being brainwashed, etc is a big curveball. Will be interesting to see how the battle plays out
. I felt that this was finally one of the cooler cliffhanger endings. I really wonder how they will wrap this up in 1 more OVA though. There seems so much left to do.

Unless the final OVA is one extended action piece.

I think I need to read Hellsing: The Dawn to really appreciate things a lot more. I've purposely avoided both manga but I figure reading The Dawn can't hurt.
I'm sure people who read The Dawn but now the follow-up manga are going holy shit at the end of this OVA though.

Production and animation is still top notch. Didn't watch this through my surround sound so can't be too sure of audio production.

edit: wtf. Sorry about this mis-tagged spoiler. I could have sworn it was fine.
 
Yeah, in the sense that both are nonexistent.
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"Almighty? One permaban, please."
 
Also, I'm not really feeling that cloth design for the new Saint Seiya. I mean, what are those pauldrons supposed to be made of? Cotton? Some sort of polyester? And it looks more like he's wearing tights and a leotard instead of individual pieces of armor.

Hopefully it'll grow on me.

It's called 'artistic liberties' or something.
 
Evangelion: 2.22 You Can (Not) Advance

Really enjoyed it and one of the key reasons for this was because of the large volume of battle scenes. The final battle was particularly great.
Wasn't expecting Kaworu to make his grand entrance at this stage. His entrance in the TV series will always be more memorable.

The animation was nice throughout. Some of the CG pedestrians were a bit of an eye sore, but overall the art was vibrant and pretty appealing.
 
To be fair, there are a ton of stupid looking cloths. Some of the surplices look weird as hell.

For this, the art style bothers me more than the design of the cloth.
 
Well, I haven't seen this posted yet so...

Lupin III Event Lists 'New TV Series Premiering in April'

TOHO Cinemas' announcement for a 40th anniversary Lupin III anime event lists a promotional video for a "new television series premiering in April." According to the announcement, TOHO Cinemas Roppongi Hills theater will also screen the new "Lupin Ikka Seizoroi" (Lupin Family Lineup) short from this month's Lupin III Master File Blu-ray Disc/DVD release, as well as the top-ranked episode from each of the first three Lupin III television series. Lupin III manga creator Monkey Punch and "surprise guests" are scheduled to attend the March 18 event.

A NTV television ad announced last April that a "new television series of Lupin III" would air last fall. However, NTV then told ANN that the new Lupin III TV project would be a special, Lupin III: Chi no Kokuin Eien no Mermaid, which would eventually air last December. Then, the official website for the 40th anniversary announced on January 28 that a "new project is launching this spring," but gave no further details.

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Hype hype hype hype hype!
 
I'm not going to get excited until there's some concrete details to get excited about, but if true that would put a capstone on what looks to be a crazy spring season, especially if the Koike rumors pan out.

Hopefully we only have to wait until March the 18th to find out. I wish I could say the same thing as you, but it's useless. I'm stoked. Hopefully what they show will live up to my expectations (and to be fair, with Lupin it usually does.)

Dresden said:
is the koike lupin dream alive once more?

I believe so, but it could seriously end up being anything. I'm hoping we get something similar-looking to that Pachinko Slot animation, but it's anybodies guess.
 
It's not false advertising. The show presents itself as one thing and then deliberately pulls the rug out from under you, though you may try to spoil that effect. Obviously I wouldn't pull this on children, but an adult should have the temperament to handle the original intent of the work, no?
I agree. Unspoiled tonal/genre shifts can be absolutely amazing, but the internet spoilerfest makes the experience a rarity. If you really can't stand what a show shifts into, then you can just drop it and move on.
 
Well, I haven't seen this posted yet so...



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Hype hype hype hype hype!

Let's predict the staff.

Director: Takeshi Koike (Redline)
Script: Yoji Enokido (Star driver, Utena)
Character Design: Takeshi Koike (Redline)
Music: Yoko Kanno (Cowboy Bebop, Macross Plus)
Animation Production: MAPPA / Tezuka Productions

HOLY SHIT BEST ANIME OF ALL TIME INCOMING!!!!
 
I agree. Unspoiled tonal/genre shifts can be absolutely amazing, but the internet spoilerfest makes the experience a rarity. If you really can't stand what a show shifts into, then you can just drop it and move on.

The problem is a lot of people get attracted to these shows because of the genre shift in the first place. The surprise is pretty much nonexistent at this point. Hell, people like Mohiro Kitoh bill themselves on intentionally misleading opening chapters/episodes. By now, the general mindset going in to his work is "wow, look at all these happy people and situations. Wonder how gruesomely it will all be torn away from them."
 
I'm alarmed at the obvious lack of Hellsingbro's since OVA9 released.

Ya'll complain that there's too much moe in anime, but then you guys don't even watch the most anti-moe show OF ALL TIME!!
 
The problem is a lot of people get attracted to these shows because of the genre shift in the first place. The surprise is pretty much nonexistent at this point. Hell, people like Mohiro Kitoh bill themselves on intentionally misleading opening chapters/episodes. By now, the general mindset going in to his work is "wow, look at all these happy people and situations. Wonder how gruesomely it will all be torn away from them."
Which is why it's all the more important that people don't spoil someone who's genuinely clueless.
 
I'm alarmed at the obvious lack of Hellsingbro's since OVA9 released.

Ya'll complain that there's too much moe in anime, but then you guys don't even watch the most anti-moe show OF ALL TIME!!

Complaining about the quantity of 'moe centric' titles in anime as a whole is so 2010. No-one does that any more.
 
I need names. Specific names M_Night.

Cwarrior....
Kagari?
Possibly, Shouta!

Kinda grasping at straws here, but we've all seen those posts. I used to see them a lot in my lurk days before I was a member. Probably from people that had finally accepted, modern anime doesn't cater to their tastes any more.

Complaining about the quantity of 'moe centric' titles in anime as a whole is so 2010. No-one does that any more.

Has the future been embraced? Or, once the glory of Spring passes and the disappointing Summer/Fall line-ups are posted those days shall return!
 
Cwarrior....
Kagari?
Possibly, Shouta!

Kinda grasping at straws here, but we've all seen those posts. I used to see them a lot in my lurk days before I was a member. Probably from people that had finally accepted, modern anime doesn't cater to their tastes any more.



Has the future been embraced? Or, once the glory of Spring passes and the disappointing Summer/Fall line-ups are posted those days shall return!

Shouta and Kagari are more on the manga side of things and Cwarrior watches plenty of current anime.
 
I'm alarmed at the obvious lack of Hellsingbro's since OVA9 released.

Ya'll complain that there's too much moe in anime, but then you guys don't even watch the most anti-moe show OF ALL TIME!!

People here complain about moe? I wouldn't have expected that.
 
I don't think discussing, or overtly hinting at spoilerific aspects of any work should be encouraged, regardless of the quality of said work. There are ways to encourage interesting in a work while still being subtle about it.


said it in a nutshell, jex. I agree with this while...

But they are different works in completely different mediums. I don't know why people have such difficulty separating adaptations from the originals like this; same mentality that gets people upset about 'faithfulness' to source as if that even matters when faithlessness often benefits the material. That the Usagi Drop anime ends differently does not mean that you can just imagine that the manga fills in the blanks - it ends where it ends, regardless of where the original work ended.

Don't necessarily think that comparisons between the works should be ceased, or banned, or anything like that, just that the "IF YOU THINK YOU LIKE IT NOW WAIT UNTIL YOU SEE HOW IT REALLY ENDS LOL!1" thing is annoying on multiple levels.

I don't agree on the point you two are making about the separation of the narrative, at all.
The gist of it is that I don't believe the narrative ends, just because it happens to exist within a separate medium from the point-for-point faithful anime, and you guys don't like what you've heard of the proper ending, so you say it's "Completely different! It deserves no mention," when that's hardly the case. The film is completely different. The anime isn't. I'm not arguing for (or against) faithfulness, so let's not get lost in a tangent, Icarus. There's no debate there, the anime has aired, and is. And with that, I'm saying that if one wanted to, they could go, and with precision, continue the story from the exact point the show left them off at, and do nothing but 'gain' in the process. It's not an issue of filling in blanks. There are no blanks to fill. And to not continue the story that does continue would be of your own inhibition, not because of the blockade--and I say blockade because of your use of the line--of 'medium,' when the producers themselves decided against doing anything different with it.

Conduct, I've agreed on.
And I could agree that there are instances where it wouldn't make any sense to discuss the manga (OG FMA adaptation vs the manga, for example), but Usagi Drop is not one of them.
 
You don't gain anything but wrecking another person's enjoyment of the series. I didn't know shit about the manga and now you've coloured my view of the anime. Thanks.

If you must talk about it at least spoiler tag it as a courtesy or something.
 
You don't gain anything but wrecking another person's enjoyment of the series. I didn't know shit about the manga and now you've coloured my view of the anime. Thanks.

If you must talk about it at least spoiler tag it as a courtesy or something.

Ah, that's true, Jintor. I should have realized that even the indirect discussion was insinuating at that point. My apologies. Affecting your enjoyment was never the intent. It's tagged as asked.
 
P4: 5

This show really is hilarious. I never expected them to actually nail the humor the game attempted, but couldn't really do as well. Yu's ringer for Ai and subsequent dealing with her on the phone killed me.
 
P4: 5

This show really is hilarious. I never expected them to actually nail the humor the game attempted, but couldn't really do as well. Yu's ringer for Ai and subsequent dealing with her on the phone killed me.

I'm gonna run Nichijou and Nichibro alongside it for that Comedy Trifecta.
 
Let's predict the staff.

Director: Takeshi Koike (Redline)
Script: Yoji Enokido (Star driver, Utena)
Character Design: Takeshi Koike (Redline)
Music: Yoko Kanno (Cowboy Bebop, Macross Plus)
Animation Production: MAPPA / Tezuka Productions

HOLY SHIT BEST ANIME OF ALL TIME INCOMING!!!!
Yūji Ōno is still active, you know...
 
P4: 5

This show really is hilarious. I never expected them to actually nail the humor the game attempted, but couldn't really do as well. Yu's ringer for Ai and subsequent dealing with her on the phone killed me.

Did you like the ringtone and/or play Catherine?
 
well, we pretty much never agree on anything, so that's not surprising much. I will bring up whatever tangents I feel like, miri, and you are free to ignore them (i.e. not get lost) as you please.

If they continue, they continue, if they don't, they don't. They are not the same. Not sure what the point of making a work in a different medium would really be. That is a line I'm drawing - where's yours, the name "Usagi Drop"? It's a faithful adaptation, not an identical one (though identical remakes like Psycho '98 are still different works even within the same medium), that chooses to stop at different point. The ending is fundamental to the work. Just because the movie A Clockwork Orange leaves off the last chapter doesn't mean you can fill in the ending, etc

Not for nothing, since I don't really care about Usagi Drop in particular, but if the people writing the adaptation cared, they could have ended it like the movie and basically had
the parents hook up.
. They still had a choice in how they adapted a text, and they decided to go one way instead of another.

Whether the mangaka had a say in the anime but not the movie, I have no idea.
 
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