2012 NBA Mar |OT| Knicks fans now drinking JD in straight shots

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ph33nix said:
while we're on the subject of asian snacks am I the only one who likes to eat all the chocolate off the Pocky before eating the stick?
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You like slurping the chocolate off the sticks, eh?
 
Bad call, Wade didn't touch that. Refs listened to the home crowd instead of making the right call.

But /shrug, homecourt advantage.
 
The M.O.B said:
Bad call, Wade didn't touch that. Refs listened to the home crowd instead of making the right call.

But /shrug, homecourt advantage.
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NBADraft.net's 2000 NBA draft scouting reports were amazing

Stromile Swift:

NBA Comparison: Shawn Kemp

Strengths: Amazing athlete. As a senior in HS dunked from the free throw line in a dunk contest. Very good moves around the basket. Has all the tools to become a top PF in the NBA. Good hands, soft touch. Good competitor.

Weaknesses: Inexperience. Passing and defense can improve. Post moves can get much better. Needs to demand the ball and take over more then he does already.
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Darius Miles:

NBA Comparison: Tracy McGrady

Strengths: A freak athletically. Super quickness. Very fast running the floor. Future wing player. Upside is tremendous. Has developed a nice crossover and like his idol KG, likes to play away from the basket and take players off the dribble.

Weaknesses: Underdeveloped body. Needs to get a lot stronger. Very raw skills. Jump shot has no range. Will take a while before he can contribute. Must learn on the fly.
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Marcus Fizer

NBA Comparison: Charles Barkley

Strengths: Super strong and athletic. Mentally tough. Great competitor. Can score both in the post or on the perimeter. Has very good ball handling skills. Versatility will allow him to play some small forward. His strength, positioning, and leaping ability will help overcome heigh disadvantages for rebounds. Excells in half court or open court despite lack of speed. Has good quickness. A winner.

Weaknesses: A bit short for the PF position. Not extremely fast in the open floor.
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Jerome Moiso

NBA Comparison: Kevin Garnett

Strengths: Super agility and offensive touch. Borderline freak. Very quick hands, is adept at rebound putbacks and has a great touch out to 18 feet. Great leaping ability. Potential is very high. Can create shots for teammates, a good passer. Post game is good.

Weaknesses: Shys away from contact. Like Garnett athletically but not nearly the player yet. Not great at taking a smaller man off the dribble. Unconsistent at times.
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Canuck76 said:
You know he did. He looked deflated before the whistle blew. He knew
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Moreso disappointed that he didn't snatch it before he let the decision go to the refs.

EDIT: They are not showing replay but you would have notice the balls rotation was constant, never touched.
 
Royce of DailyThunder.com just tweeted this pic of Bestbrook being a complete freak in the All Star game.

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DWill seems impressed.
 
DY_nasty said:
That's not too far out of Beasley's realm. Imagine if he wasn't fucking crazy. Better yet, imagine if he was like Rose. So humble.

:/

He could've been a lot better.
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In my lifetime I've witnessed Zach microfracture, Darius retiring, Roy, Oden, and a countless of other injuries that took a player out for at least half a season like Batum, Outlaw, Przy, and Webster.
 
DY_nasty said:
That's not too far out of Beasley's realm. Imagine if he wasn't fucking crazy. Better yet, imagine if he was like Rose. So humble.
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They do have similar games, I agree. But Melo is more athletic and ... yeah more consistent and not as crazy.

Mike just has never been in a situation suited for him. But "suited for him" means you're probably on a shitty team unless he has Dwight next to him
 
I feel your pain reilo.

You know whats sad about being a Lolcats fan? Up until this year, Sean May was easily the most talented guy we've drafted.
 
CoffeeJanitor said:
Yes. Clutchness is madeup bullshit. I think I already had this discussion with you.
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I think it is fair to say that, outside of guys who coast until the last few minutes like CP3 (and yes, he coasts because of injury, just an example), that not a ton of guys raise their level of play, the level of play of some players falls under pressure. I mean...People in all aspects of life can struggle under lots of pressure, hard to argue that there aren't at least chokers.
 
DY_nasty said:
I feel your pain reilo.

You know whats sad about being a Lolcats fan? Up until this year, Sean May was easily the most talented guy we've drafted.
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Yeah but you didn't draft Telfair. Nor did you trade down to grab Webster and pass on Deron/CP3 because Telfair was the PGOTF.
 
ItWasMeantToBe19 said:
I think it is fair to say that, outside of guys who coast until the last few minutes like CP3 (and yes, he coasts because of injury, just an example), that not a ton of guys raise their level of play, the level of play of some players falls under pressure. I mean...People in all aspects of life can struggle under lots of pressure, hard to argue that there aren't at least chokers.
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I'm more of the opinion that the good players tend to do better at the ends of games because they're good.

CP3 works near the ends of games because he's a PG who can shoot very well and run his offense well. Thus you're probably going to get a quality shot.

I don't deny that some guys may pass up "the big shot", but at the same time you can't just assume that if a guy misses a few games in a row or turns down one shot, that he doesn't "know how to win" or something like that. End of game sample sizes are small.

I still don't think anyone elevates their level of play, they just play their normal game, and if they're good, they'll probably hit shots/make plays. These plays just stick out to us more when we remember games and it clouds our judgement.

(imo)
 
CoffeeJanitor said:
I'm more of the opinion that the good players tend to do better at the ends of games because they're good.

CP3 works near the ends of games because he's a PG who can shoot very well and run his offense well. Thus you're probably going to get a quality shot.

I don't deny that some guys may pass up "the big shot", but at the same time you can't just assume that if a guy misses a few games in a row or turns down one shot, that he doesn't "know how to win" or something like that. End of game sample sizes are small.
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"A few"? In Lebron's case, it's a dozen playoff games over 9 years.

Anyone that has ever watched Brandon Roy knows exactly what clutch is.

You're only denying it to excuse Lebron.
 
CoffeeJanitor said:
I'm more of the opinion that the good players tend to do better at the ends of games because they're good.

CP3 works near the ends of games because he's a PG who can shoot very well and run his offense well. Thus you're probably going to get a quality shot.

I don't deny that some guys may pass up "the big shot", but at the same time you can't just assume that if a guy misses a few games in a row or turns down one shot, that he doesn't "know how to win" or something like that. End of game sample sizes are small.

I still don't think anyone elevates their level of play, they just play their normal game, and if they're good, they'll probably hit shots/make plays. These plays just stick out to us more when we remember games and it clouds our judgement.

(imo)
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There is a lot of confirmation bias involved yes, but there are a lot of guys who simply can't handle major pressure situations (KG) or have offensive styles based around outworking the opposition that simply do not work well in playoff or crunch time situations where everyone is playing really hard (Malone) and those players can get the unclutch tag and it has some factual basis.

Not saying that LeBron is a choker or anything though, his issues don't have to do with the last five minutes of a game.
 
reilo said:
"A few"? In Lebron's case, it's a dozen playoff games over 9 years.

Anyone that has ever watched Brandon Roy knows exactly what clutch is.

You're only denying it to excuse Lebron.
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Small sample sizes. And LeBron has also come up huge in a lot of playoff games. In fact, his averages are damn near ridiculous near the ends of games.

I would just like to point out that there is no statistical evidence that supports there being a "clutch gene". If Roy were to continue to take end of game shots his FG% would probably lower, for the same reason that if a guy got hot and shot 65% for 3 or 4 games in a row you would expect him to slump at some point to get back to average.

The whole clutch argument seems to come down to whether you prefer statistical evidence or the eye test.
ItWasMeantToBe19 said:
There is a lot of confirmation bias involved yes, but there are a lot of guys who simply can't handle major pressure situations (KG) or have offensive styles based around outworking the opposition that simply do not work well in playoff or crunch time situations where everyone is playing really hard (Malone) and those players can get the unclutch tag and it has some factual basis.

Not saying that LeBron is a choker or anything though, his issues don't have to do with the last five minutes of a game.
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I was a young wolves fan when KG was playing so I honestly can't give you an objective take on how he played during crunch time, and Malone was before my time, so I can't really comment there either.

I'm also certainly not defending LeBron here. I just don't like the idea of 'clutch' at all.
 
I thought the sexual assault one was genius

I don't think you can play any sport while giving a fuck then argue against the clutch gene.
 
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