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Quite unfortunate initials really. For people of a certain age, TC can only refer to one thing.

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Salazar said:
You should watch it, btw.
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I'm watching it now. As much as I like to mock him, he really is a very talented player.
 
Mastadon said:
I'm watching it now. As much as I like to mock him, he really is a very talented player.
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The positive thing is the attitude of "Yes, send me to a Championship club. Can't wait. I'll work my socks off, boss".

There's a reason why Pogba can't point at Welbeck and Cleverley and think about getting similar treatment and opportunities.

Let alone move to Juve and think about leapfrogging some of those players.
 
Let's not fuck around - Neither Mourinho or Guardiola could get anything cup winning out of this set of players. The players are and always have been the problem. They're not as good as the press and some of the fans think they are.

(I know I'm not saying anything controversial here but it bears saying)
 
I wouldn't want Redknapp to have the job full time to be honest because I don't think his tactics would work as well internationally. I also don't subscribe to the opinion the next manager should be English. The two finalists of Euro 2004 were German and Brazilian, a lot of African teams have foreign coaches. So good on the FA for considering foreign coaches at least.
 
This is from a Guardian article which restores a little bit of faith before they reach puberty and fuck things up:

While the likes of Welbeck, Sturridge, Jones and Smalling gained another taste of bigger things here, the Under-21s, were thrashing Belgium on Teesside. Some 22,647 fans were at the Riverside for a 6pm kick-off on the same night as a senior fixture. Players made names for themselves, too: from Marvin Sordell, Bolton's £3m signing from Watford, to Wilfried Zaha of Crystal Palace. The 4-0 victory maintained an upbeat tone.

Some 24 hours earlier, Noel Blake's all-conquering Under-19s had defeated the Czechs without the likes of Connor Wickham, Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain and Josh McEachran, three of five who had been fast-tracked into the Under-21s. Blake's charges, as Under-17s, had claimed the European Championship two years ago in Liechtenstein, the national set-up's only significant tournament success in 19 years, during which time the Spanish juniors have claimed 14 honours. Yet Spain have only beaten England once in almost three years. The eight meetings across the age groups in that time have seen the English prevail at Under-16, Under-17 (twice) and Under-21 levels, hinting at underlying progress.
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Salazar said:
I need an Arsenal victory.
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No, what we need is a boring 0-0 draw. Well, it can be entertaining if need be, so long as it's a draw.

"High Court throws out a damages claim by Manchester United footballer Ryan Giggs against the Sun newspaper"

lawl, damages claim.
 
So David Luiz tells Frank Lampard, through proxy of radio show, to kindly shut the fuck up and do your job. Chelsea execs are purportedly perturbed that AVB is airing his ails and letting it be known he's on thin ice, and now Romelu Lukaku is already aiming for an exit? If the rumor mill is to believed, that club is in a state of disaster.

When Torres left Liverpool, one of the things he said he noticed and appreciated instantly at Chelsea was the lighthearted feel of the dressing room, opposite Hodgson's Liverpool which was gloomy and under pressure. A year later and it's completely reversed. He's moved from one club in a state of panic to another, although Abramovich is without question the owner of choice where pure funds are concerned.

As far as Torres is concerned, it must be said - he simply has to be wondering where the weak link is if twice he's found himself out of form and wondering which way to jump from a sinking ship.

I foresee a new star striker on Chelsea's horizon. Looking at the scope of European football clubs, I could see Chelsea being the most likely buyer for Edinson Cavani, as much as it pains me to admit. Fernando Llorente would be a good buy for anyone and Roberto Soldado is on fire. In the latter case, you'd simply have to pity Valencia, who have lost their star player literally every year. David Villa, David Silva, Juan Mata... come to think of it, how the hell do they come up with these guys in the first place?
 
odd_morsel said:
So David Luiz tells Frank Lampard, through proxy of radio show, to kindly shut the fuck up and do your job. Chelsea execs are purportedly perturbed that AVB is airing his ails and letting it be known he's on thin ice, and now Romelu Lukaku is already aiming for an exit? If the rumor mill is to believed, that club is in a state of disaster.

When Torres left Liverpool, one of the things he said he noticed and appreciated instantly at Chelsea was the lighthearted feel of the dressing room, opposite Hodgson's Liverpool which was gloomy and under pressure. A year later and it's completely reversed. He's moved from one club in a state of panic to another, although Abramovich is without question the owner of choice where pure funds are concerned.

As far as Torres is concerned, it must be said - he simply has to be wondering where the weak link is if twice he's found himself out of form and wondering which way to jump from a sinking ship.

I foresee a new star striker on Chelsea's horizon. Looking at the scope of European football clubs, I could see Chelsea being the most likely buyer for Edinson Cavani, as much as it pains me to admit. Fernando Llorente would be a good buy for anyone and Roberto Soldado is on fire. In the latter case, you'd simply have to pity Valencia, who have lost their star player literally every year. David Villa, David Silva, Juan Mata... come to think of it, how the hell do they come up with these guys in the first place?
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Lukaku has wanted a loan move ever since he realized he wasn't going to get much playing time this season. Don't think it has anything to do with the current dressing room situation.

The striker situation is worrying though. Would love Edinson Cavani at Chelsea though.
 
Could do worse than a Pleatism

"Craig Bellamy definitely runs faster forwards than he runs backwards"

“It was wild and handsome, high and handsome”

Pleat: “The Swedish only have ten minutes to do something should they want to stay in the competition”
Clive Tyldesley: “There’s still 26 minutes left of the match”
Pleat: “Oh dear I forgot to put my watch back to Swiss time”

“He's a very young, fresh-faced player, well he's not that young actually, 26 or 27, fresh-faced though, looks like he has just come out of college”

“With eight minutes left, the game could be won in the next five or ten minutes”

“They are trying to walk the ball in by heading it”

“They're changing some of the midget gems in midfield”

“There we see the little man trying to scratch the big man”

“Sergio Ramos was an expensive addition to Spain”

“Moutinho using his weight there - all 5’ 7” of it”

"The Dutch will be wary of the big lad pulling off at the back post"

"Brian McBride is pound for pound as good as any of the top strikers in the Premiership"

"This will be the first time we will be two thirds of the way through the match"

"Great save by Michael Carrick" (on Cech saving from Carrick)

"I'm not too sure how much you get for winning the Champion's League, but it's definitely 10 million euro"

"Here we see Tevez's little curly one"

"The ball is tied to his feet, but where's the string?"

"Giuly's only 5'6 he's not very tall for a winger"

Clive Tyldesley: "Well, we have a Spanish referee for this all English encounter"
Pleat: "Yes, well it is hot"

"Carrick will be the deepest of the threesome"

"He wasn't really trying to score with that shot"

Clive Tyldesley: "This wont be United's biggest win in Europe. They actually won a game 10-1"
Pleat: "I remember that as a young man, against Anderlecht, wasn't it?"
Tyldesley: "It was in 1903, David"

"Marseille needed to score first, and that never looked likely once Liverpool had taken the lead"

"I would take advantage of this and make the wall stand the full 10 metres back"

''Ive just noticed something interesting, the left and right backs have both got long sleeve shirts on"

"Giggs is enjoying himself in the middle of the threesome"

Clive Tyldesley: "David, whats your prediction for the match?"
David Pleat: "Good evening everyone, a lovely night for football"

''Carrick has got all the ingredients in his recipe''

"Ronaldo draws a lot of comparisons with George Best, the incomparable George Best"

"The Greek commentators are going mad, and they're standing in front of us. Sit down!"

"He's a water carrier, a hard worker, a bit of a dog... a ferret"

"I think they'll have to throw the kitchen sink at them now a bit. Maybe not the whole sink, with all the plumbing - maybe just the taps for now"

"He's a local favourite, born and bred in Salford" (On Cardiff-born Ryan Giggs)

"They’ll be happy with that, but they'd be more happy if it went in"

"Zola's got two feet"

"We just ran out of legs"

"At this moment there is not a problem at this moment"

"I was inbred into the game by my father"

"There's a little bit of a South American touch, if that's not Irish, about this European side, Portugal"

"He's got a brain under his hair"

"And the steam has gone completely out of the Spanish sails"

"I've seen some players with very big feet, and some with very small feet"

"A game is not won until it is lost"

"Stoichkov is pointing at the bench with his eyes"

"Our central defenders, Doherty and Anthony Gardner, were fantastic and I told them that when they go to bed tonight they should think of each other"

"There's Thierry Henry, exploding like the French train that he is"

"If there are any managers out there with a bottomless pit, I'm sure that they would be interested in these two Russians"
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@BenPearceSpurs said:
Redknapp says Bale has a bit of a hamstring injury but 'hopefully should be okay' for Sunday.

Reports that Bale could be out for a month are 'absolutely a million miles wrong, he hasn't even got a tear. Its just a bit tight'.

Walker 'got a knock but he should be fit'. Van der Vaart's 'hopefully going to train today'. King's 'not bad'. Wait and see as usual.
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Huh.

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Kuszczak doesn't really have any bridges to burn anymore. No link because Murdoch filth.

TOMASZ KUSZCZAK corrects himself when talking about his six seasons at Manchester United.

He says: "It is five, to be honest, as the last one does not exactly count.

"I have not played a single game after being pushed aside. This was all a very disappointing end to my time at United."

The Polish international actually played 61 times for Alex Ferguson yet while still employed by United, he is effectively an ex-player.

Kuszczak, 29, will play his second game on loan at Watford against Burnley tomorrow and is now looking to the future with his Old Trafford contract due to expire in May.

Kuszczak, whose last game was at Blackburn last May, said: "In previous years there was no place for goalkeeping mistakes and I always knew that. It is a big club.

"This year there is more of a place for goalkeeping mistakes and bad performances.

"This is the way it is. I am disappointed about how things have ended.

"I want to stress that I want to see the lads at United win the Premier League title.

"They are still my friends and I wish them all the best. Why should I be angry with them?

"But I am disappointed. Really disappointed, about the way things have worked out.

"I had waited and did what Sir Alex Ferguson had asked me over this period of time.

"I was loyal but did not receive enough chances to prove myself and that is why I am here today.
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I don't really have much time for his salt.
 
Salazar said:
Could do worse than a Pleatism

Clive Tyldesley: "This wont be United's biggest win in Europe. They actually won a game 10-1"
Pleat: "I remember that as a young man, against Anderlecht, wasn't it?"
Tyldesley: "It was in 1903, David"
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Hahaha, gets me every time.
 
Well, at least he's better than Mark Lawrenson. Although that isn't exactly hard.

Don't know what it is about ex-Liverpool players, but they make truly awful commentators.
 
Salazar said:
lol, he is infallibly barmy.
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Indeed, still not as hilarious as Gordan Strachan's quotes though.

Reporter: Welcome to Southampton Football Club. Do you think you are the right man to turn things around?
Strachan: No. I was asked if I thought I was the right man for the job and I said, "No, I think they should have got George Graham because I'm useless."

Reporter: Is that your best start to a season?
Strachan: Well I've still got a job so it's far better than the Coventry one, that's for sure.

Reporter: Are you getting where you want to be with this team?
Strachan: We're not doing bad. What do you expect us to be like? We were eighth in the league last year, in the cup final and we got into Europe. I don't know where you expect me to get to. Do you expect us to win the Champions League?

Reporter: Gordon, you must be delighted with that result?
Strachan: You're spot on! You can read me like a book.

Strachan: I've got more important things to think about. I've got a yogurt to finish by today, the expiry date is today. That can be my priority rather than Agustin Delgado.

Reporter: This might sound like a daft question, but you'll be happy to get your first win under your belt, won't you?
Strachan: You're right. It is a daft question. I'm not even going to bother answering that one. It is a daft question, you're spot on there.

Reporter: Bang, there goes your unbeaten run. Can you take it?
Strachan: No, I'm just going to crumble like a wreck. I'll go home, become an alcoholic and maybe jump off a bridge. Umm, I think I can take it, yeah.

Reporter: There's no negative vibes or negative feelings here?
Strachan: Apart from yourself, we're all quite positive round here. I'm going to whack you over the head with a big stick, down negative man, down.

Reporter: Where will Marion Pahars fit into the team line-up?
Strachan: Not telling you! It's a secret.

Reporter: You don't take losing lightly, do you Gordon?
Strachan: I don't take stupid comments lightly either.

Reporter: So, Gordon, in what areas do you think Middlesbrough were better than you today?
Strachan: What areas? Mainly that big green one out there...

Reporter: Gordon, Do you think James Beattie deserves to be in the England squad?
Strachan: I don't care, I'm Scottish.

Reporter: "Gordon, can we have a quick word please?"
Strachan: "Velocity" [walks off]

Reporter: Gordon, if you were English, what formation would you play?
Strachan: If I was English I'd kill myself! ...

On Chatshow with impressionist Alistair McGowan
Strachan: "If you can do Thierry Henry, I'll give you a game on Saturday."

"If a Frenchman goes on about seagulls, trawlers and sardines, he’s called a philosopher. I’d just be called a short Scottish bum talking crap."
Gordon Strachan in response to Cantona's famous "seagulls" quote following the 1995 Crystal Palace-Simmons incident.

"Its an incredible rise to stardom, at 17 you're more likely to get a call from Michael Jackson than Sven Goran Eriksson"
WGS on Wayne Rooney

"My bum has been through every temperature known to man."
Gordon Strachan (On heat treatment and ice-packs, 1993)

On Claus Lundekvam (Southampton)
Saints boss Gordon Strachan paid this glowing tribute to the one-paced Scandinavian in 2003:
“He was carried off at Leicester and someone asked me if he was unconscious. I didn’t have a clue. That’s what he’s always like.”

Strachan was on Sky on one Sunday morning(season 2005-06). He saw John Terry's goal and said he was impressed that Terry goes up expecting to score. He contrasted this to Claus Lundekvam the Saints central defender who goes up for every dead ball and never ever looks remotely like scoring. He said if there was a dead body lying in the penalty area the ball would hit it on the head several times a season which he said is more than Lundekvam can manage. He said referees should book Lundekvam for timewasting every time he goes up for a corner. When the co-commentator said if Lundekvam was watching Strachan was only joking. Strachan assured him he was deadly serious.
Strachan on Sky One(season 2005-06)

Although Strachan says he is first and foremost a coach, he hates the idea of a European-style system where players would be signed above his head. That happened during his tenure at Southampton when Rupert Lowe, below, the chairman, signed Antti Niemi against Strachan's wishes. Strachan recalled that Lowe backed up his view that managers were not the best judges of players by pointing out that farmer friends deemed him a good judge of cows and bulls.
Strachan's response? "If we need a couple of cows to play up front for us, you are the man to see, eh?"
Times Newspaper (Oct 2006)

'The highlight for me, though, was when we got a roasting from Alex (Ferguson). There's a wee window in the dressing room - which is now in the toilet but used to be part of the main changing area.
'We lost a late goal and Alex went berserk. He was kicking tables, sending sandwiches everywhere and, after his rant, there was a minute of quiet while we let him calm down.
'Then, through that wee window a face appeared and it was Alex McLeish's wee brother. He stuck his nose to the glass and shouted: "Alex, mum's asking are you coming home tonight or are you going back to Aberdeen on the bus?''
'Fergie raced at him and booted the window. That's the funniest story I have from Love Street.'
It's a measure of how little Love Street has changed down the years that the window still exists. Even if, now, it serves a rather different function.
'That window is part of the toilet now - people can look in on you.
'You won't get stories like that in the future'
WGS on Love Street (St Mirren's old stadium, Dec 2008)
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Most of the players representing England are shit! This has been, and always will be, England's problem. The FA seem to think that bringing in the likes of Mourinho, Pep or Redknapp will fix the problem, but seemingly forget that these managers are blessed with intelligent, technically gifted and far superior players at their respective clubs that works well with their tactics than England has to offer.
 
Scum said:
Most of the players representing England are shit!
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Bold the shit ones, delete the decent ones - however you like.

1 GK Joe Hart
13 GK Robert Green
21 GK Scott Carson
12 DF Ashley Cole
DF Glen Johnson
15 DF Joleon Lescott
2 DF Micah Richards
6 DF Gary Cahill
3 DF Leighton Baines
14 DF Phil Jones
5 DF Chris Smalling
DF Kyle Walker
10 MF Steven Gerrard
4 MF Gareth Barry
18 MF Stewart Downing
16 MF James Milner
17 MF Theo Walcott
7 MF Ashley Young
8 MF Scott Parker (c)
11 MF Adam Johnson
MF Tom Cleverley
FW Wayne Rooney
FW Darren Bent
9 FW Danny Welbeck
20 FW Daniel Sturridge
19 FW Fraizer Campbell
 
Scum said:
Most of the players representing England are shit! This has been, and always will be, England's problem. The FA seem to think that bringing in the likes of Mourinho, Pep or Redknapp will fix the problem, but seemingly forget that these managers are blessed with intelligent, technically gifted and far superior players at their respective clubs that works well with their tactics than England has to offer.
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this anti-hype nonsense again.
 
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