Winter 2012 Anime Thread 2.22: You Can (Not) Outpost Cajunator

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Defuser

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I would say it's quite hard to get into Fairy Tail anime for the beginning since it started out awkward and the fights are just colourful slideshows.
 

madp

The Light of El Cantare
My thing with Fairy Tail is that every arc that I read
I lost interest in the manga after the Gerard/Jellal/Gjgjgjgjgjg whatever he's called now arc
pretty much had the same set-up and conclusion.
Enter new group of baddies
->
Natsu fights and loses
-> arc suddenly ends instead of ratcheting up the tension/intrigue/generally going into "shit just got real" mode when
Natsu overpowers his opponent with a burst of shounen haato
. I kind of like various elements of it, but nothing was distinct or unique enough to offset the generic shounen and underwhelming resolutions.

I would say it's quite hard to get into Fairy Tail anime for the beginning since it started out awkward and the fights are just colourful slideshows.

Personally, it was a combination of the horrible CG magic circles and Happy's voice that caused me to drop the anime after a few episodes and switch to the manga.
 

Zolf

Member
Tatami Galaxy OF THE END


All in all, I still very much liked this series as a whole. It's unusual, and I have a lot of respect for it for taking a difficult premise and making it work very well. While I might lament that the ending didn't respect my intelligence as much as it could have, that only disappoints as much as it does because of how much the series does respect the viewer's intelligence until that point.

Structurally, I've never seen anything like it, and it's very effective artistically. I'm glad I picked it up and watched it.

I just finished this series myself, and I came away quite impressed. In what way did you feel the ending didn't respect the viewer's intelligence? I feel like it tried to wrap up everything a bit too neatly, but that's the extent of my complaints.
 
I would say it's quite hard to get into Fairy Tail anime for the beginning since it started out awkward and the fights are just colourful slideshows.

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I was hooked by episode 7, the first real major fight after getting used to things first episode. Fights looked intense, in hd. They really do the effects and visuals well. Only flaw is just reused animation for characters but thats common to most anime when they started out if I recall.
 

trejo

Member
Daily Lives of Nichibros 9

This episode was pure gold from beginning to end. I honestly didn't even notice
Tadakuni was missing
till they pointed it out.

Someone should cut him out of the OP Yuru yuri style.
 

zeroshiki

Member
I would not call it a great show, but it is certainly and surprisingly enjoyable. Also, it's an adaptation, so it's spared the Full Okada.

On that note, super media mogul Akimoto Yasushi (the creator of AKB48) says that Mari Okada is a genius and the AKB anime is in good hands with Kawamori and Okada.

There are no lols big enough for this.

Aw, not a fan of the Kugimiya cat? :(

Happy, Erza and Juvia are the only reasons to even bother with Fairy Tail.
 

Defuser

Member
Aw, not a fan of the Kugimiya cat? :(

To be frank it's kinda inappropriate selection. I'm fine with her voicing like that in gintama but it's grating in Fairy tail.


On that note, super media mogul Akimoto Yasushi (the creator of AKB48) says that Mari Okada is a genius and the AKB anime is in good hands with Kawamori and Okada.

There are no lols big enough for this.
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Wait,he did say that? LOL indeed.
 
Aim for the Ace 15:
Man, if this show was in the real world, Toudou and Ozaki would have a restraining order put on them. They're getting way more blatant about the fact that they just spend all their free time stalking Hiromi. It was nice to get more background on them, though, and to find out that the boys team actually practices and does stuff other than stalk members of the girls team.

My thing with Fairy Tail is that every arc that I read
I lost interest in the manga after the Gerard/Jellal/Gjgjgjgjgjg whatever he's called now arc
pretty much had the same set-up and conclusion.
Enter new group of baddies
->
Natsu fights and loses
-> arc suddenly ends instead of ratcheting up the tension/intrigue/generally going into "shit just got real" mode when
Natsu overpowers his opponent with a burst of shounen haato
. I kind of like various elements of it, but nothing was distinct or unique enough to offset the generic shounen and underwhelming resolutions.

Yeah, that was my basic reaction to the Fairy Tail manga (I can't remember when I last read it, but it has been awhile). It interested me in the beginning with the setup, but it quickly devolved into genericness, and the arcs are generally pretty unmemorable.
 
It's a fun show that sticks to the supernatural aspect of the story tied with a romance plot between the leads, but it's not fanservicy or filled with silly love triangles. It's a fun 12 episode ride.

I would not call it a great show, but it is certainly and surprisingly enjoyable. Also, it's an adaptation, so it's spared the Full Okada.

Thanks; I'll throw it on the back of my back burner.

On that note, super media mogul Akimoto Yasushi (the creator of AKB48) says that Mari Okada is a genius and the AKB anime is in good hands with Kawamori and Okada.

There are no lols big enough for this.

It's silly, but what else is he going to say?
 

zeroshiki

Member
It's silly, but what else is he going to say?

Not calling Mari Okada a genius would be a start.

But we're splitting hairs. I'm fairly certain Akimoto had no fucking clue who Mari Okada was before someone prepped him for this interview. He probably doesn't even know there's an anime for AKB coming out.
 

Geneijin

Member
On that note, super media mogul Akimoto Yasushi (the creator of AKB48) says that Mari Okada is a genius and the AKB anime is in good hands with Kawamori and Okada.

There are no lols big enough for this.
Quality drama in the works. It can't be worse than the earlier Aquarion Evol episodes.
 

wonzo

Banned
On that note, super media mogul Akimoto Yasushi (the creator of AKB48) says that Mari Okada is a genius and the AKB anime is in good hands with Kawamori and Okada.

There are no lols big enough for this.
Whoa whoa whoa. You mean to tell me that not only Kawamori but fucking Mari Okada's working on that AKB48 anime....oh my god I gotta see this.
 

Geneijin

Member
Is Zessica really as great as I have been lead to believe?
The character dynamics have been bad and only entertaining when the story's premise hits its potential to overshadow that.

Whoa whoa whoa. You mean to tell me that not only Kawamori but fucking Mari Okada's working on that AKB48 anime....oh my god I gotta see this.
It wouldn't be their first time together. Don't expect much.
 

Steroyd

Member
Now you've really got my attention.

I've got to warn you though, everyone is really set in their personalities, despite having an episode being dedicated to their thing and supposedly undergoing character development (HA!), so it ends up getting stale in that respect.
 

Geneijin

Member
I've got to warn you though, everyone is really set in their personalities, despite having an episode being dedicated to their thing and supposedly undergoing character development (HA!), so it ends up getting stale in that respect.
I don't think I would call that development. It's all been fleshing out characters.
 

wonzo

Banned
It wouldn't be their first time together. Don't expect much.
Ahh, A quick look on ANN reveals they've worked together on Aquarion Evol. Hmm, I haven't seen the original Aquarion so that'll have to wait.

edit: i just noticed that Kawamori was also responsible for the mechanical design of Glass Fleet. amazing
 

dimb

Bjergsen is the greatest midlane in the world
Chihayafuru 22
Uh, what?
This run is going to be ended by some cheating weenie? Now I really don't understand what's going to be done with the last three episodes.
 

Geneijin

Member
Some of them have been fleshed out, but the likes of
hole filler and invisible girl
characters have developed a little just from mingling with the boys.
The
Mix episode
was the only one with character development then. The
Yunoha episode (7)
was just a character introduction.
Episode 11
fleshes her character out.
 

Regulus Tera

Romanes Eunt Domus
Persona Cuatro: La Animación Veintiuno:
Charlie is a true oniichan. Pedoraragi would have already brushed Nanako's teeth.

Kudos to the director for not actually fucking up. No intrusive music when none was needed, no stupid comedy that breaks the atmosphere and etcetera. The best example of that is probably Dojima's incredulity at Charlie's confession of Personae and Shadows; you can feel his exasperation at Charlie's extraordinary confession, as well as Charlie's despair when his uncle doesn't believe him. I have been eager to call out on this cartoon's failings at handling serious moments, but I gotta give it credit where it is due.

lol dat cgi car chase
 

sonicmj1

Member
I just finished this series myself, and I came away quite impressed. In what way did you feel the ending didn't respect the viewer's intelligence? I feel like it tried to wrap up everything a bit too neatly, but that's the extent of my complaints.

I think your complaint about the ending of Tatami Galaxy is also valid, but my feelings about the ending not fully respecting the viewer's intelligence basically come down to the way that it spells out the sort of "thesis" of the series, as it relates to the behavior of the protagonist.

Maybe this was because I was taking the series at a very slow pace, but at a certain point, I was trying on my own to put a pattern to each episode. What were we supposed to take from this? Why are we seeing each of these cycles? And the real commonality between all of them is that the MC always is trying to play a role, conform to some fanciful vision of life that he has in his head. He wants to be a perfect cyclist, or a perfect pilot, or the perfect companion for his penpal, and because he wants to fulfill this vision, he misses the "opportunity dangling before his eyes", both in the sense of Akashi and in the sense that his circumstances at the end of a given episode often aren't as dire as he thinks they are. There are nine episodes of this before Tatami Galaxy begins its concluding lap, and if the viewer asks herself at any point before then why these cycles are repeating, they might find this answer. Some episodes highlight it better than others.

Perhaps episode 10, and the first half of the finale, are necessary because Yuasa thinks it's important to dismiss some other possible false conclusion that he thinks people might reach. And perhaps my feeling that this conclusion is sort of overexplained comes from the MC's hyperactive internal monologue, which really can't help itself. But when the protagonist starts wandering through all his old rooms and is all, "Hey look at all these choices in my life, all these differences weren't so bad after all, would you look at that," I think it's being a bit obvious.

This could all just be my impatience, though. When I look back on the ending, writing this post, it's not as bad as I might have initially thought. It's sort of like I solved the solution to a mystery story well in advance, and I'm getting impatient waiting for the author to explain the answer his way. A mystery should be able to lay out the clues to its answers in advance of the big reveal, so the reader can look back and follow the road of deduction for themselves. But if you arrive at the end of that road before the character in your story, waiting for everyone to catch up can be a bit tiring.
 

Jex

Member
Shin Mazinger Z 5

That might have been the most exciting explanation of an alloy I've ever seen. The over the top nature of this show makes me recall a forum request I saw forever ago where someone was looking for the panel from the manga where Koji Kabuto jumps from the head of Mazinger Z and stabs Dr. Hell to death with his sideburns. At the time I thought this was just silliness but now I'm not so sure.

Well who doesn't get excited for SUPER ALLOY-Z! That scene is one of many that's entirely sold off the back of the narrator being incredibly over-the-top. He's one of the few who could possibly rival the Kaiji narrator.
 

Steroyd

Member
The
Mix episode
was the only one with character development then. The
Yunoha episode (7)
was just a character introduction.
Episode 11
fleshes her character out.

Yunoha's
was one of the more blatent in that
she was perma invisible throughout the whole of episode 1-6, then opened up more from 7 onwards by making her visible to transparent,
latest episode shows how she started out as you say.
 

Jex

Member
Oh hey, cajun, is back. Now the thread will fill up even faster.
[...]

You sound like one of those folks who expect us to get to OT3. I'm sorry to say it aint happening!
Yep. This is the
half way point
in terms of where the manga is at now, so, the adapters don't really have many options.

Well they always have the option to do whatever the heck they want and forge their own ending.
 

iavi

Member
I wouldn't count OT3 out completely. We made it to 10000 posts in a little over 2 weeks, that was when the cajupostathon was out of commission, and I'm not going to drop the spring thread till the 28th or so.
 

Jex

Member
I hope Chihayafuru manages to find an emotionally satisfying resting point at least. There are few things I hate as much as a cliffhanger non-ending ruining an otherwise decent show.

Hopefully it will end in the middle of a tense Karuta match and we'll never know who won.

LOST.
 

Narag

Member
Well who doesn't get excited for SUPER ALLOY-Z! That scene is one of many that's entirely sold off the back of the narrator being incredibly over-the-top. He's one of the few who could possibly rival the Kaiji narrator.

I'm a sucker for narrators like that. Time to wach Kaiji.
 

Geneijin

Member
Yunoha's
was one of the more blatent in that
she was perma invisible throughout the whole of episode 1-6, then opened up more from 7 onwards by making her visible to transparent,
latest episode shows how she started out as you say.
It was literally a character introduction episode for Yunoha to enter the main cast. Remember what most of the episode was about. Notice the only reason she reveals herself is to fix a misunderstanding in the love triangle but not any form of character development on her part.
 

Narag

Member
Shin Mazinger Z 6

Actual progression to the next day. The last four episodes had been just one fight and I'd wondered if it would've been 26 episodes of the same battle at one point. I mean, I would've been fine with this but I could see others taking issue.

Infinite Stratos 5

Well the eyepatch and
bitchslapping Ichika
made a strong case for liking Laura but given how much I don't really care for the first three girls, I think I'm on Team Char.

Armor Hunter Mellowlink 7

Mysterious intelligence officer remains as hardass as ever. This might be the best dogtag dangle done yet in the show too. Such a fanastic little device used to make Mellowlink's targets aware he's coming for them if a little impractical.
Finding out Mellowlink might have been targetting folk who were under orders themselves is going to throw stuff into disarray!

Thought the Scopedog here had a great sense of mass and balance while dodging that blast.
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iammeiam

Member
Glass Fleet 1-2

This show is pretty ugly in that I don't care for the character designs, and the CGI spaceships are hideous.

I'm also pretty sure the episode starts with Michel claiming there's no wind in space, only to end with Michel's hair blowing in the outer-space breeze.

Plot is kind of blah so far.
 

Jex

Member
Glass Fleet 1-2

This show is pretty ugly in that I don't care for the character designs, and the CGI spaceships are hideous.

I'm also pretty sure the episode starts with Michel claiming there's no wind in space, only to end with Michel's hair blowing in the outer-space breeze.

Plot is kind of blah so far.

Well you see that a certain character brings the wind wherever he goes.
 
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