Mass Effect 3 SPOILER THREAD: LOTS OF SPECULATION FROM EVERYONE
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I'd rather see the reaperized Elcor.
Still waiting for the Elcor version of Hamlet DLC
lastplayed
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Obviously spent a lot of time on Mars...
Karak
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THis is the way I feel. This kind of complex failure is not done without knowledge and warning.
Yeah I would buy a really well done and detailed ending and sort of a crew wrap-up section too. I also hope they can add more crew "events" in the normandy between missions throughout the game. The stuff you run into on there is some of the best moments of the game and I certainly wouldn't be against adding more of those.
Karak
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I am thinking that with the current endings, Mass Effect 4,5,6 just simply wouldn't work. Correct me if I am wrong. But...I mean well maybe they would work but wow sour taste.
Dinosaur Tamer
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I agree. In the few scenes he gets, the Major actually comes of as much more interesting. That's not really that impressive, though. Considering Vega is a (nearly) bald, gorilla-shaped space marine with hobbies like boxing, getting tattoos and mixing up languages to sound cool, who is just shoved down your throat as your new best friend at the start of the game (without any explanation I might add).
Apophenia Overload
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Also he and Garrus would get along and have sniping competitions and be cool bros.
I have 560 Bioware Space Bucks. I'm not getting that cash back. So I personally don't care if they charge for a "good ending", as long as it's better than what we got. Sunk cost and all that.
Even if we have to pay 10 bucks for it take a page from CD Projekt and come out with a ME3 2.0. Take 6 months or more if necessary but go all out and really pull out all the stops and make it show and people will reward you for it even with all the shit that's gone on in the past week.
All Vega was missing was a Yankee fitted and some stories about BK, to be honest.
BuckRobotron
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Brit guy was cool. Only thing that threw me is he looked like my Shep with a bad case of jaundice. Initially thought the graphics engine was choking when rendering my Shep when he was closing the shuttle door...but it wasn't him...lol.
Riposte
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What if James Vega had a british accent and less muscles?
EDIT: If I could change one thing about Mass Effect 3 it would that James Vega steals your love interest and then laughs at you while they go to da club to get some drinks with Jacob.
I really wish some reviewers had been straight up honest with their feelings and opinions rather than suck on Bioware's tits. The end sequence ruined the rest of the game for me, which was so much more a second-rate Gears of War than the previous ME games.
I mean, it's possible but I thought the naming was intentional for biblical reference. Either way there's way more stuff I have gripes with before that.
Mass Effect 3 Enhanced Edition? Why do you have to mention that. It's like shooting me in the leg.
Freeza Under The Shower
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I have to admit this occurred to me as well when I started playing the game. Then again, there are plenty of characters and action to go without any response to it.
wait, what.. ok, this is getting creepy. And yeah, the beam dialogue was weird.
Still, if this is the actual "ending that precedes the real ending as available by DLC", then it's one hell of giant troll.
Dinosaur Tamer
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He would still be that creepy guy that acts like you are best friends while you have no idea who you are talking to.
Apophenia Overload
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Then he'd be Jenkins, the guy from the first ME 1 game who dies in the first mission. Except without the cool beret.
I still think Bioware should've used James Vega both as the typical Gears of War marine but also made him romanceable for gay Shepard, to subvert expectations and make CoD/GoW stereotypical homophobe players uncomfortable. But nope, that's another opportunity ME 3 squanders.
If were gonna dream, might as well dream big.
Karak
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Holy Christ hahahahah.
My wife came home from work right now.
She was at work, a nonprofit learning center. She said that they had her bosses, her co-workers and some of their clients all completely freaking over the games ending. I asked her how they even knew.
She said, "Most of them played or had friends who played or watched the ending." She also said she was surprised that so many people across so many demographics were so 100% fit to be tied about the same thing.
Her favorite was their current teaching advisor with a masters in English who had gone off on all the broken writing conventions, then some kid agreed and here were this 16 year old computer tech and a professor both RAILING against the ending
Awesome. Not going to change anything but...well...damn.
My wife came home from work right now.
She was at work, a nonprofit learning center. She said that they had her bosses, her co-workers and some of their clients all completely freaking over the games ending. I asked her how they even knew.
She said, "Most of them played or had friends who played or watched the ending." She also said she was surprised that so many people across so many demographics were so 100% fit to be tied about the same thing.
Her favorite was their current teaching advisor with a masters in English who had gone off on all the broken writing conventions, then some kid agreed and here were this 16 year old computer tech and a professor both RAILING against the ending
Awesome. Not going to change anything but...well...damn.
Given the fact that Bioware doesn't have CDPRs great track record, I'm going to say pipe dream.
way less of a troll than just having a shitty ending tho
Karak
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Ya all of these are pretty much proven, especially the wakeup(with a building in the background) the growl(and its meaning) and the beam dialogue.
At this point, with fans so desperate to believe the "Indoctrination" theory because it's a warm and fuzzy hope that there's some method to BioWare's seeming madness, assuming there is no "real ending DLC" planned, BioWare could simply adopt this shitpile of an ending as their own original idea ex post in public statements.
And we'd never know.
Just like ME3 properly ended with Shepard and Anderson watching Earth on the Citadel, so too did the 2012 Knicks season properly end before the game in Miami prior to the ASB.
Who are the reapers? EA?
Red Blaster
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duki would you agree that this ending is as disappointing as the 2012 new york knicks duki
no nothing is that disappointing
but it gets close only if the indoctrination theory is wrong
if the indoctrination thing is right then its actually really kind of cool
but as it stands right now its about the same level of ending as the original deus ex or something
same empty, hollow feeling of being kicked in the balls while being spat on
They destroy good game companies to allow for new companies to rise.
Freeza Under The Shower
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correct. But I wouldn't mind if they did anyway, including a Star Wars intro where in a galaxy far, far away a company made a shit ending and then fans wrote them out of it... and so on. Except that the whole 'growl' thing creeps me the fuck out.
Is it really there or is it just background noise / audio goof?
I just beat the game a little while ago. Took some time to reflect on it a bit, watch some youtube comments, and read a couple pages of this thread...
Lots of backlash.
Overall, I enjoyed the game. Sure, it had some parts that annoyed me, some things I didn't like (why does your crew no longer follow you through the Citadel and randomly comment on stuff? Why are there no other space stations or planets for you to go to and explore?) but, it was still Mass Effect.
Most of it was fan service, but I enjoyed it all the same - getting to spend time with characters, listening to them talk with myself and one another, as well as random chatter from NPC's in the Citadel.
Combat was fun, and I think the best weapon in the game is the Geth Shotgun. Fully upgraded, that thing is a beast. Ridiculous range and attack power. I do wish my NPC followers would spend more time obeying my orders and less time running off on their own and dying, though.
Now, once I got to the ending... I thought it was all great. And, while I wasn't fond of the choices at the end, I ultimately chose the middle one. It... wasn't bad. Shephard dies, man and machine become one, and the galaxy is saved. It's not exactly what I wanted (him and Garrus chilling on the beach like they talked about earlier would've been awesome), but it was somewhat satisfying.
Then, I watched the after credits scene and that was just... bad. Some horrible voice over for some random old dude (who calls the kid "my sweet". What the hell?) and some annoying no-name kid in the future.
Being the smart guy I am, I'd copied over my auto save so it didn't get overwritten and went back to watch the other endings like I did in Deus Ex: Human Revolution. But, seeing that all of the endings were pretty much exactly the same, that's where the disappointment set in.
I just wanted some diversity in the endings. They were far too static and no matter which choice you pick, it doesn't really make any difference. The only good one is the center one, cause otherwise artificial life gets wiped out and there's no Edi in the end. And no Geth, who have been rebuilding Tali's world for her people, pretty much.
I have mixed feelings after this. I enjoyed the game, everything kept me firmly entrenched in the world and story through the end, but the lack of diversity in the endings really leaves a bitter taste in my mouth. If only they had given us 3 entirely different endings based on your choices this would have been a perfect ending to the saga, in my opinion.
Lots of backlash.
Overall, I enjoyed the game. Sure, it had some parts that annoyed me, some things I didn't like (why does your crew no longer follow you through the Citadel and randomly comment on stuff? Why are there no other space stations or planets for you to go to and explore?) but, it was still Mass Effect.
Most of it was fan service, but I enjoyed it all the same - getting to spend time with characters, listening to them talk with myself and one another, as well as random chatter from NPC's in the Citadel.
Combat was fun, and I think the best weapon in the game is the Geth Shotgun. Fully upgraded, that thing is a beast. Ridiculous range and attack power. I do wish my NPC followers would spend more time obeying my orders and less time running off on their own and dying, though.
Now, once I got to the ending... I thought it was all great. And, while I wasn't fond of the choices at the end, I ultimately chose the middle one. It... wasn't bad. Shephard dies, man and machine become one, and the galaxy is saved. It's not exactly what I wanted (him and Garrus chilling on the beach like they talked about earlier would've been awesome), but it was somewhat satisfying.
Then, I watched the after credits scene and that was just... bad. Some horrible voice over for some random old dude (who calls the kid "my sweet". What the hell?) and some annoying no-name kid in the future.
Being the smart guy I am, I'd copied over my auto save so it didn't get overwritten and went back to watch the other endings like I did in Deus Ex: Human Revolution. But, seeing that all of the endings were pretty much exactly the same, that's where the disappointment set in.
I just wanted some diversity in the endings. They were far too static and no matter which choice you pick, it doesn't really make any difference. The only good one is the center one, cause otherwise artificial life gets wiped out and there's no Edi in the end. And no Geth, who have been rebuilding Tali's world for her people, pretty much.
I have mixed feelings after this. I enjoyed the game, everything kept me firmly entrenched in the world and story through the end, but the lack of diversity in the endings really leaves a bitter taste in my mouth. If only they had given us 3 entirely different endings based on your choices this would have been a perfect ending to the saga, in my opinion.
Agreed. I honestly cannot see how the Mass Effect series can go forward at this point. To many variables. Unless they reboot it, set it in a whole new Galaxy.
I suppose we could have prequels and such, though.
LOL this is pretty apt.
Apophenia Overload
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Also starring: Gears of War as Cerberus, Cliffy B as the Illusive Man, and Chris Avellone as Javik.
No one but CDPR has that track record, well maybe Valve sometimes.
What do you mean they're proven? The growl can be heard throughout the rest of the scene. They're just the Reapers and the husks.
I don't think anything else is proven.
The best actor plays the best character? I'm okay with this.
Apophenia Overload
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Interplay were the Protheans, after all.
This was the last story with Shepard (well obviously) but not the last game in the universe. I don't think (hope) they will make Mass Effect 4, but in stead make Mass Effect - Title here.
And in 10+ years I would love to see the entire trilogy be remade with updated graphics and fixes and no EA messing with it.. but that's a fools dream~
And in 10+ years I would love to see the entire trilogy be remade with updated graphics and fixes and no EA messing with it.. but that's a fools dream~
Karak
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It all is. Youtube has videos of the building in the background, the beam dialogue, and the growl. All are seen and heard. I am not sure what more proof. Or are we discussing something else? There is alot in the thread.
It reminds me of the time where on the way to work one day, one of the commuters started talking about Mass Effect based on the shirt of another passenger and eventually the discussion went on about what the N7 stood for.
In the next 10 minutes, you had blue and white collar workers as well as students on the way to school, all chipping into the conversation all essentially nerding out about what the who, what, when, where and why of N7 armor.
You're not going to get a remake since ME1 is owned by Microsoft.
Also redoing it would mean Bioware would get rid of the shitty ending, surely.
And since Shepard's story is done and in the end the choices really didn't matter, I don't see people being on board for ME4/whatever since half the fanbase wanted the choices to matter/liked Shepard enough to mold them into "their" character/what they would do in situations.
The problem is that humans are way too ''fresh'' in the galaxy. If I remember correcty, they found Mass Relays like 40 years before ME1, it's a tight period to explore.
They would have to make either a game without humans, a game about the First Contact War or something many years after ME3 events.
Karak
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Honestly currently I would see zero interest in this for me personally. A sequel would need Shepard(he is alive) so that would be unique but possible. But since I got no closure here I would want closure in that. Which would be hard with my squad lightyears away on planet Convenient.
That is just me but I like Shepard and his viewpoint of the world is very interesting to me. And he doesn't need to be killing Reapers to be interesting. I sadly think a good deal of that interest is simply because of having absolutly no closure. It is a very powerful fail-loop.
@ Atrus. Very cool story. Yes that sounds just like what she saw.
I thought it was a little strange how no one was reacting to this scared little kid when the shuttles were being loaded, I was expecting someone to at least help him up into one.
I mean that the growls can be heard regardless of the kid. It doesn't prove that he's indoctrinated. I can, however, accept that the Reapers were trying to indoctrinate him.
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