Ghost_Protocol
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Are we all in agreement that there's no way this game, whatever it ends up being called, will end up being exclusive to PS3?
Final Fantasy Versus XIII was announced in 2006. It is now 2012. These are facts.
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H_Prestige
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Yeah, at least we would get impressions and let our imaginations go from there. Occasionally someone would leak a cell phone video and try to upload it. And I remember some people would even draw the trailer from memory. Crazy shit.
There's only one other system it could go to and that's 360. I can see it going either way. Certainly won't be ported to next gen systems, there wouldn't be any point. Waste of time and money, and this game has already wasted enough of that.
Pachterballs
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this thread and the effort spend to keep it going probably had more man hours put into it than FFvsXIII.
-Pyromaniac-
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I'm not in full agreement with that. Would I be surprised if it were multiplat? Kinda, but only due to development problems. With that said, seems like the type of game they just want OUT.
michaeltraps
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They really are the worst offenders.
On the topic of naming convention: I'm in the camp of not thinking it's completely necessary for the name to change, but I wouldn't AT ALL be surprised if this resurfaced as FFXV. As far as tone and aesthetics go, this is their most Western marketable FF game in a long time and I think they'll want to capitalize on every advantage. Making this a "mainline" FF game would help. Pimping Noctis as this generation's Cloud could go a long way for them, especially grabbing the attention of people that haven't played a FF since the PS1 days. (Young guy in a modern-looking fantasy world with cars) Not to mention it won't be turn based, another plus as far as Western appeal goes.
Meccanical
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It would probably cost more to port it considering the 5-6 long years of PS3 focused development.
Hard to say. Last year's trailer reaffirmed PS3 only, and I had heard back around September that that was indeed still the case.
If a port happens, Nomura probably wouldn't be the one to do it, however. We'll see. People thought DQX was going to go to PS3 but that didn't happen.
And with a custom engine, Versus might be very difficult to port, similar to MGS4. But of course, that's all speculation... it doesn't help that there's been no real news in over a year.
Maybe (scary thought) there isn't much else there for them to talk about?
Meccanical
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Nah, XIII had nothing to talk about.
Going on the trailer alone there's a ton of stuff they could elaborate on.
H_Prestige
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They showed some new direct feed screens to the press last year which apparently looked jaw-dropping, but have withheld them from the public ever since.
I get the impression that Nomura has a lot he wants to show, but management isn't letting him.
As has been the case since before E3 last year.
Meccanical
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I get that feeling as well, I mean he has been ready to talk about this game since last July, he's been trying to give us little tidbits here and there but they are probably cracking down on him for that.
Hopefully this is all to for a major E3 reveal, otherwise I question SE's judgement.
Does it even matter at this point? FF doesn't carry the same cache now, I'd doubt it'll make much of a difference.
I just hope they can develop to PS3's strength and some installs to help the loading. FFXIII-2's loading was atrocious.
Angry Fork
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Like Kagari said about MGS4 I think porting now would be a large problem if the engine was built with PS3 in mind and went too far before any new decisions could be made. If they do put it on other consoles it won't be from Nomura's team imo.
H_Prestige
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SE are such trolls. I wouldn't be surprised if they tease a trailer for a major FF game at this e3 and everyone thinks it's Versus...only for them to reveal it as XIII-3 or something else.
13-2 was poorly optimized all around. FFXIII didn't have those issues, and Versus will definitely have more FMV than 13-2 to help background load.
Meccanical
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The internet will explode.
Like almost as big of a shitstorm as when XIII was announced for Xbox.
michaeltraps
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As big a shitstorm as a cancellation announcement? I honestly wouldn't know how to feel, like realizing your not getting something that never existed.
They will announce the new FFXIV trailer at E3.... don't dream of Versus :/
Meccanical
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Yeah XIII-3.
-Pyromaniac-
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Even if 13 was a good game and 13-2 was pretty good as well, a 3rd would still seem excessive.
The way things are now, huge groannnnn.
Really? Why wouldn't it? I can't see any logical reason it would actually get canned especially when a lot of people (even those who didn't like 13) are curious to see it. Cancelling it at this point would just feel random and out of no where.
Pachterballs
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Meccanical
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Especially sense, you know, the game development is fine.
Management is the reason we aren't seeing anything.
Seven Force
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There's that PS3/Vita title in development from the 1st production department, I think.
Zoe
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He even said that much in an interview a few years ago.
Fire Walk With Me
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If it goes multi-box or exclusive I dont see the news causing a ripple any longer.
michaeltraps
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I could just be a pessimist but - where there's smoke, there's fire. The fact that management is being so hush hush about this scares me. And it COULD just all be marketing and strategic planning that's holding off any announcements. Maybe they're doing exactly what we want and now showing anything until it's ready to be shown.
However, on the flip side, maybe the project is TOO ambitious, I don't know. It wouldn't be the first time a title has been canned because it's taken too long and used up too many resources only to realize it isn't a viable venture. Maybe Nomura's vision just isn't possible this generation and it's taking SE a long time to realize it.
Pessimist, I know. I'm preparing for the worst, hoping for the best.
Don't hurt me!
Meccanical
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You know...it's really weird that they put so much effort into salvaging FF XIV.
Anyone else in the industry would abandon ship.
Anyone else in the industry would abandon ship.
FFXIV is already confirmed for E3
I'm looking forward to seeing 2.0
Yoshida is the man.
charlequin
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There wasn't really a point to it this generation except lingering habits based on Japanese-market patterns. Versus might well be too far in to really futz with, but going forward I think there is basically no chance Square-Enix will follow an exclusive strategy for FF titles.
Meccanical
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I see what you are saying, but we had a trailer last year, and if they had any plans to scrap it trust me it would have been by now.
Hell one of the updates last years talked about how Nomura played through the full world map,towns,dungeons, everything.
Would they really scrap it now that they have the whole damn game in engine already?
H_Prestige
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FFXIV is already confirmed for E3
Well I guess that's that.
FFXIV is already confirmed for E3
Hopefully we can get a date on that.
I was under the impression that XIII-2 did pretty bad in every market, sales wise. Besides the ending of XIII-2, why the hell would Square go through with XIII-3? Hasn't XIII tarnished the series' name enough? I (and many others) wouldn't be surprised if they renamed Versus XIII to XV at this point to try and shed that negative stigma.
XIII-3 just doesn't make sense to me at this point. Is Square just made up of a bunch of fucking trolls? Or am I just reading this wrong and they're making money off these games?
If it becomes FFXV, I say yes, it'll become a multiplat game.
If it stays Versus or gets some other, still not mainline title, maybe.
Meccanical
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They are making money no doubt, but it isn't anything super huge.
Sales are way down compared to the first, and they will be even lower if they go ahead and do a third.
Sales are way down compared to the first, and they will be even lower if they go ahead and do a third.
Looking at the roadmap, they've at least got a new XIV trailer planned for it.
michaeltraps
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Wow, I honestly didn't know that. That makes me feel a bit better.
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MeisaMcCaffrey
Something like TLG can present a lot of challenges, but with this game it's unlikely that its delayed because of that. I think they were concentrating on other projects and developing Versus slowly. They even said last year that the game will enter full production "soon".
Meccanical
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http://www.novacrystallis.com/?p=1648
Source just in case though, I'm telling you the game's nearly done by now.
Goodacre0081
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The Broken Ska Record
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That's quite optimistic.
After the long development time, I'd like to know the behind-the-scenes stuff. Why it's taken so long to come out.
Absolutely agreed. I can't believe they are trying to salvage the game. Like I mentioned at some point in that other super long FF thread I decided to give it a try starting last week because it's so cheap and the first 30 days are free what I am playing now is actually pretty fun and has made changes to feel more like a modern MMO. Which is cool and all but...
I am not sure there is a point, I can't see how they can turn it into something profitable. Perhaps they are hoping to launch the PS3 version and get everyone with an interest to come back for 2.0, but who knows. I know 11 was profitable without having the biggest player base so perhaps in the long term (5+ years down the line after expansions and all those monthly bills) 14 could do something similar.
H_Prestige
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I want to see that DQ8 inspired map.
Meccanical
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Yeah the post-mortem for this game will be amazing.
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