Mass Effect 3 SPOILER THREAD: LOTS OF SPECULATION FROM EVERYONE

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Aside from the ending, was anyone kind of disappointed in the lack of mission structure and variety?

Nearly every mission was just kind of fetch quest with just wave after wave after wave of enemies. I felt like the combat was actually really intrusive in terms of pacing and acted as a lot of filler for game time.

With that said, I think the end of the Geth conflict and Mordin's sacrifice were the only missions I really enjoyed. My favorite parts of the game were Liara's documentary on Shepard in his room and being dudebro's with Garrus on top of the Citadel.
 
My hate for Kai may have been
(probably was)
, but he really comes off as an idiot. I had a wtf moment when he sent me an email after the confrontation on Thessia, it sounded like something slipped into a locker in a highschool movie.

So killing him was one of the many highlights in the game. \o/

Well, apparently he's supposed to be a cocky bastard, so at least he was in character lol.
 
Btw: I though you were cool with the ending?

I am cool with the ending, because people hyped it up to be series destroying, and though I can see their standpoint I don't agree with it. My investment into Mass Effect isn't/wasn't just about seeing Shepard's arc come to fruition (though this was still important), it was enjoying the game as is and, believe or not, I'm one of the people who did. I liked visiting places. I liked the combat. I liked speaking to characters. I liked being caught up in their own smaller stories.

All my problems with the ending are directly linked to the star child and that sequence of events, because it was poorly explained, sloppy on thematics, and hugely restrictive. It didn't make a lot of sense and was woven terribly into the overarching Shepard plot.

But I really loved everything else and that is enough for me to still love the game. I had a lot of fun and despite knowing how it ends, and my choices arguably "meaningless", I can still allow myself to get caught up in Wrex's plight against the genophage, the conflict between the Quarians and Geth, what fate awaits Thane, the fall of Thessia, the indoctrination of Cerberus, and the climax on Earth. I have fun, and that's what matters.

After a reluctant start, EatChildren is slowly turning into one of us.

You know it to be true.

I'll still buy the DLC, the new comic series, and probably watch the anime.

It's too late for me.
 
My hate for Kai may have been
(probably was)
, but he really comes off as an idiot. I had a wtf moment when he sent me an email after the confrontation on Thessia, it sounded like something slipped into a locker in a highschool movie.

So killing him was one of the many highlights in the game. \o/

kai leng was an ineffective enemy. Saren was so much better.
 
My hate for Kai may have been
(probably was)
, but he really comes off as an idiot. I had a wtf moment when he sent me an email after the confrontation on Thessia, it sounded like something slipped into a locker in a highschool movie.

So killing him was one of the many highlights in the game. \o/

It's a pity both his fights are so lame.
 
If there's a future to Mass Effect + Shepard in any games that might come out in the future, Shepard "breathing" during the Destroy ending makes that ending the effective canon ending - just like how your Shepard couldn't make it into ME3 if he died at the end of ME2, ME3's Shepard won't make it into future installments if anything but the Destroy option was chosen.

I guess this is so Bioware doesn't have to turn everything into the hilarious organic+synthetic hybrid including plants.

I can barely accept biotics as being a force substitute, but the goddamn synthetic green explosion thing turning all life into half-robots somehow just destroys all belief I have in the validity of the universe. Just remembering those robotized plants on the planet Joker crashes into makes me rage.
 
Why do we have to say he was indoctrinated? Couldn't he just have been knocked out and hallucinating? Why does it have to be reaper induced?
 
Can I ask what your review of the game was like?
I mean, you mentioned being under embargo and as far as I can tell you're the only critic to continue to stick with this thread in a 'what a fucking waste' kind of way. I don't go around keeping track of who is who though, so I'm just saying something silly now.

I thought the game was pretty fantastic up until the last ten minutes. I basically gave the game a swell review, and then devoted a paragraph to how some of your import choices felt a little pointless and that the ending feels like a total copout for fans who are invested in the series fiction. I think the ending was hilariously bad.

Why do we have to say he was indoctrinated? Couldn't he just have been knocked out and hallucinating? Why does it have to be reaper induced?

because BWARM
 
Heh.

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Holy shit, if I wasn't a believer already I'd be one now.
 
Reading the art book, little tidbit about a cut boss:
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My game glitched and the message to press A to fend off his sword QTE sequence never popped up...do you know how frustrating it was to play that on insanity and not know it was possible to not die instantly?

LOL @ second thing.

As for the Illusive Man and intelligence: why not just have him turn earlier in the game or Banshee style?

The leak has a "Tyrant" creature (some kind of intelligent reaper creature presumably) overlooking the husk facility before they switched it to Cerberus. So TIM being such a creature would not entirely be unexpected.
can't be changed now of course, but while the decision makes sense, it's also kind of lame in a gamey-way, if you know what I mean.
 
Why do we have to say he was indoctrinated? Couldn't he just have been knocked out and hallucinating? Why does it have to be reaper induced?

You mean because he was knocked out he was more susceptible to the visions? Makes sense.
Or just dreaming? Also makes sense. Sad thing is...it makes MORE sense than the damn endings.
 
"Why are you here?"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wlgfryAh0aw&t=16s

"Wake up!"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3o43tVHs-Ns&t=18s

Trippy right? Only available if you 100% ect. ect.

Man, I REALLY want to believe Bioware had the guts to try the indoctrination theory ending. I still think the most likely scenario is Bioware, through a mixture of bad writing, lack of time, and lack of resources slapped together the current ending, but the indoctrination theory is starting to get fleshed out. The Giantbomb post mentioned that during the second or third dream sequence, if you try running away from the child, the voices say your name and Shepard gets reset to follow the boy. If you run away a second time, it is Harbinger's voice saying your name. The little details like that, the eyes, the above post are hard to ignore (even if deep down, I know Bioware didn't plan this out). It would be pretty legendary if this was all planned out though.
 
A part of me doesn't like the 'pre-citadel indoctrination' theory simply because despite being over scripted cinema slosh I was totally hooked on a bloody and broken Shepard stumbling, pistol in hand, to the beam, the walk through the corpse ridden Citadel underworks, and the final confrontation with an indoctrinated TIM desperately trying to regain control. It looked gorgeous and had me completely enthralled.

That being undone doesn't sit right with me.
 
What is this!

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I mean, jesus bioware! We get it, you ruined EDI by making her a sexbot, but c'mon! Was this really needed?

This, so much this. It's okay to make sexy characters every now and then, but this is just plain silly. When she's out of the suit, that part is just flat metal (I swear I checked that after I saw this suit). Did the suit come with a preinstalled camel toe?
 
A part of me doesn't like the 'pre-citadel indoctrination' theory simply because despite being over scripted cinema slosh I was totally hooked on a bloody and broken Shepard stumbling, pistol in hand, to the beam, the walk through the corpse ridden Citadel underworks, and the final confrontation with an indoctrinated TIM desperately trying to regain control. It looked gorgeous and had me completely enthralled.

That being undone doesn't sit right with me.

The TIM and Anderson scenes were great. The scene with Anderson dying then Shepard falling over was when everything goes to hell though.
 
Yeah this part I am actually cool with, and I like the prospect of future games taking place in a completely changed galaxy that has to adapt to no mass relays, etc. It's just too bad everything else about how the ending was handled sucked.

I was fine with the idea too, and in many ways expected it. As I've said, as damning as the relays blowing up is, I'm fine with it, even with the impact that has on all my decisions. It was everything leading up to and causing it that I didn't like.
 
This, so much this. It's okay to make sexy characters every now and then, but this is just plain silly. When she's out of the suit, that part is just flat metal (I swear I checked that after I saw this suit). Did the suit come with a preinstalled camel toe?

Well it is Miranda's old outfit, maybe it just became worn in after her wearing it so much.
 
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