Mass Effect 3 SPOILER THREAD: LOTS OF SPECULATION FROM EVERYONE

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What is this!

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I mean, jesus bioware! We get it, you ruined EDI by making her a sexbot, but c'mon! Was this really needed?

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It's okay, darlingk.
 
It's the easiest way to get Bioware to go back and change it. Without just blatantly pretending what we saw didn't happen.

Yeah, they can pretend they're so artistic and smart, and get money from the dlc, the fans get a proper ending.


win/win


Well, not entirely, but it's the best solution.
 
By the way, if you were wondering what happens when you fake the genophage cure and wrex is alive:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WrAnc...eature=related
That's great.

Ashley isn't around to do your dirty work. Aha.

Credits roll. The end.

And that's how the Mass Effect trilogy ends.
Which is why it's depressing. Mass Effect went out with a bang, but not a very good one.

I'm kind of surprised the anti-indoctrination group isn't throwing out its strongest argument:

Mass Effect Deception.

That turd got by Bioware quality control.
It's all Deception not Indoctrination.
 
No the beam is in a totally different place. In fact...what the fuck is that beam...in the Citadel. For some reason I don't remember.

The beam in London teleports Shepard up to the Citadel, so it could be the same beam, just running through the length of the Citadel itself. Dunno, w/e.
 
half of mass effect runs on bright blue beams guys

next you're going to point out that shepard's autoresponses throughout 3 are indoctrination
 
Maybe he was already there when the reapers moved it?

After the coup with the Citadel on high alert? I mean I guess he could have arrived and just strolled on by indoctrinating anyone who pointed a gun at him. But then there's the whole deal with how he avoided being part of the meat grinder when the Reapers took control. But whatever, there are bigger issues than his appearance.
 
half of mass effect runs on bright blue beams guys

next you're going to point out that shepard's autoresponses throughout 3 are indoctrination

IT ALL MAKES SENSE NOW!!!

The Reapers were controlling Shepard's responses for most of the game, occasionally giving him a chance to give a real response so he wouldn't eventually catch on that he was being controlled. Bioware are geniuses!
 
IT ALL MAKES SENSE NOW!!!

The Reapers were controlling Shepard's responses for most of the game, occasionally giving him a chance to give a real response so he wouldn't eventually catch on that he was being controlled. Bioware are geniuses!

It's like Bioware wanted the player to feel how it was like being indoctrinated. Meta.

Now we just need to fork over more cash to wake up.
 
This is the only thing that I admittedly have no explanation for.
This is the concluding factor that makes me believe the indoctrination theory, as explained here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PZ7bsIpEKIg&list=LLvxtQENDZE_E6H5niIACfuA&index=2&feature=plpp_video

I don't believe it because I desperately want Real Ending DLC, but because the evidence does actually support it and it seems to fit into EA's monetization plan for this game. Even the endgame message SHEPARD IS LEGEND GO BUY DLC LOL seems to support this. Which is even shittier than the WTF ending that is in the game I already paid for.

I like the Mass Effect games because to me they are greater than the sum of their parts. Many of those parts are full of jank but the overall package was entertaining to me. Not so with ME3: the mission structure, no exploration of any kind, the shitty 1 button action mechanic, no holstering of weapon, side missions are "drop probe, get item for random fool you eavesdropped on at Citadel," WTF ending where nothing you did over the 3 games matters, etc. adds up to a shitsandwich of a game that I have no desire to ever play again, whereas I happily replayed ME 1 and 2 several times, receiving 1000 gamerscore for each (no DLC).

We are left with two options: 1. Starchild is real ending, which is ridiculously stupid or 2. Shepard was Indoctrinated, Starchild was his psyche wrestling with Reaper control and BioWare/EA wants to sell us Real Ending DLC, which is even more ridiculously stupid AND insulting.

There is no good result to this, except to sell or trade this POS game ASAP
 
At this point even if they never planned it, they should take what the fans have given them as a life-preserver and run with it and say they meant to do it all along.
 
IT ALL MAKES SENSE NOW!!!

The Reapers were controlling Shepard's responses for most of the game, occasionally giving him a chance to give a real response so he wouldn't eventually catch on that he was being controlled. Bioware are geniuses!

The player is the Reapers, and the vent kid was persuading us (the reapers) to control Shepard.

amirite?
 
You continue to be my favorite poster in this thread.


you can see the beam (as a lens flare) when the crucible docks with the citadel. The area that they are standing in is the (uncontained, which means no atmosphere) area between the citadel and the crucible.
 
This is the concluding factor that makes me believe the indoctrination theory, as explained here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PZ7bsIpEKIg&list=LLvxtQENDZE_E6H5niIACfuA&index=2&feature=plpp_video

I don't believe it because I desperately want Real Ending DLC, but because the evidence does actually support it and it seems to fit into EA's monetization plan for this game. Even the endgame message SHEPARD IS LEGEND GO BUY DLC LOL seems to support this. Which is even shittier than the WTF ending that is in the game I already paid for.

I like the Mass Effect games because to me they are greater than the sum of their parts. Many of those parts are full of jank but the overall package was entertaining to me. Not so with ME3: the mission structure, no exploration of any kind, the shitty 1 button action mechanic, no holstering of weapon, side missions are "drop probe, get item for random fool you eavesdropped on at Citadel," WTF ending where nothing you did over the 3 games matters, etc. adds up to a shitsandwich of a game that I have no desire to ever play again, whereas I happily replayed ME 1 and 2 several times, receiving 1000 gamerscore for each (no DLC).

We are left with two options: 1. Starchild is real ending, which is ridiculously stupid or 2. Shepard was Indoctrinated, Starchild was his psyche wrestling with Reaper control and BioWare/EA wants to sell us Real Ending DLC, which is even more ridiculously stupid AND insulting.

There is no good result to this, except to sell or trade this POS game ASAP

I also brought up the endgame screen a couple days ago in this thread but was shot down quickly being told that's normal. I don't know if it is. That's just what people said.
 
I just finished reading the rest of the Deception summaries.

Turian rickshaws... Level 3 Biotics... toothbrush killings...

Yep, BioWare has absolutely no quality control.
 
Leave to go do more work, and come back to see Sexbot (Sink Washable Va...) and Beam + Wheels imagery.

WHAT HAVE YOU INDONETRIATED
 
at least legion stopped all his interesting and unique "we don't want reaper technology, our way of existence is our strength" nonsense and became sensible by using reaper tech so all the geth Pinocchios could become real little boys
 
at least legion stopped all his interesting and unique "we don't want reaper technology, our way of existence is our strength" nonsense and became sensible by using reaper tech so all the geth Pinocchios could become real little boys
He was gaining individuality.
 
Aside from the ending, was anyone kind of disappointed in the lack of mission structure and variety?

Nearly every mission was just kind of fetch quest with just wave after wave after wave of enemies. I felt like the combat was actually really intrusive in terms of pacing and acted as a lot of filler for game time.
*raises hand*
 
At this point even if they never planned it, they should take what the fans have given them as a life-preserver and run with it and say they meant to do it all along.

At this point if they never planned it the games code is possessed, I mean why are there wheels? why are there wwhhheeeeeelllsssss?
 
The whole Indoctrination theory is akin to how Alice in American McGee's version tries to rationalize the death of her family by constructing an alternate reality she can escape into.

When will Bioware comment or react to the whole shitstorm they're currently in?
 
wait wouldn't shepard be in a vaccum where he was at the citadel controls and at the crucible area?

Yep mentioned before and its outside the energy field that keeps atmosphere in. I personally think Shep knew the ending was coming and just held his breath the entire time to get it fucking over with.
 
This is the concluding factor that makes me believe the indoctrination theory, as explained here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PZ7bsIpEKIg&list=LLvxtQENDZE_E6H5niIACfuA&index=2&feature=plpp_video

I don't believe it because I desperately want Real Ending DLC, but because the evidence does actually support it and it seems to fit into EA's monetization plan for this game. Even the endgame message SHEPARD IS LEGEND GO BUY DLC LOL seems to support this. Which is even shittier than the WTF ending that is in the game I already paid for.

I like the Mass Effect games because to me they are greater than the sum of their parts. Many of those parts are full of jank but the overall package was entertaining to me. Not so with ME3: the mission structure, no exploration of any kind, the shitty 1 button action mechanic, no holstering of weapon, side missions are "drop probe, get item for random fool you eavesdropped on at Citadel," WTF ending where nothing you did over the 3 games matters, etc. adds up to a shitsandwich of a game that I have no desire to ever play again, whereas I happily replayed ME 1 and 2 several times, receiving 1000 gamerscore for each (no DLC).

We are left with two options: 1. Starchild is real ending, which is ridiculously stupid or 2. Shepard was Indoctrinated, Starchild was his psyche wrestling with Reaper control and BioWare/EA wants to sell us Real Ending DLC, which is even more ridiculously stupid AND insulting.

There is no good result to this, except to sell or trade this POS game ASAP

I LIKE THIS LOL
 
I wish I could romance EDI.
 
The whole Indoctrination theory is akin to how Alice in American McGee's version tries to rationalize the death of her family by constructing an alternate reality she can escape into.

When will Bioware comment or react to the whole shitstorm they're currently in?

Well, I mean they have with incredibly sardonic and coy twitter responses. But I wouldn't exactly call that "responding".
 
The whole Indoctrination theory is akin to how Alice in American McGee's version tries to rationalize the death of her family by constructing an alternate reality she can escape into.

When will Bioware comment or react to the whole shitstorm they're currently in?

When everyone else joins us.

Indoctrination isn't so bad guys :D

Also, the whole twitter response, with them saying 'soon, we can talk soon'. Isn't them planning a big reveal, it's them saying soon they will be able to talk spoilers and endings. Some people subbed to the ME twitter feed still haven't finished or even bought the game and they want to give a reasonable amount of time before they make up reasons to fill in the ending plot holes rather than force spoilers into everyone's feeds.
 
The whole Indoctrination theory is akin to how Alice in American McGee's version tries to rationalize the death of her family by constructing an alternate reality she can escape into.

When will Bioware comment or react to the whole shitstorm they're currently in?
When they resort to use the stick up their ass
 
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