Pollux
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It has to be true.
Mass Effect 3 SPOILER THREAD: LOTS OF SPECULATION FROM EVERYONE
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It has to be true.
They both took a Reaper lazer to the face in my save.
Garrus is pretty fucked no matter what happens. He either died from Harbinger's beams or starved to death on the new world.
ElectricBlue187
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Gotta work on that readiness rating LOL
Anyway, going forward I really hope to see some kind of story with the remaining crew on the Normandy or a story that involves them somehow in the future. I don't think Shepard will have anything to do with it regardless of whether she breathes or not
Karak
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I thought so as well but was shot down being told that she can basically say whatever she wants and to ignore her...
The basic premise of the theory is that bbrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
Re-quoting this... there's no doubt in my mind now that Shepard was indoctrinated.
Pollux
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I'm not even listening to her. I'm referring to all the other "evidence" which is rather compelling.
People really see Mako's tires on that 1st picture? Its just 4 circles...Beside the Mako has 3 tires on one side.
Wiggum2007
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Why did they not bring back Jack Wall again?
So they could recycle a third of the games tracks from ME1 and 2?
So they could recycle a third of the games tracks from ME1 and 2?
XANDER CAGE
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So, I'm coming around on this whole "maybe the writers meant Shepard to be hallucinating" thing, thanks to all those obnoxious teasing tweets from the writers.
Thing is, I don't think it makes them good writers, nor do I think it improves the slapdash ending. "Why" is still the biggest question in my mind. To me, it just shows that they think the ending is way cleverer than it actually is.
Thing is, I don't think it makes them good writers, nor do I think it improves the slapdash ending. "Why" is still the biggest question in my mind. To me, it just shows that they think the ending is way cleverer than it actually is.
Takamura-San
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In my ending i think i saw garrus come out of the normandy with Joker and EDI.
Yep. Even if they planned this from the start, it's still awful. They just earn the kudos for having planned it.
Yeah and unless that world has food for both of them he's as good as dead. Him and Tali eat different stuff than everyone else.
FullMetalx
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So did I have a good ending or a bad ending?
-let the geth go extinct
-shot illusive man before he shot Anderson (didn't have full paragon option)
-chose to destroy synthetics
-in the cutscene Normandy was being eaten up by the space matter
-Sheapard, I assume was being blasted away from the aactivation of the Crucible
-Normandy is on a green planet, door slightly opens and then credits roll (I didn't see any characters come out)
-let the geth go extinct
-shot illusive man before he shot Anderson (didn't have full paragon option)
-chose to destroy synthetics
-in the cutscene Normandy was being eaten up by the space matter
-Sheapard, I assume was being blasted away from the aactivation of the Crucible
-Normandy is on a green planet, door slightly opens and then credits roll (I didn't see any characters come out)
bengraven
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Eh.
Look what I wake up to, though. More ME3.
Liara was with me in the final push and she came out of the Normandy.
I kinda like it.
I didnt see anyone come out, I just saw the door slightly open.
Empty Space
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After I saw this one http://i910.photobucket.com/albums/ac305/Lifejumper/heh.jpg I was ready to agree with the theory, but to actually see those wheels you have to take a few steps back and turn its not like its part of the full shot. There's nothing in the environment that would really correspond to how the catalyst area looks except that. A lot of the theories correspond with things like game design choices or environments stuff that could just as easily be attributed to lazy enviroment design choices.
ElectricBlue187
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How do you know about the flora and fauna on the planet?
Besides, the beam on Earth runs through the Citadel, no?
Couldn't it be the same damn beam?
bengraven
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You got one of the "bad" endings then.
EatChildren
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3 > 1 > 2
ME1 still has lots of jank but I admire the more ambitious scope, I miss the Mako, and I still feel it has by far the most concise and developed narrative of all three. ME3 really trims the fat and steers closer to being a shooter, but I feel that results in a more polished product. I love the combat environments, the upgrading system, and the scope of the adventure. The story and writing are quite good given the series and long standing plot arcs, only going truly to shit at the floating platform.
ME2 is ME2. I still love it, but it felt like a transitional phase. It has the direction of ME3, but is far to stripped back in most regards, and has the worst narrative of the three games (though I like all the mini stories). I wish ME3 had more subquesting in levels like ME2, but I can deal without.
ME1 still has lots of jank but I admire the more ambitious scope, I miss the Mako, and I still feel it has by far the most concise and developed narrative of all three. ME3 really trims the fat and steers closer to being a shooter, but I feel that results in a more polished product. I love the combat environments, the upgrading system, and the scope of the adventure. The story and writing are quite good given the series and long standing plot arcs, only going truly to shit at the floating platform.
ME2 is ME2. I still love it, but it felt like a transitional phase. It has the direction of ME3, but is far to stripped back in most regards, and has the worst narrative of the three games (though I like all the mini stories). I wish ME3 had more subquesting in levels like ME2, but I can deal without.
Wiggum2007
Junior Member
What if the planet is dextro-amino acid based, and everyone BUT Garrus and Tali are fucked? Ever think of that!?
I'm okay with that.
It would be awfully convenient for them to crash on a planet that's a 1 stop shop for every known species.
I think if we're hoping for that we're better off hoping the indoctrination theory is correct.
XANDER CAGE
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I asked the same thing and was told "NO!" but I dunno. I think it is.
I agree with pretty much all of this. 3 is still a really fun game.
Empty Space
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I figured as much, I really didn't want to slog through all the side missions anyway.
Plus it felt more fitting for Shepard to die.
Empty Space
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This falls under the lazy category of glowy lights look similar we don't have to make different ones for what amounts to the same visual effect. I really do hate the end of the game and would love if that The Truth DLC is real it sounds cool, but its probably not.
ShockingAlberto
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Okay, this is officially the worst theory.
Vire
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For me personally it goes:
Combat: ME3>ME2>ME1
Story: ME1>ME3>ME2
Characters: ME2>ME3>ME1
Overall: ME3=ME2>ME1
Sorry guys.
Oh well, if he is telling the truth, I'm never buying another product from Bioware and their experiment with these games has been a giant failure. Look forward to hearing about their future 3rd rate shooters with RPG elements. Would this be my anger stage then?
Vire
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Did you bother to read the other stuff?
I'm just compiling everything posted in this thread. The Mako tire thing is probably the least compelling reason and is most likely a coincidence that fans are over analyzing. No harm in that though.
The most compelling reason is showing Shepard alive in the Destroy ending.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YQoTAd4lDcU
Rebel Leader
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ME3 did really trim it down... I like how you can upgrade guns and the weight of the weapons matter
Empty Space
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I can poke holes in everything else if you'd like. I just picked that one because well its the one that caused me to believe if even for a brief moment.
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ME2 above ME3 in characters? What the.... Why do you think this?
Latvian Hitman
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I thought Clint Mansell did an outstanding job. One of the highlights of the game, IMO.
therealminime
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I just replayed the ending and noticed that the two squad mates that get off of the Normandy after it has crashed and join Joker are the two squad mates you bring with you to the final battle on Earth. I find that very strange.
bigace33
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ME2s story was about the characters. M3 is more about the war, which is why you have such a lame cast of characters (in comparison to 1 and 2) to take with you.
Complistic
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You can poke holes in the entire ME plot, what's your point?
The 2 squad mates that pop out at the end are the ones you had the highest "relationship" with.
Further evidence that it's just all in shepard's head.
Vire
Member
The introduction of every major interesting player?
Mordin
The Illusive Man
Miranda
Legion
Thane
Grunt
As well as an expansion on Wrex, Garrus and Tali's character.
The squad setup in ME2 is much better than 3.
ME1 had Wrex and Garrus and that's about it. Kaiden and Ashley were as boring as could be, ME2 expanded on it with a rogues gallery of colorful characters.
Empty Space
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I'd agree with that opinion the Character development in ME2 is very personal and the other two games for the most part are just stuff. I would probably just as easily argue for ME3 though. ME1 was ultimately about world build before anything else and you get to know the characters in far broader strokes.
Following the Indoctrination theory, everything that happens on the citadel is a dream, and as part of that dream Shepard dreams about a best possible outcome that is actually impossible. The two people that get out of the ship in addition to Joker are always your two squadmates, that were with you in your charge to the beam.
UnluckyKate
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Yeah, but 3 did an amazing job with returning characters (Garrus became a god, Mordin was already a legend and got even higher, Thane got a wonderful tribute, etc...)
No, it can be edi
The characters being more tied to the story in 3 is why I would put it ahead of ME2. I just cannot and will not ever be able to care about all their family or friend problems. Even you Garrus, just put a cap in that asshole's head and lets get back to business.
Wiggum2007
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He did like 2 tracks though. Just weird that they decided not to bring back Wall yet ended up reusing a bunch of old tracks.
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