Yeah, Bioware's one attempt to controlling the fan reaction (hinting that Indoctrination was planned all along) has now been proven to be full of crap.
They're now facing the fully operational wrath of the fan base.
Mass Effect 3 SPOILER THREAD: LOTS OF SPECULATION FROM EVERYONE
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Yeah, Bioware's one attempt to controlling the fan reaction (hinting that Indoctrination was planned all along) has now been proven to be full of crap.
They're now facing the fully operational wrath of the fan base.
That's because DA2 was a bad game in its entirety.
ME3 is actually good until the very end
At least from Mars to most of London.
It's not just ME3, It's the unprecidented investment over the course of all 3 games carrying through that's driving this, ironic.
The notes do show though how conceptually vapid and hollow the ending was. Quoting Matrix for thematic inspiration only makes it worse. I don't doubt you're right, though. I just think its not as immature as you're suggesting. Maybe not much more mature, but a least a little bit.
FullMetalx
Banned
Despite the ending, I still think this was my favorite franchise of this generation, probably ever since I am still pretty young.
Gotta say, the reaction to all this is fantastic. I adore watching trainwrecks, and Bioware always seems to supply amazing fan reactions.
I'm glad I was crushed into forgetting about the series after Walters took the reigns on ME2. I'll play this some time in the future (I've read up on the ending, it's what I'd expect from these guys, so it's worth 20$ I suppose) and hope the drama keeps flowing until then. Lovely stuff.
I'm glad I was crushed into forgetting about the series after Walters took the reigns on ME2. I'll play this some time in the future (I've read up on the ending, it's what I'd expect from these guys, so it's worth 20$ I suppose) and hope the drama keeps flowing until then. Lovely stuff.
The writer don't fucking own Mass Effect. Its a piece of IP merchandise. They are not entitled to ruin the ending of the franchise.
OMG
Barack Lesnar
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A fade-to-black with Shepard and Anderson chilling on the ground looking into the stars then closing their eyes and dying would've worked for me... then afterwards even some simple 2D pictures of what happens to your crew.
For example, if Paragon, photos of:
- Garrus and Tali together
- Donnelly and Adams together
- Krogan children running around
- Geth and Taurians shown working together to build a house or something
- A sad Liara (for my game) maybe with an Asari child who she named Shepard
- And then ones for all the other squad members, races and events
This would have accomplished both goals of Shepard dying and closure to all your squad mates and races in the galaxy.
That's all it would have took. That's not even a great ending because they would be all photos and half-assed but it would have been so much better.
For example, if Paragon, photos of:
- Garrus and Tali together
- Donnelly and Adams together
- Krogan children running around
- Geth and Taurians shown working together to build a house or something
- A sad Liara (for my game) maybe with an Asari child who she named Shepard
- And then ones for all the other squad members, races and events
This would have accomplished both goals of Shepard dying and closure to all your squad mates and races in the galaxy.
That's all it would have took. That's not even a great ending because they would be all photos and half-assed but it would have been so much better.
Empty Space
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They closed the Mass Effect 3 Story discussion forum on BSN.
Escape Goat
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Until we indoctrinate BioWare.
The new app "The Last Hours of Mass Effect 3" shows that the current endings were the endings planned by Mac Walters who wanted LOTS OF SPECULATION FROM EVERYONE.
Last Hearth
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Gametrailers released an app that gave insight into the production of the ending of ME3, and the info in there implied that that vague ending was intentional so that people can speculate on their own without being given any definitive answers.
Rebel Leader
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Very much like fallout's epilogue
I would have been cool with that.
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Almost said that. A little lazy for nowadays, sure, but it has far more closure than the turd we got.
That's all it would have took. That's not even a great ending because they would be all photos and half-assed but it would have been so much better.
MisterNugNug
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Zomba13
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I thought that was just from all of the people complaining about how shitty it was?
Did they outright say "No, the indoctrination theory is incorrect"?
The 'Final Hours' app shows the lead writer's rough draft of the ending. All that shit that happened at the end, that's what happens.
The ending was deliberately vague (fucked up) to cause 'lots of speculation'.
EmCeeGramr
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Wow, so the second Mac Walters' motivations for ending the Mass Effect universe like that are revealed, everything blows up and goes wrong and nobody respects him anymore.
He's a Reaper.
He's a Reaper.
Pretty much. I thought the ending with Anderson and Shepard sitting together would have been the perfect place to end the game.
SerArthurDayne
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The last few pages have brought me much laughter and joy. I can always have my pretend ending, at least. And Bioware can get fucked and not have as much (or any) of my money anymore.
If you ask me, every RPGs should have a Fallout New Vegas kind of epilogue.
I made be cheesy, old fashioned, but it works.That's better than Speculation Time.
Rebel Leader
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What part of " LOTS OF SPECULATION FROM EVERYONE" do you not understand
Halo 2 didn't complete the story; it was a cliffhanger. A tad different kind of uproar.
I'm sure Casey will just use the space magic to quell us all.
I hope it never does. The only upside to ME3's ending is this thread.
Empty Space
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Like other people have said the app basically proves it. They wanted the specualtion what they didn't expect was the rage.
Pollux
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Because people were freaking out. Doesn't mean they denied the Indoctrination rumors. #istillbelieve
EatChildren
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Absolutely. It's a cocktail of their particular audience mixed with easily misinterpreted information.
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What? No.
heliosRAzi
Banned
Walters is the Catalyst
Psychoward
Banned
To be fair, I completely agree with the sentence about the end boss.
Its one thing to think that its a ploy for DLC, rushed, or slapped on.
Its another thing to find out it was thought up, planned, and delivered as intended.
Or suicide once they tell him that's the ending, period.
Not with this attitude!
It exploded in their face in full RGB spectrum.
Rebel Leader
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Should of hired Sharp for Y
I give him full credit for that. Look at what happens when you jam an end boss in a game where there is no need for one (BioShock).
Zomba13
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Not sure if this had been posted, made me laugh though, saw on Reddit.
"I discovered a way to unlock new endings in ME3!"
I fucking LOL'd so loud just then. If I hadn't finished my drink there would be water all over my keyboard and monitor.
Empty Space
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I agree if you can't think of a reasonable ends boss that doesn't feel contrived don't have one. I think that's a lot of peoples feeling on the subject in this thread.
heliosRAzi
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"Promising not to make the Mass Effect trilogy end like A, B, C instead he took it upon himself to make it end like R, G, B."
Final bosses are classic good game design staples.
Look at what the alternative was. A super long cutscene with Anderson and TIM talking. Woo, it's not as gamey!
ME2 could have lived without a final boss. ME3 was worse for it.
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