Mass Effect 3 SPOILER THREAD: LOTS OF SPECULATION FROM EVERYONE

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The sad thing is that it truly is an ending that just gets worse the more you think about it.
You really have to let your brain go for a few days.

ME1 - rad soundtrack, omg all dat worldbuilding
ME2 - better action, some neato character dialogue

you can do it!
If someone organizes a let's play ME 1-3 next year, I'd do that.

I swear I hear a weird humming in Liara's room now. Goddammit.
You're only hearing what you want to hear.
 
The sad thing is that it truly is an ending that just gets worse the more you think about it.

For me, as much as the ending I got seemed worse the more I thought about it the real killer was finding out all the endings were so similar. Especially for ppl like me who played all 3 games in such a way as to save every crew member, create every alliance, broker peace between all warring species, complete every side mission etc.
 
I need to start recording my sessions.

So many awkward moments where the camera is looking at nothing, my head is facing the wrong way, or some other crap is happening that just makes me lol.
 
Started a replay, and I think I'm indoctrinated - all I see are those 'signs' that indoctrination theorists warned about. Lol.

Like the first dream sequence, where you meet the vent kid and there's a Reaper growl. I think it's too late for me.

I think I heard a Reaper growl when Anderson and Udina are talking about you at the start of ME1.
 
It... hits the Normandy because it is integrated with AI... which... makes its engines explode somehow?
The Catalyst hit that so hard, the Normandy didn't know which planet it was on.

I think I heard a Reaper growl when Anderson and Udina are talking about you at the start of ME1.
You're going too deep.

We should totally do it. In fact, we should create a template for journal entries, so we can each fill in the templates for each new post we make, to document our progress through the trilogy.
Like a checklist?
 
It... hits the Normandy because it is integrated with AI... which... makes its engines explode somehow?

Sure. Chernobyl blew up because they turned off certain systems as the reactor was running. EDI transmutating could have been a spanner in the works.

Cortez even foreshadows the Normandy's special FTL core (or whatchamacallit) as being susceptible to blowing up when stressed.
 
The Normandy was too integrated with its AI, so when the shockwave altered all the AIs in the galaxy, it hit the Normandy hard.

There's actually an ethical conversation between Donnelly and Engineer Adams in the engine room you can overhear that has you side with one of them about if the Normandy is EDI or if Normandy is its own entity. One of the arguments of of them makes is that ship can operate fully without her and if she was removed from the ship the ship would still function.
 
Forget all this ending crap, the main problem with Mass Effect is that after three games I am still getting stuck in the geometry of the Normandy's cockpit.
 
It's not Mass Effect w/ out Drew Karpyshyn... reading his real reasoning behind the reapers, makes me even more sad. That sounds infinitely more interesting.
 
The Normandy was too integrated with its AI, so when the shockwave altered all the AIs in the galaxy, it hit the Normandy hard.

Doesn't make any sense. The Normandy functions fine without edi. THE AI WENT BONKERS SO THE HULL GOT FUCKED UP AND THE ENGINES EXPLODED.

No. When Edi goes down earlier in the game, the Normandy keeps flying without her.
 
Something like a journal entry template where each poster who is doing the playthrough lists the name of his/her character, and the journal entry number, and then you proceed to post in first person about the updates in your adventure so far.
I've never joined A Let's Play, but I think I understand.

Filled with screenshots (if possible) and "personal notes" those journals would be very nice to read. I'm a little excited about the prospects, even though it's quite a way away.
 
Something like a journal entry template where each poster who is doing the playthrough lists the name of his/her character, and the journal entry number, and then you proceed to post in first person about the updates in your adventure so far.

I'd be up for something like that. Not until I pay 15 bucks for the ending DLC in August though.
 
There's some suspiciously familiar circular vents in some wreckage near the end of Jade Empire now that I think about it....

..and Anders wasn't really possessed, just indoctrinated.

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Sure. Chernobyl blew up because they turned off certain systems as the reactor was running. EDI transmutating could have been a spanner in the works.

Cortez even foreshadows the Normandy's special FTL core (or whatchamacallit) as being susceptible to blowing up when stressed.

Not him... The... other dude. The engineering guy.

Hey, did that part he made you buy do ANYTHING?
 
..and Anders wasn't really possessed, just indoctrinated.

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Didn't you know Mages are just Biotics and Darkspawn are the distant cousins of Krogan. All joking aside Bioware at some point stated the two series were in the same universe.

Edit: I can't find any information to back up my statement I might be a liar sorry.
 
Damn it GAF, I just finished this game an hour or two ago thinking "Hey, that ending wasn't so bad" and now you've convinced me I hated it. Although to be fair, I thought the after credits ending wasn't particularly atrocious.
 
Something like a journal entry template where each poster who is doing the playthrough lists the name of his/her character, and the journal entry number, and then you proceed to post in first person about the updates in your adventure so far.

I like it.
 
I spent 8 hours playing this today and now that I'm done I feel empty inside. After all these years just to have my choices rendered practically meaningless is just too cruel.

I guess it was my fault to expect an ending with flexibility based on my choices...

Ohh the marauder shields meme is making me feel better :)
 
Damn it GAF, I just finished this game an hour or two ago thinking "Hey, that ending wasn't so bad" and now you've convinced me I hated it. Although to be fair, I thought the after credits ending wasn't particularly atrocious.

We are each a nation - independent, free of all weakness. We have no beginning. We have no end. We are infinite. Millions of years after your civilization has been eradicated and forgotten, NeoGAF will endure.
 
We are each a nation - independent, free of all weakness. We have no beginning. We have no end. We are infinite. Millions of years after your civilization has been eradicated and forgotten, NeoGAF will endure.

So according to Keighly's big app, each 'Reaper' was supposed to be a nation of minds from the species that got sludgified.

What a cool fucking idea.
 
We are each a nation - independent, free of all weakness. We have no beginning. We have no end. We are infinite. Millions of years after your civilization has been eradicated and forgotten, NeoGAF will endure.
This should be used in the let's play OP.

So according to Keighly's big app, each 'Reaper' was supposed to be a nation of minds from the species that got sludgified.

What a cool fucking idea.
It is, which is unfortunate. They were faced with death like the current cycle. To end them is very sad.
 
The sad thing is that it truly is an ending that just gets worse the more you think about it.

My anger levels just keep rising. I know I shouldn't get pissed but I've been with the series since day 1 and played through 3 with my first shep.

I think I need to take something :(
 
Whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat?

I had been told this information several times by several different people which I had no reason to doubt. I personally can't find anything that prove my crazy statement and now look like a liar sorry. There are some tenuous links I've seen show up in both games, but thats about it sorry for essentially making shit up.
 
So according to Keighly's big app, each 'Reaper' was supposed to be a nation of minds from the species that got sludgified.

What a cool fucking idea.

The ending as-is, the Catalyst says that the Reapers preserve each species. The Collectors were basically Protheans. They just didn't go all-in with Keighly's idea even though it was set-up in ME2.
 
OOOOOOHHHH SHIIIT! Just got my first blue alien kiss.


(First Mass Effect Game, Shoot me.)

This is sick. Makes me want to try out the first two, even though i know the gameplay will be clunky as balls.
 
The ending as-is, the Catalyst says that the Reapers preserve each species. The Collectors were basically Protheans. They just didn't go all-in with Keighly's idea even though it was set-up in ME2.

At the end of ME2 during the big reaper-fleet reveal, each Reaper looked different from one another.

Concept art backs up the idea even more.

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Didn't you know Mages are just Biotics and Darkspawn are the distant cousins of Krogan. All joking aside Bioware at some point stated the two series were in the same universe.

Edit: I can't find any information to back up my statement I might be a liar sorry.
In a sense. Dragon Age exists in their universe... in the same way it exists in ours: as a video game. Don't think Mass Effect exists in any sense in DA's universe, not unless they seriously decided to make it some crazy (by medieval fantasy standards) work of fiction or something inane.
 
This should be used in the let's play OP.


It is, which is unfortunate. They were faced with death like the current cycle. To end them is very sad.

Which is why Control/Synthesis is the only two choices for a paragon. Really selfish to destroy those earlier civilizations in whatever form they exist now.

SPECULATE: As a biologist "preserving a civilization" inside a shell makes me think of genetic diversity and the function of spores. What if you could take an entire species and preserve them inside a shell until the right conditions for their reinsertion in the ecosystem was available. Someone should give the reapers/catalyst the noble prize in medicine, a biologists dream come true.
 
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