NFL Off-Season Thread: "Eli, Eli, lama sabachthani?"
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darkside31337
Tomodachi wa Mahou
Uh is there a cutoff time of sorts for tonight? I don't want to miss my pick cause my pick was due somewhere between 3 and 7 in the morning. Guess I'll just PM some picks in case.
Squall ASF
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That's right, forgot it didn't make it further last year. Well, no second round for Cards this year so quick and easy I suppose either way. Too bad we can't keep the interest and active picks going to go further but I guess it's hard to pull a fan from every single team on one site. Speaking of which, who do we have for KC? Need to figure that out so we don't waste time when it's their pick.
DeaconKnowledge
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If in doubt, pm me. I won't skip you.
That said, i'll need someone to be a caretaker for me when i'm at work during the day. Future? squicken?
(I'll still check in from time to time to post pm picks but I won't be hovering like I am now.)
Futurevoid is picking for KC.
The major problem with last year's draft is that the real draft started before we finished the second round. We started earlier this year so two rounds should be easier.
Also, knowledge of the talent drops sharply in the second round on, so it was harder to get guys to focus.
BakedPigeon
Banned
Your lucky too get him back. Next season will be interesting.
Futurevoid
Member
2:30am EST cutoff? That should be 11:30pm on the west coast. Plenty late?
Deacon, I can take care of it during the day.
Deacon, I can take care of it during the day.
Squall ASF
Member
Would have been amazing if they were stuck with Kaeper. Oh the lulz we would have had.
BakedPigeon
Banned
one love rasta
Just now saw that. Didn't look like too bad of a deal, and actually makes a lot of sense considering where both teams are at.
TheDrizzlerJ11
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I was thinking this would be the fins pick if he dropped. I don't think we take pass rusher but let's see what Junie's got.
I can't believe you didn't pick up a long snapper!!!
Of what?
3d Chess?
darkside31337
Tomodachi wa Mahou
They'll trade him to some team for a 5th round pick. Broncos will then proceed to give up a 2nd round pick to get him back once Peyton reinjures himself early on in the season.
He has Vikings written all over him.
Maybe counting Call of Duty matches.
Couldn't happen to a better team! I want Slo to embrace Tebowmania!
smokeymicpot
Beat EviLore at pool.
He will be a Packer before being a Viking.
Not a Jellyfish
but I am a sheep
Dolphins just cut Yeremiah Bell, making room for Tebow!
DeaconKnowledge
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ATTENTION LAZY ASSES - TELL US WHY YOU DRAFTED WHO YOU DRAFTED SO I CAN POST THE WRITE UP.
GAF Mock Draft :
Indianapolis (2-14) - LukeSmith, Narag - QB - Andrew Luck
Washington (5-11) - mr2xxx, LiveWire - QB - Robert Griffin III - After trading a king's ransom to the St. Louis Rams, the Washington Redskins clearly believe that Baylor prospect Robert Griffin III, aka "RG3," is the man that can finally give the Skins stability at the quarterback position. Griffin's combination of raw athletic talent, speed, throwing strength and accuracy, field vision (as a passer and a runner), not to mention his visible leadership, charisma and work ethic clearly establish him as a can't-miss prospect. However, there remain some questions about his ability to succeed in his transition from NCAA to NFL. An ACL injury in college lurks as a potential for lingering performance issues given the assumed punishment a players' body will take at the professional level. Having spent the majority of his college career quarterbacking from shotgun/spread formations has some scouts worried whether he can fit into professional offensive schemes requiring 3-step drops and quick reads. Despite this, if ever there was a brighter future for a QB, it may only be for the man likely to be selected right before him--Stanford prospect Andrew Luck. Some even believe RG3's ceiling is potentially higher than Luck's. But let's not forget the NFL Draft history is littered with top-ranked busts, including Washington's own 1994 #3 overall draft pick Heath Shuler--a pick which the Redskins didn't have to trade two more year's worth of 1st round draft picks to acquire.
Minnesota (3-13) - Slo - T - Matt Kalil - The Minnesota Vikings draft Matt Kalil to serve as Christian Ponder's left tackle. The spot is currently held down by Charlie Johnson, but he struggled mightily last season against everyone - he'll move inside to left guard with the arrival of Kalil. The consensus on Matt Kalil amongst pro scouts is that he'll be a twelve year starter, All-Pro - type player, in the mold of Joe Thomas or Jake Long - and not that guy that the Rams drafted a few years back.
Cleveland (4-12) - Wes, hiryu - CB - Morris Claiborne
Tampa Bay (4-12) - I H8 Memes - RB - Trent Richardson - I love everybody criticizing the choice without saying who they'd pick. Reiff, overrated and not what we need on the right side. Blackmon, we are stacked at WR. LB's, C, and secondary, not worth anything higher than a 15. As I said, Bucs need Claiborne. If the real draft goes this way the Bucs are fucked and need to trade back to #13 or later where the players at positions we actually have a need at are slotted.
St. Louis (2-14) - squicken - DT - Dontari Poe
Jacksonville (5-11) - Tamanon - WR - Justin Blackmon - The Jaguars(assuming they don't somehow trade their first for Tebow(dammit)) will select with their pick Justin Blackmon, WR Oklahoma State. Thus ending his NFL career.
Miami (6-10) - Junie12 - QB - Ryan Tannehill - Since the Dolphins whiffed on Flynn, Manning and small hands, I decided to just say fuck it and draft Tannehill in the top 10. I know some Phins fans are probably angry at this pick but hear me out. There is no way that Tannehill will escape top 10 let alone top 15, there is just too many teams desperate for a QB ( looking at you Browns and Chiefs). It's similar to the Ponder pick last year. If you want your guy, then just get HIM! Even though we're not completely sold on him he is not going to cost us a fortune and what we have left to lose? If the guy doesn't work out then fine, we'll just draft a better prospect next year and the year after that until we find our guy! Plus I don't know if we're going to get Tebow or not and I don't want to leave the off-season empty handed at QB so it's better to be safe than sorry
Carolina (6-10) - Bowser - DT - Fletcher Cox - Let's face it - the Panthers were abysmal on defense last season. But it was truly the defensive line (as well as injuries), and particularly the tackle position, that created a ripple effect on the entire defensive unit. The Panthers played two rookie third round picks at DT, and while there were some bright spots, they were few and far between. Both starting DTs didn't offer much in the way of run support OR pass rush, essentially serving as warm bodies in the middle of the line. Cox is a strong, athletic DT (30 repetitions of 225 pounds, 4.79 seconds in the 40-yard dash), but unlike Poe (who is already off the board) and Brockers, has backed up his measurables with his on-field play in his time at Mississippi State (114 total tackles, 24.5 tackles for loss and 8.5 sacks in his career). Also, with the Panthers said to be looking to incorproate more 3-4 looks into the defense this season, Cox's versatility and athleticism should allow him to shift outside to DE when Carolina shifts to 3-4 looks.
Buffalo (6-10) - LJ11 - T - Riley Reiff - I mean there's not much to say, they don't have a LT, so they don't have a choice. Can gamble with Massey or Adams being there in the 2nd but there's a dearth of tackles in this league. Got to take one early.
Kirpatrick, Wright, Perry, Coples are all candidates but you can't stretch the field if you don't have a LT.
Kansas City (7-9) - Futurevoid - OG - David DeCastro - I doubt he drops this far but just in case this is another pic to solidify their offense of line and protect Matt Cassel. DeCastro has all the tools to be a dominant guard in the league.
Seattle (7-9) - Canuck76, Bluemax
Arizona (8-8) - Squall ASF, BakedPigeon
Dallas (8-8) - Sviatoslav
Philadelphia (8-8) - yankeehater, Brinbe, JABEE
New York Jets (8-8) - darkside31337
Cincinnati - from Oakland (8-8) - eznark
San Diego (8-8) - Nightz
Chicago (8-8) - yacobod, cuevas, PhD.
Tennessee (9-7) - The M.O.B, sf2fanatic
Cincinnati* (9-7) - eznark
Cleveland - from Atlanta* (10-6) - Wes, hiryu
Detroit* (10-6) - Doorman, goldlion054, Plinko, beast786, Agent Icebeezy, PhoenixDark
Pittsburgh* (12-4) - DeaconKnowledge, chuckddd, AngmarsKing701
Denver* (8-8) - Godslay
Houston* (10-6) - Vyer
New England - from New Orleans* (13-3) - Dutch Patriot, Alligatorjandro, Case, ActStriker, Bread
Green Bay* (15-1) - eznark, Buckethead, mastershake, TheLegendary, brentech, Greg, wienke
Baltimore* (12-4) - BaltimoreLarry, Nakazato
San Francisco* (13-3) - methodman, FrenchMovieTheme, LevelNth
New England* (13-3) - Dutch Patriot, Alligatorjandro, Case, ActStriker, Bread
New York Giants* (9-7) - Futurevoid, Wellington, Striker, BigAT, The Frankman
ON THE CLOCK - Seattle (7-9) - Canuck76, Bluemax - 12:30 am EDT
GAF Mock Draft :
Indianapolis (2-14) - LukeSmith, Narag - QB - Andrew Luck
Washington (5-11) - mr2xxx, LiveWire - QB - Robert Griffin III - After trading a king's ransom to the St. Louis Rams, the Washington Redskins clearly believe that Baylor prospect Robert Griffin III, aka "RG3," is the man that can finally give the Skins stability at the quarterback position. Griffin's combination of raw athletic talent, speed, throwing strength and accuracy, field vision (as a passer and a runner), not to mention his visible leadership, charisma and work ethic clearly establish him as a can't-miss prospect. However, there remain some questions about his ability to succeed in his transition from NCAA to NFL. An ACL injury in college lurks as a potential for lingering performance issues given the assumed punishment a players' body will take at the professional level. Having spent the majority of his college career quarterbacking from shotgun/spread formations has some scouts worried whether he can fit into professional offensive schemes requiring 3-step drops and quick reads. Despite this, if ever there was a brighter future for a QB, it may only be for the man likely to be selected right before him--Stanford prospect Andrew Luck. Some even believe RG3's ceiling is potentially higher than Luck's. But let's not forget the NFL Draft history is littered with top-ranked busts, including Washington's own 1994 #3 overall draft pick Heath Shuler--a pick which the Redskins didn't have to trade two more year's worth of 1st round draft picks to acquire.
Minnesota (3-13) - Slo - T - Matt Kalil - The Minnesota Vikings draft Matt Kalil to serve as Christian Ponder's left tackle. The spot is currently held down by Charlie Johnson, but he struggled mightily last season against everyone - he'll move inside to left guard with the arrival of Kalil. The consensus on Matt Kalil amongst pro scouts is that he'll be a twelve year starter, All-Pro - type player, in the mold of Joe Thomas or Jake Long - and not that guy that the Rams drafted a few years back.
Cleveland (4-12) - Wes, hiryu - CB - Morris Claiborne
Tampa Bay (4-12) - I H8 Memes - RB - Trent Richardson - I love everybody criticizing the choice without saying who they'd pick. Reiff, overrated and not what we need on the right side. Blackmon, we are stacked at WR. LB's, C, and secondary, not worth anything higher than a 15. As I said, Bucs need Claiborne. If the real draft goes this way the Bucs are fucked and need to trade back to #13 or later where the players at positions we actually have a need at are slotted.
St. Louis (2-14) - squicken - DT - Dontari Poe
Jacksonville (5-11) - Tamanon - WR - Justin Blackmon - The Jaguars(assuming they don't somehow trade their first for Tebow(dammit)) will select with their pick Justin Blackmon, WR Oklahoma State. Thus ending his NFL career.
Miami (6-10) - Junie12 - QB - Ryan Tannehill - Since the Dolphins whiffed on Flynn, Manning and small hands, I decided to just say fuck it and draft Tannehill in the top 10. I know some Phins fans are probably angry at this pick but hear me out. There is no way that Tannehill will escape top 10 let alone top 15, there is just too many teams desperate for a QB ( looking at you Browns and Chiefs). It's similar to the Ponder pick last year. If you want your guy, then just get HIM! Even though we're not completely sold on him he is not going to cost us a fortune and what we have left to lose? If the guy doesn't work out then fine, we'll just draft a better prospect next year and the year after that until we find our guy! Plus I don't know if we're going to get Tebow or not and I don't want to leave the off-season empty handed at QB so it's better to be safe than sorry
Carolina (6-10) - Bowser - DT - Fletcher Cox - Let's face it - the Panthers were abysmal on defense last season. But it was truly the defensive line (as well as injuries), and particularly the tackle position, that created a ripple effect on the entire defensive unit. The Panthers played two rookie third round picks at DT, and while there were some bright spots, they were few and far between. Both starting DTs didn't offer much in the way of run support OR pass rush, essentially serving as warm bodies in the middle of the line. Cox is a strong, athletic DT (30 repetitions of 225 pounds, 4.79 seconds in the 40-yard dash), but unlike Poe (who is already off the board) and Brockers, has backed up his measurables with his on-field play in his time at Mississippi State (114 total tackles, 24.5 tackles for loss and 8.5 sacks in his career). Also, with the Panthers said to be looking to incorproate more 3-4 looks into the defense this season, Cox's versatility and athleticism should allow him to shift outside to DE when Carolina shifts to 3-4 looks.
Buffalo (6-10) - LJ11 - T - Riley Reiff - I mean there's not much to say, they don't have a LT, so they don't have a choice. Can gamble with Massey or Adams being there in the 2nd but there's a dearth of tackles in this league. Got to take one early.
Kirpatrick, Wright, Perry, Coples are all candidates but you can't stretch the field if you don't have a LT.
Kansas City (7-9) - Futurevoid - OG - David DeCastro - I doubt he drops this far but just in case this is another pic to solidify their offense of line and protect Matt Cassel. DeCastro has all the tools to be a dominant guard in the league.
Seattle (7-9) - Canuck76, Bluemax
Arizona (8-8) - Squall ASF, BakedPigeon
Dallas (8-8) - Sviatoslav
Philadelphia (8-8) - yankeehater, Brinbe, JABEE
New York Jets (8-8) - darkside31337
Cincinnati - from Oakland (8-8) - eznark
San Diego (8-8) - Nightz
Chicago (8-8) - yacobod, cuevas, PhD.
Tennessee (9-7) - The M.O.B, sf2fanatic
Cincinnati* (9-7) - eznark
Cleveland - from Atlanta* (10-6) - Wes, hiryu
Detroit* (10-6) - Doorman, goldlion054, Plinko, beast786, Agent Icebeezy, PhoenixDark
Pittsburgh* (12-4) - DeaconKnowledge, chuckddd, AngmarsKing701
Denver* (8-8) - Godslay
Houston* (10-6) - Vyer
New England - from New Orleans* (13-3) - Dutch Patriot, Alligatorjandro, Case, ActStriker, Bread
Green Bay* (15-1) - eznark, Buckethead, mastershake, TheLegendary, brentech, Greg, wienke
Baltimore* (12-4) - BaltimoreLarry, Nakazato
San Francisco* (13-3) - methodman, FrenchMovieTheme, LevelNth
New England* (13-3) - Dutch Patriot, Alligatorjandro, Case, ActStriker, Bread
New York Giants* (9-7) - Futurevoid, Wellington, Striker, BigAT, The Frankman
ON THE CLOCK - Seattle (7-9) - Canuck76, Bluemax - 12:30 am EDT
TheDrizzlerJ11
Member
But Tebow..
Cut Bell? Wow. Just wow. Can this era end already.
Cut Bell? Wow. Just wow. Can this era end already.
lucius
Member
I thought for sure Manning would take much less money and goto the much better team the 49ers. Anyway he made his choice,I am a fan of Manning, but if it backfires for the Broncos it would not bother me. I just think he would have won maybe 2 super bowls with 49ers if he stayed healthy, I don't think Broncos will win it all even with Peyton healthy.
shira
Member
Doesn't matter he's gonna get injured. . . AGAIN
Futurevoid
Member
I don't know why dolphins fans would be mad at taking Tannehill at number 10. I suppose you could consider it a reach but considering that ponder went at the spot he did and I think Tannehill has more talent, I don't see an issue with the pick. In fact, I think the Dolphins make the most sense considering the QB races they've fallen short on.
Miami (6-10) - Junie12 - QB - Ryan Tannehill - Since the Dolphins whiffed on Flynn, Manning and small hands, I decided to just say fuck it and draft Tannehill in the top 10. I know some Phins fans are probably angry at this pick but hear me out. There is no way that Tannehill will escape top 10 let alone top 15, there is just too many teams desperate for a QB ( looking at you Browns and Chiefs). It's similar to the Ponder pick last year. If you want your guy, then just get HIM! Even though we're not completely sold on him he is not going to cost us a fortune and what we have left to lose? If the guy doesn't work out then fine, we'll just draft a better prospect next year and the year after that until we find our guy! Plus I don't know if we're going to get Tebow or not and I don't want to leave the off-season empty handed at QB so it's better to be safe than sorry
Seattle (7-9)
Well as a fellow Fin fan you have my support.
I don't know that the team doesn't think that highly of him, Sherman did coach him last year and knows him best, he also has all the tools he needs, his big problem is that he's very raw having not played very long. Remember that he was a WR for the first 2 years of his college career. I like Tannehill alot and Philbin should be able to coach him up. His biggest problem is that he's proabbly not ready to start so would have to sit a year behind Moore who did well at the end of last year. Our only other real option is to trade down and pick up Brandon Wheeden who is most likely ready to start.
Also no to Tebow. Also I think they have to draft a QB I just can't see Jeff Ireland surviving if he doesn't
greatestjediever
Member
I'm pretty disappointed Peyton didn't sign with the 49ers. They clearly have the best team in the running playing in the worst division (not to mention Peyton has had issues against both SD and Oakland at times). Playing in the NFC West would've been an instant 6 wins a year for the foreseeable future. Not to mention Peyton to Moss could've been beautiful. Then again, once you take out regular season, he would probably have an easier road to the Super Bowl in the AFC then the NFC. Playing against Rodgers/Brees/Eli would be a tough stretch to get through, and undoubtedly he would have to go through them to get there.
Dutch Gronk
Banned
Question is, does Allen know that Ponder is the starter?
To quote Slo "SAXY!"
I love Jared Allen, Vikings you wanna have the 27th pick for Allen ?
TheDrizzlerJ11
Member
With the way this offseason has been going it'd be my guess we're signing Tebow to a 6 year extension.
Buckethead
Banned
Haha Jags taking a WR.
I can't wait until they do that dumb shit ferreal.
I can't wait until they do that dumb shit ferreal.
DeaconKnowledge
Member
Don't worry, Peyton will just continue to lose to Brady/Ben/Rivers like he always has.
BakedPigeon
Banned
wait... dont you mean the cardinals? you scrubs just got back in the mix for the division.
Alligatorjandro
Banned
Poor Dolphins fans.
Futurevoid
Member
Poor Michael Lombardi on NFL network. He's trying to play devils advocate for Tim Tebow while Joey Porter and Warren Sapp basically say they would have no interest in playing for a team that has Tebow as the quarterback. Sapp specifically says you would have to love playing a miserable style of football to be one of Tebows teammates.:jnc
Thats not funny
Other guesses would maybe be Mark Anderson, he'd be a good fit but you think we could just extend long(something we will most likely do anyway) if we needed the extra space. I dunno seems like an odd time to just cut him after you told him a couple of weeks ago you wouldn't
To all the sad 49ers fans, mass speculation says Peyton wanted to work with Elway and go to a team where they would run his Offense. If Denver was willing to run Tebow's offense they would surely happily give Peyton the will to run his system. John Fox specializes in Defense and is happy to work with the quarterback to win. Other teams would not do this.
DeaconKnowledge
Member
Tebow is the 5 year old that kicks your ass at Street Fighter because he just spazzes out on the joystick and psychs you out
Futurevoid
Member
Mendenhall may have played his last snap as a Steeler? From the Pittsburgh Gazette:
http://plus.sites.post-gazette.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=115416
http://plus.sites.post-gazette.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=115416
The Tim Tebow/Miami Dolphins front office double whammy. Get yer pads on, fellas, we're needed in South Beach!
Candidates
CB Dre Kirkpatrick, Alabama
DT Michael Brockers, LSU
DE/DT Quinten Coples, UNC
DT Fletcher Cox, Mississippi State
OG David DeCastro, Stanford
The Pick: DT Fletcher Cox, Mississippi State
Rationale: Let's face it - the Panthers were abysmal on defense last season. But it was truly the defensive line (as well as injuries), and particularly the tackle position, that created a ripple effect on the entire defensive unit. The Panthers played two rookie third round picks at DT, and while there were some bright spots, they were few and far between. Both starting DTs didn't offer much in the way of run support OR pass rush, essentially serving as warm bodies in the middle of the line. Cox is a strong, athletic DT (30 repetitions of 225 pounds, 4.79 seconds in the 40-yard dash), but unlike Poe (who is already off the board) and Brockers, has backed up his measurables with his on-field play in his time at Mississippi State (114 total tackles, 24.5 tackles for loss and 8.5 sacks in his career). Also, with the Panthers said to be looking to incorproate more 3-4 looks into the defense this season, Cox's versatility and athleticism should allow him to shift outside to DE when Carolina shifts to 3-4 looks.
CB Dre Kirkpatrick, Alabama
DT Michael Brockers, LSU
DE/DT Quinten Coples, UNC
DT Fletcher Cox, Mississippi State
OG David DeCastro, Stanford
The Pick: DT Fletcher Cox, Mississippi State
Rationale: Let's face it - the Panthers were abysmal on defense last season. But it was truly the defensive line (as well as injuries), and particularly the tackle position, that created a ripple effect on the entire defensive unit. The Panthers played two rookie third round picks at DT, and while there were some bright spots, they were few and far between. Both starting DTs didn't offer much in the way of run support OR pass rush, essentially serving as warm bodies in the middle of the line. Cox is a strong, athletic DT (30 repetitions of 225 pounds, 4.79 seconds in the 40-yard dash), but unlike Poe (who is already off the board) and Brockers, has backed up his measurables with his on-field play in his time at Mississippi State (114 total tackles, 24.5 tackles for loss and 8.5 sacks in his career). Also, with the Panthers said to be looking to incorproate more 3-4 looks into the defense this season, Cox's versatility and athleticism should allow him to shift outside to DE when Carolina shifts to 3-4 looks.
FrenchMovieTheme
Member
Well of course. He wouldn't be able to walk all over harbs like he has done to every other coach in his career
Do you want in on the draft with me? Lots of Bronco fans in the thread today, no takers on the draft.
Had my eye on him.
It's been a marvelous offseason for Dolphins fans so far!
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