BakedPigeon
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can you link me to the contract deal?
NFL Off-Season Thread: "Eli, Eli, lama sabachthani?"
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can you link me to the contract deal?
twinturbo2
butthurt Heat fan
Somebody tell me that next years QB class is good. Please. Next season is going to be a disaster.
twinturbo2
butthurt Heat fan
Somebody kill me now.
dont worry Matt McFarve will there for you
FrenchMovieTheme
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to garrards or alex's?
here's the link on alex's deal:
www.sanfranciscochronicle.com/alexsmithupdate
Jason's Ultimatum
Member
FALL FLAT FOR MATT!
We have the worst management in NFL history. Fucking Gerrard? Is he even better than Moore?
Sanchez for Jake Long
twinturbo2
butthurt Heat fan
Where's the suicide smiley when you need it?
Squall ASF
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Deacon, can we get a draft update? I'm assuming you told Seattle to go because you have the KC pick via PM but I want to make sure before I post the Arizona pick.
BakedPigeon
Banned
in god we trust
Sviatoslav
Member
Its your guys' pick. KC took Decastro.
BakedPigeon
Banned
i fucking hate you in a good way
Squall ASF
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With the 13th overall pick, the Arizona Cardinals select Guard David DeCastro out of Standford. While the Cardinals greatest need is Left Tackle, there are none available worth reaching for at the 13th pick. The Cardinals have had uncertainty at the RG position for the past few years where Deuce Lutui, the most talented of the bunch, has been in Coach Whiz's doghouse for consistently showing up to camp overweight. Rex Hadnot was just released and newly signed Adam Snyder will be expected to provide depth amongst the line. This leaves a clear opening for DeCastro who is the consensus top Guard prospect in years. It's expected he will be a perennial pro bowler and will make a great contribution towards the project of rebuilding the Cardinals Offensive Line.
Sviatoslav
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As great as Decastro is, he was already picked by Kansas City.
BakedPigeon
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DIVISION CLAIMED, quote it.
FrenchMovieTheme
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alex has gone one-and-done 0 times! I LOVE YOU ALEX!!!
ATTENTION LAZY ASSES - TELL US WHY YOU DRAFTED WHO YOU DRAFTED SO I CAN POST THE WRITE UP.
GAF Mock Draft :
Indianapolis (2-14) - LukeSmith, Narag - QB - Andrew Luck
Washington (5-11) - mr2xxx, LiveWire - QB - Robert Griffin III - After trading a king's ransom to the St. Louis Rams, the Washington Redskins clearly believe that Baylor prospect Robert Griffin III, aka "RG3," is the man that can finally give the Skins stability at the quarterback position. Griffin's combination of raw athletic talent, speed, throwing strength and accuracy, field vision (as a passer and a runner), not to mention his visible leadership, charisma and work ethic clearly establish him as a can't-miss prospect. However, there remain some questions about his ability to succeed in his transition from NCAA to NFL. An ACL injury in college lurks as a potential for lingering performance issues given the assumed punishment a players' body will take at the professional level. Having spent the majority of his college career quarterbacking from shotgun/spread formations has some scouts worried whether he can fit into professional offensive schemes requiring 3-step drops and quick reads. Despite this, if ever there was a brighter future for a QB, it may only be for the man likely to be selected right before him--Stanford prospect Andrew Luck. Some even believe RG3's ceiling is potentially higher than Luck's. But let's not forget the NFL Draft history is littered with top-ranked busts, including Washington's own 1994 #3 overall draft pick Heath Shuler--a pick which the Redskins didn't have to trade two more year's worth of 1st round draft picks to acquire.
Minnesota (3-13) - Slo - T - Matt Kalil - The Minnesota Vikings draft Matt Kalil to serve as Christian Ponder's left tackle. The spot is currently held down by Charlie Johnson, but he struggled mightily last season against everyone - he'll move inside to left guard with the arrival of Kalil. The consensus on Matt Kalil amongst pro scouts is that he'll be a twelve year starter, All-Pro - type player, in the mold of Joe Thomas or Jake Long - and not that guy that the Rams drafted a few years back.
Cleveland (4-12) - Wes, hiryu - CB - Morris Claiborne
Tampa Bay (4-12) - I H8 Memes - RB - Trent Richardson - I love everybody criticizing the choice without saying who they'd pick. Reiff, overrated and not what we need on the right side. Blackmon, we are stacked at WR. LB's, C, and secondary, not worth anything higher than a 15. As I said, Bucs need Claiborne. If the real draft goes this way the Bucs are fucked and need to trade back to #13 or later where the players at positions we actually have a need at are slotted.
St. Louis (2-14) - squicken - DT - Dontari Poe
Jacksonville (5-11) - Tamanon - WR - Justin Blackmon - The Jaguars(assuming they don't somehow trade their first for Tebow(dammit)) will select with their pick Justin Blackmon, WR Oklahoma State. Thus ending his NFL career.
Miami (6-10) - Junie12 - QB - Ryan Tannehill - Since the Dolphins whiffed on Flynn, Manning and small hands, I decided to just say fuck it and draft Tannehill in the top 10. I know some Phins fans are probably angry at this pick but hear me out. There is no way that Tannehill will escape top 10 let alone top 15, there is just too many teams desperate for a QB ( looking at you Browns and Chiefs). It's similar to the Ponder pick last year. If you want your guy, then just get HIM! Even though we're not completely sold on him he is not going to cost us a fortune and what we have left to lose? If the guy doesn't work out then fine, we'll just draft a better prospect next year and the year after that until we find our guy! Plus I don't know if we're going to get Tebow or not and I don't want to leave the off-season empty handed at QB so it's better to be safe than sorry
Carolina (6-10) - Bowser - DT - Fletcher Cox - Let's face it - the Panthers were abysmal on defense last season. But it was truly the defensive line (as well as injuries), and particularly the tackle position, that created a ripple effect on the entire defensive unit. The Panthers played two rookie third round picks at DT, and while there were some bright spots, they were few and far between. Both starting DTs didn't offer much in the way of run support OR pass rush, essentially serving as warm bodies in the middle of the line. Cox is a strong, athletic DT (30 repetitions of 225 pounds, 4.79 seconds in the 40-yard dash), but unlike Poe (who is already off the board) and Brockers, has backed up his measurables with his on-field play in his time at Mississippi State (114 total tackles, 24.5 tackles for loss and 8.5 sacks in his career). Also, with the Panthers said to be looking to incorproate more 3-4 looks into the defense this season, Cox's versatility and athleticism should allow him to shift outside to DE when Carolina shifts to 3-4 looks.
Buffalo (6-10) - LJ11 - T - Riley Reiff - I mean there's not much to say, they don't have a LT, so they don't have a choice. Can gamble with Massey or Adams being there in the 2nd but there's a dearth of tackles in this league. Got to take one early.
Kirpatrick, Wright, Perry, Coples are all candidates but you can't stretch the field if you don't have a LT.
Kansas City (7-9) - Futurevoid - OG - David DeCastro - I doubt he drops this far but just in case this is another pic to solidify their offense of line and protect Matt Cassel. DeCastro has all the tools to be a dominant guard in the league.
Seattle (7-9) - Canuck76, Bluemax - DE - Melvin Ingram - Over the course of the few drafts Seattle has built up their defense, specifically the secondary with good success. While we've been taking on a hard nosed defensive identity, we've established ourselves at covering in the secondary and stopping the run. However our defense hasn't put great pressure on the quarter back. Ingram will change this. An explosive DE who never gives up on a play Ingram is a force to be reckoned with. Pairing him up with our already stout interior run stopping, Ingram is a quarter back hunter, using his quickness and bull rushing to reach the quarter back. One weakness he does have is his reaction time, he's usually the last one off the block. However once he gets going he's a train headed straight for the QB, showing not a lack of speed but simply bad reaction time. Some would argue for Quinton Coples at this spot but i don't think he has the maturity that a rebuilding franchise needs
Arizona (8-8) - Squall ASF, BakedPigeon
Dallas (8-8) - Sviatoslav
Philadelphia (8-8) - yankeehater, Brinbe, JABEE
New York Jets (8-8) - darkside31337
Cincinnati - from Oakland (8-8) - eznark
San Diego (8-8) - Nightz
Chicago (8-8) - yacobod, cuevas, PhD.
Tennessee (9-7) - The M.O.B, sf2fanatic
Cincinnati* (9-7) - eznark
Cleveland - from Atlanta* (10-6) - Wes, hiryu
Detroit* (10-6) - Doorman, goldlion054, Plinko, beast786, Agent Icebeezy, PhoenixDark
Pittsburgh* (12-4) - DeaconKnowledge, chuckddd, AngmarsKing701
Denver* (8-8) - Godslay
Houston* (10-6) - Vyer
New England - from New Orleans* (13-3) - Dutch Patriot, Alligatorjandro, Case, ActStriker, Bread
Green Bay* (15-1) - eznark, Buckethead, mastershake, TheLegendary, brentech, Greg, wienke
Baltimore* (12-4) - BaltimoreLarry, Nakazato
San Francisco* (13-3) - methodman, FrenchMovieTheme, LevelNth
New England* (13-3) - Dutch Patriot, Alligatorjandro, Case, ActStriker, Bread
New York Giants* (9-7) - Futurevoid, Wellington, Striker, BigAT, The Frankman
GAF Mock Draft :
Indianapolis (2-14) - LukeSmith, Narag - QB - Andrew Luck
Washington (5-11) - mr2xxx, LiveWire - QB - Robert Griffin III - After trading a king's ransom to the St. Louis Rams, the Washington Redskins clearly believe that Baylor prospect Robert Griffin III, aka "RG3," is the man that can finally give the Skins stability at the quarterback position. Griffin's combination of raw athletic talent, speed, throwing strength and accuracy, field vision (as a passer and a runner), not to mention his visible leadership, charisma and work ethic clearly establish him as a can't-miss prospect. However, there remain some questions about his ability to succeed in his transition from NCAA to NFL. An ACL injury in college lurks as a potential for lingering performance issues given the assumed punishment a players' body will take at the professional level. Having spent the majority of his college career quarterbacking from shotgun/spread formations has some scouts worried whether he can fit into professional offensive schemes requiring 3-step drops and quick reads. Despite this, if ever there was a brighter future for a QB, it may only be for the man likely to be selected right before him--Stanford prospect Andrew Luck. Some even believe RG3's ceiling is potentially higher than Luck's. But let's not forget the NFL Draft history is littered with top-ranked busts, including Washington's own 1994 #3 overall draft pick Heath Shuler--a pick which the Redskins didn't have to trade two more year's worth of 1st round draft picks to acquire.
Minnesota (3-13) - Slo - T - Matt Kalil - The Minnesota Vikings draft Matt Kalil to serve as Christian Ponder's left tackle. The spot is currently held down by Charlie Johnson, but he struggled mightily last season against everyone - he'll move inside to left guard with the arrival of Kalil. The consensus on Matt Kalil amongst pro scouts is that he'll be a twelve year starter, All-Pro - type player, in the mold of Joe Thomas or Jake Long - and not that guy that the Rams drafted a few years back.
Cleveland (4-12) - Wes, hiryu - CB - Morris Claiborne
Tampa Bay (4-12) - I H8 Memes - RB - Trent Richardson - I love everybody criticizing the choice without saying who they'd pick. Reiff, overrated and not what we need on the right side. Blackmon, we are stacked at WR. LB's, C, and secondary, not worth anything higher than a 15. As I said, Bucs need Claiborne. If the real draft goes this way the Bucs are fucked and need to trade back to #13 or later where the players at positions we actually have a need at are slotted.
St. Louis (2-14) - squicken - DT - Dontari Poe
Jacksonville (5-11) - Tamanon - WR - Justin Blackmon - The Jaguars(assuming they don't somehow trade their first for Tebow(dammit)) will select with their pick Justin Blackmon, WR Oklahoma State. Thus ending his NFL career.
Miami (6-10) - Junie12 - QB - Ryan Tannehill - Since the Dolphins whiffed on Flynn, Manning and small hands, I decided to just say fuck it and draft Tannehill in the top 10. I know some Phins fans are probably angry at this pick but hear me out. There is no way that Tannehill will escape top 10 let alone top 15, there is just too many teams desperate for a QB ( looking at you Browns and Chiefs). It's similar to the Ponder pick last year. If you want your guy, then just get HIM! Even though we're not completely sold on him he is not going to cost us a fortune and what we have left to lose? If the guy doesn't work out then fine, we'll just draft a better prospect next year and the year after that until we find our guy! Plus I don't know if we're going to get Tebow or not and I don't want to leave the off-season empty handed at QB so it's better to be safe than sorry
Carolina (6-10) - Bowser - DT - Fletcher Cox - Let's face it - the Panthers were abysmal on defense last season. But it was truly the defensive line (as well as injuries), and particularly the tackle position, that created a ripple effect on the entire defensive unit. The Panthers played two rookie third round picks at DT, and while there were some bright spots, they were few and far between. Both starting DTs didn't offer much in the way of run support OR pass rush, essentially serving as warm bodies in the middle of the line. Cox is a strong, athletic DT (30 repetitions of 225 pounds, 4.79 seconds in the 40-yard dash), but unlike Poe (who is already off the board) and Brockers, has backed up his measurables with his on-field play in his time at Mississippi State (114 total tackles, 24.5 tackles for loss and 8.5 sacks in his career). Also, with the Panthers said to be looking to incorproate more 3-4 looks into the defense this season, Cox's versatility and athleticism should allow him to shift outside to DE when Carolina shifts to 3-4 looks.
Buffalo (6-10) - LJ11 - T - Riley Reiff - I mean there's not much to say, they don't have a LT, so they don't have a choice. Can gamble with Massey or Adams being there in the 2nd but there's a dearth of tackles in this league. Got to take one early.
Kirpatrick, Wright, Perry, Coples are all candidates but you can't stretch the field if you don't have a LT.
Kansas City (7-9) - Futurevoid - OG - David DeCastro - I doubt he drops this far but just in case this is another pic to solidify their offense of line and protect Matt Cassel. DeCastro has all the tools to be a dominant guard in the league.
Seattle (7-9) - Canuck76, Bluemax - DE - Melvin Ingram - Over the course of the few drafts Seattle has built up their defense, specifically the secondary with good success. While we've been taking on a hard nosed defensive identity, we've established ourselves at covering in the secondary and stopping the run. However our defense hasn't put great pressure on the quarter back. Ingram will change this. An explosive DE who never gives up on a play Ingram is a force to be reckoned with. Pairing him up with our already stout interior run stopping, Ingram is a quarter back hunter, using his quickness and bull rushing to reach the quarter back. One weakness he does have is his reaction time, he's usually the last one off the block. However once he gets going he's a train headed straight for the QB, showing not a lack of speed but simply bad reaction time. Some would argue for Quinton Coples at this spot but i don't think he has the maturity that a rebuilding franchise needs
Arizona (8-8) - Squall ASF, BakedPigeon
Dallas (8-8) - Sviatoslav
Philadelphia (8-8) - yankeehater, Brinbe, JABEE
New York Jets (8-8) - darkside31337
Cincinnati - from Oakland (8-8) - eznark
San Diego (8-8) - Nightz
Chicago (8-8) - yacobod, cuevas, PhD.
Tennessee (9-7) - The M.O.B, sf2fanatic
Cincinnati* (9-7) - eznark
Cleveland - from Atlanta* (10-6) - Wes, hiryu
Detroit* (10-6) - Doorman, goldlion054, Plinko, beast786, Agent Icebeezy, PhoenixDark
Pittsburgh* (12-4) - DeaconKnowledge, chuckddd, AngmarsKing701
Denver* (8-8) - Godslay
Houston* (10-6) - Vyer
New England - from New Orleans* (13-3) - Dutch Patriot, Alligatorjandro, Case, ActStriker, Bread
Green Bay* (15-1) - eznark, Buckethead, mastershake, TheLegendary, brentech, Greg, wienke
Baltimore* (12-4) - BaltimoreLarry, Nakazato
San Francisco* (13-3) - methodman, FrenchMovieTheme, LevelNth
New England* (13-3) - Dutch Patriot, Alligatorjandro, Case, ActStriker, Bread
New York Giants* (9-7) - Futurevoid, Wellington, Striker, BigAT, The Frankman
darkside31337
Tomodachi wa Mahou
Even Arizona's fake front office is incompetent. Taking guys already taken. Come on now.
They're still shaken up about not landing Peyton.
FrenchMovieTheme
Member
lolollllllllllllll
It's called tampering.
BakedPigeon
Banned
Do you guys believe in magic?
gotdamn :me
Futurevoid
Member
Heh, sorry Squall and Cardinals-Gaf.jakncoke said:
KC needs help on that line and considering how run focused they are, he's the perfect fit. If it makes you feel any better, Reif was my first choice to play the RT position for them (a gaping hole). So blame LJ!bahahahha
goldlion054
Member
Contract Talks with Tulloch looking good for Detroit
I guess that means the Curtis Lofton dream is dead, but I only wanted that because I thought Tulloch was gone for sure. BRING ON TULLOCH
I guess that means the Curtis Lofton dream is dead, but I only wanted that because I thought Tulloch was gone for sure. BRING ON TULLOCH
BakedPigeon
Banned
Courtney Upshaw
NihonTiger90
Member
Nooooooooooooooooooooooooo
Also, I'd join in the front office but it's fucking crowded enough already, so I'll just sit in the back of the war room screaming out "OFFENSIVE TACKLE" repeatedly.
Squall ASF
Member
Pffft Futurevoid never posted and no one updated the list. I'm supposed to go back a few pages to see if it's updated there? Assumed it'd be re-posted like earlier today.
Anyway:
With the 13th overall pick, the Arizona Cardinals select LB Courtney Upshaw out of Alabama. While the Cardinals greatest need is addressing the Offensive Line, there are no tackles available worth reaching for at the 13th pick and Guard David DeCastro is off the board. The Cardinals have an upstart in OLB Sam Acho one one side and a rotational player with upside in O'Brien Schofield on the other, but would like to bring in another piece who can provide a pass rush every down at a high level. Upshaw was the Defensive MVP in the BCS Championship game on a very talented Alabama defense and will add another weapon to Ray Horton's young talented defensive unit.
We can drink and yell at them together! Always threatening the return of the paper bags...
goldlion054
Member
You think we arn't already drinking in the draft room? I grabbed a beer before I brought out the draft board, bro!
Sviatoslav
Member
With the 14th overall pick the Dallas Cowboys select CB Dre Kirkpatrick. If anyone watched the Cowboys play last year they would know that they had a porous O-line and a horrible secondary. With Jerrah overpaying a couple scrubs in free agency to fill holes in the O-line and Decastro gone (twice!), the secondary is where the focus will be. Dre Kirkpatrick is the best secondary player available and Jerry has shown he has no problems employing (and facilitating) drug users.
Futurevoid
Member
I wasn't available until now. I sent my picks via PM.
Moore is better than Alex Smith. Be glad your management didn't panic and pay him good money.
Futurevoid
Member
ATTENTION LAZY ASSES - TELL US WHY YOU DRAFTED WHO YOU DRAFTED SO I CAN POST THE WRITE UP.
GAF Mock Draft :
Indianapolis (2-14) - LukeSmith, Narag - QB - Andrew Luck
Washington (5-11) - mr2xxx, LiveWire - QB - Robert Griffin III - After trading a king's ransom to the St. Louis Rams, the Washington Redskins clearly believe that Baylor prospect Robert Griffin III, aka "RG3," is the man that can finally give the Skins stability at the quarterback position. Griffin's combination of raw athletic talent, speed, throwing strength and accuracy, field vision (as a passer and a runner), not to mention his visible leadership, charisma and work ethic clearly establish him as a can't-miss prospect. However, there remain some questions about his ability to succeed in his transition from NCAA to NFL. An ACL injury in college lurks as a potential for lingering performance issues given the assumed punishment a players' body will take at the professional level. Having spent the majority of his college career quarterbacking from shotgun/spread formations has some scouts worried whether he can fit into professional offensive schemes requiring 3-step drops and quick reads. Despite this, if ever there was a brighter future for a QB, it may only be for the man likely to be selected right before him--Stanford prospect Andrew Luck. Some even believe RG3's ceiling is potentially higher than Luck's. But let's not forget the NFL Draft history is littered with top-ranked busts, including Washington's own 1994 #3 overall draft pick Heath Shuler--a pick which the Redskins didn't have to trade two more year's worth of 1st round draft picks to acquire.
Minnesota (3-13) - Slo - T - Matt Kalil - The Minnesota Vikings draft Matt Kalil to serve as Christian Ponder's left tackle. The spot is currently held down by Charlie Johnson, but he struggled mightily last season against everyone - he'll move inside to left guard with the arrival of Kalil. The consensus on Matt Kalil amongst pro scouts is that he'll be a twelve year starter, All-Pro - type player, in the mold of Joe Thomas or Jake Long - and not that guy that the Rams drafted a few years back.
Cleveland (4-12) - Wes, hiryu - CB - Morris Claiborne
Tampa Bay (4-12) - I H8 Memes - RB - Trent Richardson - I love everybody criticizing the choice without saying who they'd pick. Reiff, overrated and not what we need on the right side. Blackmon, we are stacked at WR. LB's, C, and secondary, not worth anything higher than a 15. As I said, Bucs need Claiborne. If the real draft goes this way the Bucs are fucked and need to trade back to #13 or later where the players at positions we actually have a need at are slotted.
St. Louis (2-14) - squicken - DT - Dontari Poe
Jacksonville (5-11) - Tamanon - WR - Justin Blackmon - The Jaguars(assuming they don't somehow trade their first for Tebow(dammit)) will select with their pick Justin Blackmon, WR Oklahoma State. Thus ending his NFL career.
Miami (6-10) - Junie12 - QB - Ryan Tannehill - Since the Dolphins whiffed on Flynn, Manning and small hands, I decided to just say fuck it and draft Tannehill in the top 10. I know some Phins fans are probably angry at this pick but hear me out. There is no way that Tannehill will escape top 10 let alone top 15, there is just too many teams desperate for a QB ( looking at you Browns and Chiefs). It's similar to the Ponder pick last year. If you want your guy, then just get HIM! Even though we're not completely sold on him he is not going to cost us a fortune and what we have left to lose? If the guy doesn't work out then fine, we'll just draft a better prospect next year and the year after that until we find our guy! Plus I don't know if we're going to get Tebow or not and I don't want to leave the off-season empty handed at QB so it's better to be safe than sorry
Carolina (6-10) - Bowser - DT - Fletcher Cox - Let's face it - the Panthers were abysmal on defense last season. But it was truly the defensive line (as well as injuries), and particularly the tackle position, that created a ripple effect on the entire defensive unit. The Panthers played two rookie third round picks at DT, and while there were some bright spots, they were few and far between. Both starting DTs didn't offer much in the way of run support OR pass rush, essentially serving as warm bodies in the middle of the line. Cox is a strong, athletic DT (30 repetitions of 225 pounds, 4.79 seconds in the 40-yard dash), but unlike Poe (who is already off the board) and Brockers, has backed up his measurables with his on-field play in his time at Mississippi State (114 total tackles, 24.5 tackles for loss and 8.5 sacks in his career). Also, with the Panthers said to be looking to incorproate more 3-4 looks into the defense this season, Cox's versatility and athleticism should allow him to shift outside to DE when Carolina shifts to 3-4 looks.
Buffalo (6-10) - LJ11 - T - Riley Reiff - I mean there's not much to say, they don't have a LT, so they don't have a choice. Can gamble with Massey or Adams being there in the 2nd but there's a dearth of tackles in this league. Got to take one early.
Kirpatrick, Wright, Perry, Coples are all candidates but you can't stretch the field if you don't have a LT.
Kansas City (7-9) - Futurevoid - OG - David DeCastro - I doubt he drops this far but just in case this is another pic to solidify their offense of line and protect Matt Cassel. DeCastro has all the tools to be a dominant guard in the league.
Seattle (7-9) - Canuck76, Bluemax - DE - Melvin Ingram - Over the course of the few drafts Seattle has built up their defense, specifically the secondary with good success. While we've been taking on a hard nosed defensive identity, we've established ourselves at covering in the secondary and stopping the run. However our defense hasn't put great pressure on the quarter back. Ingram will change this. An explosive DE who never gives up on a play Ingram is a force to be reckoned with. Pairing him up with our already stout interior run stopping, Ingram is a quarter back hunter, using his quickness and bull rushing to reach the quarter back. One weakness he does have is his reaction time, he's usually the last one off the block. However once he gets going he's a train headed straight for the QB, showing not a lack of speed but simply bad reaction time. Some would argue for Quinton Coples at this spot but i don't think he has the maturity that a rebuilding franchise needs
Arizona (8-8) - Squall ASF, BakedPigeon - LB Courtney Upshaw
Dallas (8-8) - Sviatoslav - CB Dre Kirkpatrick - With the 14th overall pick the Dallas Cowboys select CB Dre Kirkpatrick. If anyone watched the Cowboys play last year they would know that they had a porous O-line and a horrible secondary. With Jerrah overpaying a couple scrubs in free agency to fill holes in the O-line and Decastro gone (twice!), the secondary is where the focus will be. Dre Kirkpatrick is the best secondary player available and Jerry has shown he has no problems employing (and facilitating) drug users.
Philadelphia (8-8) - yankeehater, Brinbe, JABEE
New York Jets (8-8) - darkside31337
Cincinnati - from Oakland (8-8) - eznark
San Diego (8-8) - Nightz
Chicago (8-8) - yacobod, cuevas, PhD.
Tennessee (9-7) - The M.O.B, sf2fanatic
Cincinnati* (9-7) - eznark
Cleveland - from Atlanta* (10-6) - Wes, hiryu
Detroit* (10-6) - Doorman, goldlion054, Plinko, beast786, Agent Icebeezy, PhoenixDark
Pittsburgh* (12-4) - DeaconKnowledge, chuckddd, AngmarsKing701
Denver* (8-8) - Godslay
Houston* (10-6) - Vyer
New England - from New Orleans* (13-3) - Dutch Patriot, Alligatorjandro, Case, ActStriker, Bread
Green Bay* (15-1) - eznark, Buckethead, mastershake, TheLegendary, brentech, Greg, wienke
Baltimore* (12-4) - BaltimoreLarry, Nakazato
San Francisco* (13-3) - methodman, FrenchMovieTheme, LevelNth
New England* (13-3) - Dutch Patriot, Alligatorjandro, Case, ActStriker, Bread
New York Giants* (9-7) - Futurevoid, Wellington, Striker, BigAT, The Frankman
The Eagles are ON THE CLOCK!
GAF Mock Draft :
Indianapolis (2-14) - LukeSmith, Narag - QB - Andrew Luck
Washington (5-11) - mr2xxx, LiveWire - QB - Robert Griffin III - After trading a king's ransom to the St. Louis Rams, the Washington Redskins clearly believe that Baylor prospect Robert Griffin III, aka "RG3," is the man that can finally give the Skins stability at the quarterback position. Griffin's combination of raw athletic talent, speed, throwing strength and accuracy, field vision (as a passer and a runner), not to mention his visible leadership, charisma and work ethic clearly establish him as a can't-miss prospect. However, there remain some questions about his ability to succeed in his transition from NCAA to NFL. An ACL injury in college lurks as a potential for lingering performance issues given the assumed punishment a players' body will take at the professional level. Having spent the majority of his college career quarterbacking from shotgun/spread formations has some scouts worried whether he can fit into professional offensive schemes requiring 3-step drops and quick reads. Despite this, if ever there was a brighter future for a QB, it may only be for the man likely to be selected right before him--Stanford prospect Andrew Luck. Some even believe RG3's ceiling is potentially higher than Luck's. But let's not forget the NFL Draft history is littered with top-ranked busts, including Washington's own 1994 #3 overall draft pick Heath Shuler--a pick which the Redskins didn't have to trade two more year's worth of 1st round draft picks to acquire.
Minnesota (3-13) - Slo - T - Matt Kalil - The Minnesota Vikings draft Matt Kalil to serve as Christian Ponder's left tackle. The spot is currently held down by Charlie Johnson, but he struggled mightily last season against everyone - he'll move inside to left guard with the arrival of Kalil. The consensus on Matt Kalil amongst pro scouts is that he'll be a twelve year starter, All-Pro - type player, in the mold of Joe Thomas or Jake Long - and not that guy that the Rams drafted a few years back.
Cleveland (4-12) - Wes, hiryu - CB - Morris Claiborne
Tampa Bay (4-12) - I H8 Memes - RB - Trent Richardson - I love everybody criticizing the choice without saying who they'd pick. Reiff, overrated and not what we need on the right side. Blackmon, we are stacked at WR. LB's, C, and secondary, not worth anything higher than a 15. As I said, Bucs need Claiborne. If the real draft goes this way the Bucs are fucked and need to trade back to #13 or later where the players at positions we actually have a need at are slotted.
St. Louis (2-14) - squicken - DT - Dontari Poe
Jacksonville (5-11) - Tamanon - WR - Justin Blackmon - The Jaguars(assuming they don't somehow trade their first for Tebow(dammit)) will select with their pick Justin Blackmon, WR Oklahoma State. Thus ending his NFL career.
Miami (6-10) - Junie12 - QB - Ryan Tannehill - Since the Dolphins whiffed on Flynn, Manning and small hands, I decided to just say fuck it and draft Tannehill in the top 10. I know some Phins fans are probably angry at this pick but hear me out. There is no way that Tannehill will escape top 10 let alone top 15, there is just too many teams desperate for a QB ( looking at you Browns and Chiefs). It's similar to the Ponder pick last year. If you want your guy, then just get HIM! Even though we're not completely sold on him he is not going to cost us a fortune and what we have left to lose? If the guy doesn't work out then fine, we'll just draft a better prospect next year and the year after that until we find our guy! Plus I don't know if we're going to get Tebow or not and I don't want to leave the off-season empty handed at QB so it's better to be safe than sorry
Carolina (6-10) - Bowser - DT - Fletcher Cox - Let's face it - the Panthers were abysmal on defense last season. But it was truly the defensive line (as well as injuries), and particularly the tackle position, that created a ripple effect on the entire defensive unit. The Panthers played two rookie third round picks at DT, and while there were some bright spots, they were few and far between. Both starting DTs didn't offer much in the way of run support OR pass rush, essentially serving as warm bodies in the middle of the line. Cox is a strong, athletic DT (30 repetitions of 225 pounds, 4.79 seconds in the 40-yard dash), but unlike Poe (who is already off the board) and Brockers, has backed up his measurables with his on-field play in his time at Mississippi State (114 total tackles, 24.5 tackles for loss and 8.5 sacks in his career). Also, with the Panthers said to be looking to incorproate more 3-4 looks into the defense this season, Cox's versatility and athleticism should allow him to shift outside to DE when Carolina shifts to 3-4 looks.
Buffalo (6-10) - LJ11 - T - Riley Reiff - I mean there's not much to say, they don't have a LT, so they don't have a choice. Can gamble with Massey or Adams being there in the 2nd but there's a dearth of tackles in this league. Got to take one early.
Kirpatrick, Wright, Perry, Coples are all candidates but you can't stretch the field if you don't have a LT.
Kansas City (7-9) - Futurevoid - OG - David DeCastro - I doubt he drops this far but just in case this is another pic to solidify their offense of line and protect Matt Cassel. DeCastro has all the tools to be a dominant guard in the league.
Seattle (7-9) - Canuck76, Bluemax - DE - Melvin Ingram - Over the course of the few drafts Seattle has built up their defense, specifically the secondary with good success. While we've been taking on a hard nosed defensive identity, we've established ourselves at covering in the secondary and stopping the run. However our defense hasn't put great pressure on the quarter back. Ingram will change this. An explosive DE who never gives up on a play Ingram is a force to be reckoned with. Pairing him up with our already stout interior run stopping, Ingram is a quarter back hunter, using his quickness and bull rushing to reach the quarter back. One weakness he does have is his reaction time, he's usually the last one off the block. However once he gets going he's a train headed straight for the QB, showing not a lack of speed but simply bad reaction time. Some would argue for Quinton Coples at this spot but i don't think he has the maturity that a rebuilding franchise needs
Arizona (8-8) - Squall ASF, BakedPigeon - LB Courtney Upshaw
Dallas (8-8) - Sviatoslav - CB Dre Kirkpatrick - With the 14th overall pick the Dallas Cowboys select CB Dre Kirkpatrick. If anyone watched the Cowboys play last year they would know that they had a porous O-line and a horrible secondary. With Jerrah overpaying a couple scrubs in free agency to fill holes in the O-line and Decastro gone (twice!), the secondary is where the focus will be. Dre Kirkpatrick is the best secondary player available and Jerry has shown he has no problems employing (and facilitating) drug users.
Philadelphia (8-8) - yankeehater, Brinbe, JABEE
New York Jets (8-8) - darkside31337
Cincinnati - from Oakland (8-8) - eznark
San Diego (8-8) - Nightz
Chicago (8-8) - yacobod, cuevas, PhD.
Tennessee (9-7) - The M.O.B, sf2fanatic
Cincinnati* (9-7) - eznark
Cleveland - from Atlanta* (10-6) - Wes, hiryu
Detroit* (10-6) - Doorman, goldlion054, Plinko, beast786, Agent Icebeezy, PhoenixDark
Pittsburgh* (12-4) - DeaconKnowledge, chuckddd, AngmarsKing701
Denver* (8-8) - Godslay
Houston* (10-6) - Vyer
New England - from New Orleans* (13-3) - Dutch Patriot, Alligatorjandro, Case, ActStriker, Bread
Green Bay* (15-1) - eznark, Buckethead, mastershake, TheLegendary, brentech, Greg, wienke
Baltimore* (12-4) - BaltimoreLarry, Nakazato
San Francisco* (13-3) - methodman, FrenchMovieTheme, LevelNth
New England* (13-3) - Dutch Patriot, Alligatorjandro, Case, ActStriker, Bread
New York Giants* (9-7) - Futurevoid, Wellington, Striker, BigAT, The Frankman
The Eagles are ON THE CLOCK!
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nope. alex smith had more wins, more yards, better completion %, more TD's, less int's, less fumbles
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No worries, I figured that was the case but didn't see it last I checked (I actually DID look back a few pages to make sure I didn't miss anything and the roster still hadn't been updated) so I asked for an update.
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Smith played more games and played considerably more conservative. Smith only had one more TD, 0.8 % better passing percentage, 4 less ints, and 7 less fumbles. Moore was 6-3 irc. If Smith is better it's by a hair. Miami would be stupid to pay Smith, when they essentially have the same guy already there.
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