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The Hunger Games (Dir. Gary Ross) |OT| May The Odds Be Ever In Your Favor

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It's something that a 142-minute film could feel that hasty, and the funny thing is I wouldn't even turn anyone away and would still recommend it. Many parts of it are well done, I thought.

The film didn't feel hasty at all. If anything, the film really dragged at times. Solo is right, it was emotionally hollow at times, and it had nothing to do with pacing.

Pachterballs: I'm no fan of the vamps either, but this didn't translate well to the screen. But as I said earlier, I'm hardly in the demo for this film or books.
 
That they took a concept so ripe with potential and did nothing but scratch the surface of it. Where was the social commentary and the exploration of the effects of the Games on the participants and society at large? Secondly, I felt that the movie's emotional beats rung out completely hollow with the exception of Rue. Then of less critical damage are the shakey cam and crappy production values.
I would have liked them to delve more into that aspect of the world as well but that's a tough deal. The movie already feels slightly bloated with exposition and that's even with them trying to move things along really quickly. I don't think it elevates the source material but that it effectively represents all the concepts presented by the book.
 
The film didn't feel hasty at all. If anything, the film really dragged at times. Solo is right, it was emotionally hollow at times, and it had nothing to do with pacing.

I suppose. I mean, I had no problem with the pacing of the film itself. Maybe it's not that it's hasty per se, but considering how much Katniss spends the novel justifying and explaining her relationships with people to the reader, the film could have used some extra time to TRY to flesh that out.
 
there was also talk in the books about "poor game/shows for the audience" but it wasn't to do with age. In prior games, they picked a desert with no cover etc and the game consisted of people dehydrating to death and that wasn't good tv. and one year where they didn't give them wood (somewhere urban) and they couldn't start fires and couldn't keep warm and just hid and froze to death (also not good tv). They don't always fight in the same place.

there was also talk after of how these venues later becamse theme park of sorts for the capitol citizenry; where they'd tour the prep chambers and walk around to tour spots where tributes had died.

seriously, not a bad setting/world. certainly superior to sparkly vampies+werewolves.. etc.



seriously. I hope they have an unrated cut. I think that would really fix the emotional/connection issues. By diminishing the violence; they definitely lessened the impact of the movie - its less dangerous. The games are dangerous. I'd love a cut where they don't cut away right away from the violence.
Cato's mauled face;
I really wanted to see but it was literally a 2 second beat.
A unrated cut would help immensely.
 
Really the only part that bothered me was the lack of a R-rating. A hard R would have been more enjoyable to watch.

The social commentary and such
I hope will be touched on more in the second/third movie, so I'm not too annoyed with them not including it in this one
.
 
They could have fit everything they needed into the runtime they have if they edited the bloody thing properly. There were many points during the film where scenes overstayed their welcome.
 
Saw this today after reading the book, and overall really enjoyed it. Stanley Tucci really knocked it out of the park. Loved J. Lawrence as well.
Most points in the novel translated well to screen, but some ideas they didn't flesh out really well included:
tesserae, Peeta's motivation for teaming up with the careers, and the concept of sponsorship.

I hated the liberal use of shaky cam as well. I am not sure why it is necessary to make scenes where people are standing around too blurry to observe with the human eye.
 
Have not seen the movie yet, but #8 pisses me off. Was a very important part for the next book, and was a very powerful moment in the first book.

Kinda surprised to see it left out of the film. It would have added 30 seconds to the film :| Wonder if they shot it and just cut it thinking the film was already too long.

Any word if there might be a directors/extended/uncut version that might be possible for home release?

Also got my ticket to watch it on Monday night. I'd watch it tomorrow but with Mad Men coming back I just couldn't find the time :(
 
It's based on a book for teens. And did you see all the 10 year-olds at the theater?

I know that and I saw them. I just felt the stakes would have felt higher and more palpable had the rating allowed more violence. It felt watered down and therefore the stakes did as well.
 
You gotta love how prior to the games, there is all this foreboding on the importance of finding shelter, finding water etc. Yet once the game starts, it really isn't that big of a deal - to the point where nobody worries about it.

The game basically didn't come across as something that reinforced survival instincts. It instead came across as teen high school drama, where instead of calling each other bitches and assholes, they would cut each other. But all the naive and soppy romance bullshit was still there.
 
I get the distinct impression that Scullibundo didn't care for this film.

What funny is that I actually didn't mind the first half of it. I was completely willing to roll with the film based on the first half that did an okay job of building up to the games. Wasn't great, but was decent enough that I could sit back and go with the ride. But once the games themselves started, I became pretty frustrated with how stupid the movie became in squandering its' potential.
 
the fight scenes were annoying as hell. they just zoomed in so close so you couldn't tell what was going so they could get it bumped down to a PG-13 rating.

i liked it....even though it reminded me of a Disney version of Battle Royale
 
SATURDAY 9:45 PM, 8TH UPDATE… EXCLUSIVE: My sources say this opening weekend’s North American grosses for Lionsgate’s The Hunger Games are likely a humongous $150 million after making $68.2M Friday and $49M Saturday. That would be a record-setter: the 4th all-time biggest opening three-day weekend, beating all the Twilight Saga films but not 2008′s The Dark Knight, and the highest non-sequel opening weekend ever, and the highest March opening weekend ever. The Twilight Saga: New Moon debuted to $142.8M in November 2009, and The Twilight Saga: Breaking Dawn Part 1 opened to $138.1M in November 2011. Numbers refined later tonight.

http://www.deadline.com/2012/03/hunger-games-scores-huge-1-8m-in-australia/
 
Saw this yesterday -- the first half was ok, but what the hell happened during the latter part of the film? Too abrupt and nonsensical post the
announcement that two from the same district can be crowned
. Glad I didn't read the books.
 
You gotta love how prior to the games, there is all this foreboding on the importance of finding shelter, finding water etc. Yet once the game starts, it really isn't that big of a deal - to the point where nobody worries about it.

Wait really? Man I really need to see this movie and see exactly what they screwed up, because the survival portion of the games (IE finding shelter and water) was something driven into the reader by the book at several points, with the Gamemakers also altering the environment to make it even harder on the tributes.
 
I read the book on Monday and loved it. Saw the movie at Midnight on Thursday/Friday and have to say I was disappointed. A rare occasion where a film adaptation was so true to the source material that it actually hurt the movie. The major set pieces were nicely executed but the entire move itself lacked the emotional weight of the book. Great casting and good acting. Just a mediocre balance of character/story development vs. action.

6.5/10
 
Read the books for the first time last weekend, so it's still pretty fresh in my head. I saw the movie today and it just wasn't very good. The second half was rushed and it just felt too much like some twilight bullshit. I felt embarrassed to be in the theater when all the tweens giggled everytime they showed Gale.
 
I'm tired of the whole stolen-from-battle-royale thing.

The fight to the death arena dates as far back as gladiators in the coliseum.

Yup.
The more I read some of these comments the more obvious it seems that some people don't really understand or care about what the movie is trying to be?
I mean having read the books maybe its easy for me to say this? But even my friend who attended a Friday evening screening with me understood.
It seems some just assume to walk into a popcorn slash porn flick about teens killing each other and are upset that its not meeting their expectations? I.e, okay its not a Battle Royal set in America.
I understand people not liking the films or source material but some of these explanations [or lack thereof] are interesting.
 
You gotta love how prior to the games, there is all this foreboding on the importance of finding shelter, finding water etc. Yet once the game starts, it really isn't that big of a deal - to the point where nobody worries about it.

The game basically didn't come across as something that reinforced survival instincts. It instead came across as teen high school drama, where instead of calling each other bitches and assholes, they would cut each other. But all the naive and soppy romance bullshit was still there.

The first thing Catniss goes for is water and she finds shelter high in trees. The careers don't need either because they got all of the supplies. Rue and Thresh must have done a good job with both because they remain hidden long enough to survive awhile. That only leaves the other 3 tributes who survived the initial bloodbath. One latches on with the careers and has his neck snapped when the supplies explode, one is the young girl who dies when she starts a fire, and one is Foxface who survives awhile too.

Just because Haymitch told Peeta and Katniss to find shelter and that water is "their new best friend" doesn't mean the others got the same advice from their mentors. In the training room they were told many of them would die from the elements or infection yet none of them actually did so they must have done a good job with survival.
 
Read the books for the first time last weekend, so it's still pretty fresh in my head. I saw the movie today and it just wasn't very good. The second half was rushed and it just felt too much like some twilight bullshit. I felt embarrassed to be in the theater when all the tweens giggled everytime they showed Gale.
THIS. I wanted to get up and leave. First half was almost good.
 
I'm shocked that it's maintained an 86% on RT. First of all, I think Jennifer Lawrence and Journey to the Center of the Earth boy were fine. The acting wasn't much of an issue, even though Christopher Plummer and Woody Harrelson were sleepwalking through the entire movie.

The movie's issue is that the source material is very flimsy and thin - and, yes, I've read the book. I am personally upset with those of you that would consider this a good work of fiction. We all have different tastes, sure, but K.A. Applegate might as well have written it. The stakes are razor thin. The villains (the Capitol) are arbitrarily and so blatantly evil without anyone within the Capitol (save a fashion designer) blinking. The random genetic wolf/dog shit served no other purpose than to reiterate how darker than dark the villains are. And then the last act - if you can even call it that - was hilariously abrupt.

The biggest fault in the film is that every major narrative element was explained wholesale to the audience. The bread scene didn't need a fifth callout by Peeta himself. Granted, they're apparently selling this to preteens, so maybe that's not the worst tactic to take. But I wasn't exactly expecting Spy Kids when I hopped in the theater.

The cave scene was special levels of dreadful. The cake-making -> world-class special effects artist was also random. I might be recalling this incorrectly, but I thought he just buried himself in mud in the book.

The one thing this movie did was make me despair over the failure of the Golden Compass as a film. I don't like those books either, but the world Pullman created was far, far more interesting than Collins' bizarre Fifth Element/North America world.

On a side note, the movie was full of 10-year-old kids, which made me realize that violence is totally and absolutely acceptable as a social norm, even though tits would have give this movie an R by default. Really strange.
That they took a concept so ripe with potential and did nothing but scratch the surface of it. Where was the social commentary and the exploration of the effects of the Games on the participants and society at large? Secondly, I felt that the movie's emotional beats rung out completely hollow with the exception of Rue. Then of less critical damage are the shakey cam and crappy production values.
Another example of a script sticking too closely to the original materials. The normalcy of violence as a matter of course should have been hit on in the film, but it's not a point made in the first book. Unless you count, "man, this Hunger Games shit is terrible."

Really had a bit of a meta experience realizing that 80% of the crowd was under 15 in a movie about kids murdering each other. And not a single fuck was given.
 
I read the book on Monday and loved it. Saw the movie at Midnight on Thursday/Friday and have to say I was disappointed. A rare occasion where a film adaptation was so true to the source material that it actually hurt the movie. The major set pieces were nicely executed but the entire move itself lacked the emotional weight of the book. Great casting and good acting. Just a mediocre balance of character/story development vs. action.

6.5/10

I think some of the emotional weight was missing because unlike the book you don't have the advantage of being inside the characters heads. And some of the finer details were omitted. I think the dynamic between Peeta and Katniss although well developed for the most part in the film doesn't make as strong of an impression in comparison to reading the book. For instance regarding the bread, the book really makes it clear that
Katniss and her family were on the brink of truly starving to death, the extent of her desperation to find food, her loss of hope, that it was first of many instances that he acted to help her at his own expense, the fact that his act of kindness rekindles that hope of survival and that things can work out for good after all. Oh, and some of the highlights of the novel were the events that take place after the two victors were picked up from the arena. The movie just kind of rushed through that whole portion of the book and left lots of things out.
But even so I still really enjoyed the movie, as a whole it captured the book well.
 
It was good, but I felt it's missing a crucial feeling of the games being a reality show.
I didn't feel that Katniss was trying to appeal the audience when kissing Peeta, where the book clearly implies so.
. Missed a lot of small things in the book, but important enough to make the world more alive.
 
5.5/10 would be my rating of the film.

I went to see this over the weekend expecting it to be a total mess but, ended up enjoying it.
It pretty much symbolized how I view America and much of the world right now, at least on a political level of the 99%.
Dumb, Painful, Out of touch with reality, Rich get Richer, Poor get Poorer, You literally have no control over how the country runs the world, etc

The shaky cam was disorienting but, was only used in certain parts of the movie to give the viewer the feeling of being disoriented. While, they could have found better ways of making things disorienting, it worked for the most part. The CG wasn't the best I've seen by any stretch but, it wasn't terrible. I guess the right word would be that it was inconsistent. Oh yeah, some of the lighting was really harsh like 0 diffusion but, I'm thinking that was on purpose.The feeling the movie gave me after I left the theater was pretty interesting and that's where I have to give the movie respect. It isn't a rip off of Battle Royal or the Running Man. And although the futuristic settings looked like Lady Gaga became God and her period puke fell from the sky to create some of the most laughable fashion the world has ever known, it still fit the movie pretty well.

It's a pretty good movie but, not really something I'd buy the DVD or Blue-ray of unless of course it came with some Jeniffer Lawrence extras, that girl was on fire in the movie, dat ass and all.

Oh, and I haven't read the books so I went in pretty blindly.

Pretty sure I didn't spoil anything either.
 
Read the books for the first time last weekend, so it's still pretty fresh in my head. I saw the movie today and it just wasn't very good. The second half was rushed and it just felt too much like some twilight bullshit. I felt embarrassed to be in the theater when all the tweens giggled everytime they showed Gale.

I laughed everytime they showed Gale. NTR'd so hard.
 
I just got back from seeing the film. I don't know if it's from being in a college town, but holy shit every single showing was sold out. I had to order on fandango 2 hours in advance and by the time I got there for mine, they were all sold out.

Anyway, I overall liked the film. But some stuff that they cut,
like District 11 sending the bread
, just made no real sense.

Also, I understand why they changed the dogs, but it just made them seem pointless. In the book it showed just how deranged the game makers were, here it was just OOOHHH dogs.
 
The fact that you think it had a chance to turn out a good film is laughable to me. I've accepted it's eventual fate, you should do the same.

I never thought it had a chance once Summit bought it, let alone when Hood, Orci and Kurtzman got involved.

The material itself could be a great film. But no, I'm just measuring how exactly how much the film is going to run the property's name through the mud.
 
I saw the movie taking into consideration the possibility that the complains were overly harsh due the nature of the source material, but it was kinda bad, the setup was perfect but the movie felt like a promise that never quite delivered.

Loved Stanley Tucci in it, tho.
 
Liked this movie a lot more than I expected. Acting was solid all around. Love the idea of it, and the world that has been set up. Great pacing, the movie flew by.

My main problems would have to be that the romance feels a little forced at times. Shaky cam got to me too. Damn solid movie, I'll be there for the next 2.
 
I never thought it had a chance once Summit bought it, let alone when Hood, Orci and Kurtzman got involved.

The material itself could be a great film. But no, I'm just measuring how exactly how much the film is going to run the property's name through the mud.

I can't stand those guys.
 
I enjoyed the movie, but one thing that bothered me was that the 1st district kids who trained for the games from a young age were fucking useless at anything but killing. Actually, the fact that it hardly had much of a focus on basic survival was a bit disappointing.

I really liked Katniss's character, though. Also, a couple questions.

1.
Katniss tells Peeta that they should just forget about everything that happened, was she implying that she didn't want to pursue a romantic relationship with Peeta? She was ready to die with him before the announcer dude stopped them.

2.
Announcer dude was locked in the room with the poison berries, was he killed because he let both of them live?
 
1.

yes a little. and. to move on with their lives

2.

yes
but he was fucked either way. They died; no victor; he probably would have died as well
 
I really liked Katniss's character, though. Also, a couple questions.

1.
Katniss tells Peeta that they should just forget about everything that happened, was she implying that she didn't want to pursue a romantic relationship with Peeta? She was ready to die with him before the announcer dude stopped them.

This is one area where not being able to be inside Katniss' head is a problem.
The book makes it extremely clear that her romantic relationship with Peeta is for the cameras. Her personal feelings for him have nothing to do with it, and their relationship is literally forced on her side. The thing with the berries is her calculated risk that the gamesmakers have to have a winner, so they can't let them kill themselves. It's not 'cause she loves him, it's because she's a 'good' person and thinks she's figured out how to let them both survive.

Question 2 was already covered.
 
Just saw the movie and was a little disappointed that it didn't follow the book exactly. A lot of things were skipped over in the movie and it was almost implied that you read the book before seeing it
 
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