I can't see a 155m opening for the Avengers.
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I can't see a 155m opening for the Avengers.
I can. This is a huge event, those trailers play extremely well in theaters. Seeing all these heroes in one movie is playing to both genders and a wide range of ages. Not saying it will, but $155 million isnt impossible for Avengers.
Considering it's one of the two biggest blockbuster movie coming out this summer (the other being The Dark Knight Rises), I'd say $155 million for Avengers will be easily captured. Or should I say easily annihilated!
Eagerly waiting to see the numbers for those two flicks!
People seem to forget The Incredible Hulk, Captain America, & Thor all didn't do that great. None of them crossed 200 million. Only the Iron Man films of the pre-Avengers franchise movies could be considered blockbuster hits. The only way The Avengers can do huge is if people see it as Iron Man 3. No one really cares much about Captain America, Hulk, etc as shown by their past films decent but nothing to write home about box office returns.
All of them did did slightly better than Fantastic Four and well under Superman Returns. That isn't anything to write home about.
All of them did did slightly better than Fantastic Four and well under Superman Returns. That isn't anything to write home about.
Joe Shlabotnik
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I'm going low on Avengers, though I definitely don't think it will bomb. But I feel like Iron Man 2 has pretty much evaporated from the collective conscious, and even RDJ himself has worn out his welcome a bit. And the other pre-Avengers movies did well enough but are hardly big draws. So it's trading largely on the "assembling" hook, which is considerable but easily overestimated.
Agreed. Internet fans are forgetting the lukewarm box office reaction all the non-Iron Man Avenger lead up films got and Iron Man 2 hasn't had the best word of mouth since release.
The Iron Man franchise is the only thing Marvel has going for it right now unless they somehow get back X-Men or Spider-Man.
I thought Thor had a pretty good reception. The thing is that Cap and, especially, Thor are hard sells in comparison to Iron Man. I think the fact Marvel made over 150m with both of them was just fine. I'm not sure about Cap 2, because of the more negative WoM involving it, but I'd expect Thor 2 to make over 200m.
I do think that the 155m is overestimating it though. Superhero movies tend to be overestimated in tracking, so I'll believe it opens that high when it happens.
Yeah Thor didn't do bad but it didn't do great. In this day and age (especially since it was a 3D release) you gotta pass that 200 million barrier domestically to really be a hit for a blockbuster.
The thing is, there is nobody in the movie other than Iron Man that can bring in over 100 mil opening weekend.
The thing is, there is nobody in the movie other than Iron Man that can bring in over 100 mil opening weekend.
People do know who Hulk, Cap and Thor are now from the movies though. The argument here is if the team up aspect will make people, who didn't rush out for the movies starring those three, rush out for this.
It's tough to say, but I kind of agree that Marvel might be overestimating how much draw that will have. Especially when the ads also feature Scarjo and Hawkeye, who I've heard casual moviegoers making fun of for even being there.
lionsgate sold the international distribution rights for 40 million to cut down on the risk of a new franchise so they only really care about domestic box office.
TheKaeptain
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Come one man. There is a meme dedicated to him looking at things...
twinturbo2
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oints to tag::It'll get close, even if it doesn't happen. Avengers is going to be huge.
ViewtifulJC
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I can't believe somebody on NeoGaf DOESN'T know the godfather of Japanese video games himself
Avatar just like Titanic took advantage of being one of the only "it" movies to see at the time. Both had weeks of nothing new being a better draw.
Cameron does that on purpose I think after he saw it work with Titanic
SCULLIBUNDO
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Sherlock II was nothing new?
And I can't believe people are forgetting how much Avatar captured the teenage girl demogrpahic. Did it capture the interest of both sexes? You betcha. But we had face-painting teen girls all over the place raving about the film.
Eh? I recall one or two press photo of that. You dont see teen girls squeeling about jake sully all over youtube.
I am curious on your thoughts why avatar didn't take off as a fan obsession after the release of the film the way star wars did after that initial film came out (merchandise collecting, massive immediate fanboy community).
The film was massive an everyone saw it but cultural impact has been pretty minimal, at least in America as compared to what Star Wars did after 1977.
Where were the endless kids with avatar lunchboxs and backpacks? Where were the kids making their parents buy then avatar toys? Like how it was in '78 after Star Wars. That aspect never happened. At least not here.
SCULLIBUNDO
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I'd say the main reason is that most of the merchandise looked like shit. :lol
Apart from the sideshow collectible-type busts etc, every piece of merchandise created for the film looked like absolute arse.
Fox reallyfucked that up. The almost complete lack of merchandise hurt its ability to have a lasting impact where franchise loyality like this is made for a life time like was the case for Star Wars, with kids.
I mean even today all the kids I know around the age where they'd get obsessed with avatar toys if they existed are way into stuff like star wars the clone wars, bakugan, etc and barely even remember avatar.
SCULLIBUNDO
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You mean you weren't a fan of the Parker Selfridge action figure?
Almost as good as the Sully figure.
The shine of 3D wore off and people realized the movie wasn't that great.
Hype gets you an opening weekend. Not Avatar's 2nd, 3rd, 4th, 5th, 6th and 7th weekends.
Biggest-Geek-Ever
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These are something amazing.
Wrath of the Titans might steal all the men away.
That's next weekend, eh? Hmm, interesting.
No one same would minimize avatars box office impact and success.
You can't really argue though that it's cultural impact has been minimal, especially compared to the first star wars film in the same time span. In 1978 and 1979 nearly every single boy had a star wars backpack, lunch box, action figures, acting out star wars scenes with friends, etc. none of that happened with avatar.
Word, jett.
None of that happens with any movie anymore. This isn't 1977 anymore. Kids these days aren't playing with action figures.
None of that happens with any movie anymore. This isn't 1977 anymore. Kids these days aren't playing with action figures.
He was responding to a post asking why Avatar did that well. I was not commenting on "cultural impact".
That said: 3D. Avatar has revolutionized the industry, which is no small feat.
Biggest-Geek-Ever
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I'd expect it to be the other way around. Wrath is coming off a mediocre predecessor and Hunger Games has great reactions.
As for the other opener next week, Mirror Mirror... At least Huntsman is around to keep the Snow White story alive.
First off it was Sherlock Holmes, not the sequel Game of Shadows
Second did Sherlock come anywhere close to Avatar outside opening week? OK then, point proven it was nothing worthwhile in the grand scheme
In fact Avatar went unchallenged for almost 2 months till Dear John finally dethroned it at #1
Also in case people are misreading, I was merely saying Cameron was smart to schedule it the way he did just like with Titanic. Not that the movie was garbage or trying to give excuses for its gross. With no competition and a good movie it will make a bunch more money
They still have backpacks and lunch boxes with movies/tv shows on them.
I see tons of spider-man, iron man, batman, and star wars clone wars. Never once avatar.
Pachterballs
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SillyEskimo
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SCULLIBUNDO
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It think its going to bomb big time.
Care to make a wager on that?
ohhthegore
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appeals to the twilight with Kristen Stewart
appeals to the man crowd with sexy ass ass Charlize Theron
Joe Shlabotnik
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Yeah I'd buy some stock in Snow White and the Huntsman.
Biggest-Geek-Ever
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Chris Hemsworth eye candy can't hurt either.
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