Halo |OT2| Hyper-Athletic Speed And Mass And Weight and Power

kittens said:
I hate maps where players flock to the middle like sheep -- and then get slaughtered. I'm not saying you're a sheep for liking the map, it's just that the map design makes player behavior so predictable. It's pretty awful.

Edit : I like the idea of the two level, overlapping pathways like that, and I'd like to see it done in a better map.
Click to expand...

Like Asphalt?
 
thezerofire said:
Which one is Think Twice?
Click to expand...

Its a diamond shape with ramps leading to an enclosed, two-level cross-shaped hallway where you can easily jump up and down.

I admit players do just run in without any thought, but I just really enjoy being able to evade and hunt people through the multi-level geometry. I'd love to see something like it in a regular Halo map, I can't think of anything that comes close.


789shadow said:
Like Asphalt?
Click to expand...
Asphalt is fun but it's multi-story approach is much more conventional. Not saying there's anything wrong with that, either--it has to be since it's a BTB map.
 
Fuchsdh said:
Its a diamond shape with ramps leading to an enclosed, two-level cross-shaped hallway where you can easily jump up and down.

I admit players do just run in without any thought, but I just really enjoy being able to evade and hunt people through the multi-level geometry. I'd love to see something like it in a regular Halo map, I can't think of anything that comes close.
Click to expand...

I camped in the center with the Hammer.
 
Fuchsdh said:
Its a diamond shape with ramps leading to an enclosed, two-level cross-shaped hallway where you can easily jump up and down.

I admit players do just run in without any thought, but I just really enjoy being able to evade and hunt people through the multi-level geometry. I'd love to see something like it in a regular Halo map, I can't think of anything that comes close.
Click to expand...
oh yeah. the movement on that map is so awkward
 
789shadow said:
Like Asphalt?
Click to expand...
Yeah, not quite, for the reason Fuchsdh said above.

The only reason I like Asphalt is because I can EMP + blow up vehicles, one of my favorite things to do in Halo. Also, its straight hallways + overabundance of Ghosts = me getting tons of Armor Lock kills. Literally the only map I choose AL, haha.
 
kittens said:
Yeah, not quite, for the reason Fuchsdh said above.

The only reason I like Asphalt is because I can EMP + blow up vehicles, one of my favorite things to do in Halo. Also, its straight hallways + overabundance of Ghosts = me getting tons of Armor Lock kills. Literally the only map I choose AL, haha.
Click to expand...

jSXbCIEJ3iPEA.jpg
 
Risen said:
The only thing it has in common with Epitaph is grey.
Click to expand...

They both have two two-level hallways intersecting with eachother, as well as power weapons that don't suit it. My opinion though.

Honestly Epitaph was so confusing that I forget how it looked sometimes, so perhaps my comparison is a little off
 
Think Twice:

Completely balanced initial spawns
Symmetrical map with 4 bases mirroring one another connected by halls which create good re-spawns and flow
Middle providing interesting and dynamic interactions without the position being overpowered

Doesn't sound much like Epitaph to me...


Weapons available and radar impacts the map negatively, but the structure is well balanced for competitive game play.
 
If the middle passageways weren't so narrow, I probably wouldn't have a problem with it. Too much dropping down mid-1v1. I've never played it without AA's being present, which of course increases the shit factor of any map.
 
Risen said:
Think Twice:

Completely balanced initial spawns
Symmetrical map with 4 bases mirroring one another connected by halls which create good re-spawns and flow
Middle providing interesting and dynamic interactions without the position being overpowered

Doesn't sound much like Epitaph to me...


Weapons available and radar impacts the map negatively, but the structure is well balanced for competitive game play.
Click to expand...

Map is shit.
 
FyreWulff said:
:lol
Click to expand...

LOL all you want O' Halo God... the spawns work better on that map than many of those offered, particularly a map like Pinnacle. They are typically relegated to the bases which offer 3 ways out, one of which has two options. It means those with good knowledge of spawns can still control them, without it being a Narrows type spawn trap with no options.

That's not to say spawns can't and won't get busted... that's a system issue, but the structure does allow the system to work better than many offerings.

Gabotron ES said:
Map is shit.
Click to expand...

Well reasoned... oh wait.
 
Risen said:
LOL all you want O' Halo God... the spawns work better on that map than many of those offered, particularly a map like Pinnacle. They are typically relegated to the bases which offer 3 ways out, one of which has two options. It means those with good knowledge of spawns can still control them, without it being a Narrows type spawn trap with no options.

That's not to say spawns can't and won't get busted... that's a system issue, but the structure does allow the system to work better than many offerings.
Click to expand...

I'd prefer to play on Pinnacle. At least Pinnacle spawns me next to my teammates. Think Twice needs its spawns overhauled. I didn't even know they were that bad until me and Devo tried to play Team Doubles on it. Constantly spawned across the map from each other, the other team was spawned right next to or behind us.. blegh.
 
Risen said:
Now that depends, doesn't it?
Click to expand...

Well, Pinnacle's spawns are pretty horrible, but that's what happens when you try to make a wide open Halo 2 map work in a modern engine that has things like LOS spawn blocking.


edit: by the way, when 343 took over they added Pinnacle back to SWAT. Why? WHY? It at least works when you can't be killed in one shot, the spawncamping is horrendous on that map in that gametype.
 
Ok then, my Forging task is to make a not-shit version of Think Twice? :P

Or do y'all who hate it think that the hall dropdowns/jumpups ruin everything in a team game? (Obviously 1v1 it's a different matter.)


FyreWulff said:
Well, Pinnacle's spawns are pretty horrible, but that's what happens when you try to make a wide open Halo 2 map work in a modern engine that has things like LOS spawn blocking.
Click to expand...

I really want to find an Xbox and see if it was as easy to camp the teleporters in the original. These days if I get the map and my team doesn't really need me I just sit down by rocket spawn with the power weapon as a lure and just obliterate everyone who jumps down from the safety of behind the 'porter.
 
Fuchsdh said:
Ok then, my Forging task is to make a not-shit version of Think Twice? :P

Or do y'all who hate it think that the hall dropdowns/jumpups ruin everything in a team game? (Obviously 1v1 it's a different matter.)
Click to expand...

Did you make the map? It just needs some spawn work. I'll do a writeup once I get back from my vacation. I didn't have a problem with it construction-wise.
 
FyreWulff said:
I didn't even know they were that bad until me and Devo tried to play Team Doubles on it. Constantly spawned across the map from each other, the other team was spawned right next to or behind us.. blegh.
Click to expand...

That's as much a problem with how the system works with doubles than the map? To be clear I was speaking of the map in terms of 4v4...

That's not to say the spawn points couldn't be tweaked for doubles, but likely that would jack with 4's.
 
You must log in or register to reply here.

Similar threads

Halo 4 on an xbox one...
6
10K
Ardamaeus replied
New pc build, help,advice and alot of noob questions
39
19K
V4skunk replied
The Mass Effect Community Thread |OT2|
36 37 38 39 40
2K
205K
Caldain replied
Jurassic World Blue Velociraptor and The Lost World Jurassic Park Review PS1 Review
1
5K
Mochilador replied
Halo and Star Wars are the same universe
0
2K
Pizza replied
Top Bottom