Blackace
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The video form the police station has him being fine but getting the back of his checked...
Family of Florida boy killed by Neighborhood Watch seeks arrest
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Puts more doubt on the "he was treated for his massive wounds" argument.
soundscream
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I still contend that it might have been Martins blood on his head. The Anderson Cooper video posted a couple of pages ago had two women witnesses who say the saw Zimmerman on top of Martin after the shot with his hand on the wound. Then he got up and placedhis hand on his head.
Zimmerman is actually Wolverine. His story checks out.
I know. I just mean it should be allowed.
You keep repeating the coon thing, this is your opinion?
So it's clear that his wounds were definitely not life threatening. Only thing he could claim now was a struggle for the gun, which would have prints on it and would also be Martin defending himself against an armed stalker who was on top of him according to witnesses. They also have what I can only assume is Martin yelling for help since they ruled out Zimmerman.
The media has an agenda here. I agree, but its a irritant to the issues at hand. The incident stands on its own without the racism card though, 100%. The media didn't convince people that it was a race driven shooting. Experience is what is fueling that. That sort of, unsaid black community experience, is what is being lashed at by people posting fake photos of him to cast him in a, what they think, is an alternative light.
There is an attitude that I'm seeing here that the media is coarsening people into feelings over the case because of race. As to say that people simply wouldn't care about a man shooting a kid and not getting arrested. Thats the conclusion that many are accepting. While it may be true for some, its not the driving factor of the campaign to arrest or properly investigate Zimmerman.
Now there is definitely second hand racism coming forward that show that race and stereotypes are very much still alive. Even more than I honestly believed. As the only thing that a urban looking teen proves in this specific instance, is that he did something to deserve what happened to him. That he didn't even look, LOOK, like the photos his parents gave the media.
These are the same people telling the black community to shut the fuck up about stereotypes. Specifically, that if he was white, if he LOOKED different, it wouldn't have happened.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eGuctYqCDvo
decide yerself.
elrechazado
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Good post
Devolution
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There aren't enough fucks to say how I feel about that.
Big Baybee
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Dat comments section.
I have hate exhaustion.
elrechazado
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Case closed boys, end the thread:
ObamaIsGodAwful at 6:32 PM March 31, 2012
Mr. Zimmerman will be a rich man if he pursues civil damages for all of the civil rights violations against him and threats to his life by the media, Sharpton, Jesse Jackson, Al Sharpton all based on his Hispanic ethnicity.
As more facts come out, it is clear Mr. Zimmerman was acting in good faith tending to the legitimate business of his and his neighborhood's security and safety with every right to do so when he was viciously attacked in what has every appearance of attempted first degree premeditated murder by Trayon Martin when circumstances demanded Mr. Zimmerman use deadly force to save his own innocent life.
Those defending Trayvon do so out of anomosity for Whites and Hispanics. Justice demands everyone attacking Mr. Zimmerman and putting him and his family and friends at risk after his valiant ansuccessful effort to save himself from an enraged violent young man pay damages and/or face criminal punishment for their transgressions.
Haha no kidding.
Case closed boys, end the thread:
ObamaIsGodAwful at 6:32 PM March 31, 2012
Mr. Zimmerman will be a rich man if he pursues civil damages for all of the civil rights violations against him and threats to his life by the media, Sharpton, Jesse Jackson, Al Sharpton all based on his Hispanic ethnicity.
As more facts come out, it is clear Mr. Zimmerman was acting in good faith tending to the legitimate business of his and his neighborhood's security and safety with every right to do so when he was viciously attacked in what has every appearance of attempted first degree premeditated murder by Trayon Martin when circumstances demanded Mr. Zimmerman use deadly force to save his own innocent life.
Those defending Trayvon do so out of anomosity for Whites and Hispanics. Justice demands everyone attacking Mr. Zimmerman and putting him and his family and friends at risk after his valiant ansuccessful effort to save himself from an enraged violent young man pay damages and/or face criminal punishment for their transgressions.
I'm about to flip a table.
Bulbo Urethral Baggins
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Case closed boys, end the thread:
ObamaIsGodAwful at 6:32 PM March 31, 2012
Mr. Zimmerman will be a rich man if he pursues civil damages for all of the civil rights violations against him and threats to his life by the media, Sharpton, Jesse Jackson, Al Sharpton all based on his Hispanic ethnicity.
As more facts come out, it is clear Mr. Zimmerman was acting in good faith tending to the legitimate business of his and his neighborhood's security and safety with every right to do so when he was viciously attacked in what has every appearance of attempted first degree premeditated murder by Trayon Martin when circumstances demanded Mr. Zimmerman use deadly force to save his own innocent life.
Those defending Trayvon do so out of anomosity for Whites and Hispanics. Justice demands everyone attacking Mr. Zimmerman and putting him and his family and friends at risk after his valiant ansuccessful effort to save himself from an enraged violent young man pay damages and/or face criminal punishment for their transgressions.
"valiant effort".
Holy shit.
elrechazado
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It's an epic troll or a horrifying glimpse into the maw of pure insanity. Sadly it is probably the latter...
Parallax
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damn.. this is why i need to stop reading comments on news sites
Case closed boys, end the thread:
ObamaIsGodAwful at 6:32 PM March 31, 2012
Mr. Zimmerman will be a rich man if he pursues civil damages for all of the civil rights violations against him and threats to his life by the media, Sharpton, Jesse Jackson, Al Sharpton all based on his Hispanic ethnicity.
As more facts come out, it is clear Mr. Zimmerman was acting in good faith tending to the legitimate business of his and his neighborhood's security and safety with every right to do so when he was viciously attacked in what has every appearance of attempted first degree premeditated murder by Trayon Martin when circumstances demanded Mr. Zimmerman use deadly force to save his own innocent life.
Those defending Trayvon do so out of anomosity for Whites and Hispanics. Justice demands everyone attacking Mr. Zimmerman and putting him and his family and friends at risk after his valiant ansuccessful effort to save himself from an enraged violent young man pay damages and/or face criminal punishment for their transgressions.
fucking really?
Case closed boys, end the thread:
ObamaIsGodAwful at 6:32 PM March 31, 2012
Mr. Zimmerman will be a rich man if he pursues civil damages for all of the civil rights violations against him and threats to his life by the media, Sharpton, Jesse Jackson, Al Sharpton all based on his Hispanic ethnicity.
As more facts come out, it is clear Mr. Zimmerman was acting in good faith tending to the legitimate business of his and his neighborhood's security and safety with every right to do so when he was viciously attacked in what has every appearance of attempted first degree premeditated murder by Trayon Martin when circumstances demanded Mr. Zimmerman use deadly force to save his own innocent life.
Those defending Trayvon do so out of anomosity for Whites and Hispanics. Justice demands everyone attacking Mr. Zimmerman and putting him and his family and friends at risk after his valiant ansuccessful effort to save himself from an enraged violent young man pay damages and/or face criminal punishment for their transgressions.
I want to hit somebody, something, anything. Good God people can be disgusting
Sweet feathery jesus.
Honestly hope that a large % of those folk aren't from Florida.
Just makes me feel so bad for the family & the smear campaign. Christ.
And this is just gold..
Found "break in tool."
I mean wow.
That he used black people's power of telekinesis. You have that right?
Nope not gonna read any further...nope, nope.
I'm curious to actually hear more from the people that were at the actual communitee council meeting after Trayvons death, where the police chief and people of the city council were in attendance. I recall someone saying that Zimmerman was very agressive in his approach to policing, even coming to a mans home and confronting him.
I'm curious to actually hear more from the people that were at the actual communitee council meeting after Trayvons death, where the police chief and people of the city council were in attendance. I recall someone saying that Zimmerman was very agressive in his approach to policing, even coming to a mans home and confronting him.
soundscream
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Zimmermans "black friend" was claiming he meant it as a term of endearment. His brother didn't deny it when interviewed.
If he didn't say it they would be denying it hard because it adds to the evidence that he was targeting Martin.
A term of endearment. So at that point Zimmerman was thinking, 'oh this guy is ok, because he is a fucking coon, maybe he is not suspicious after all'
Oh. Ok.
At this point the Zimmerman alternative theories are looking pretty fragile. I wonder how much police complicity was involved. Passive, or active?
elrechazado
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Take heart, the crazy is amplified on the internet. Real life will prevail.
Looks like a pretty clear joke post to me, but it does get harder and harder to tell as the days go by.
Nah, its this, friends... kinda the whole energy. This just reminds me of it.
I have a lot of Latino friends, mostly Mexican. None of em' care or defend Zimmerman. *shrugs
This means you can never be racist against Dora or Cantinflas.
This incident didn't inspire any new sentiments; it only better revealed old ones. The forces motivating the sentiments (racism, cognitive dissonance) are powerful. It's horrifically shameful stuff though, I agree.
Professor Beef
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This. I mean, if you just take time and think about it, humans have been around for THOUSANDS of years and yet we still let something as trivial as race divide us. Think about how far we've come and how much we've learned in that period of time. Now think about how little has changed in regards to racism. :|
Parallax
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every one of those is a drain on my existence. its amazing the extent one will go.
Ploid 3.0
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That was so lucky, that recording was probably the only chance he had of not being charged with anything, and having her put in jail. That's it, time for a new invention. The necklace cam/recorder, or if we're going all future on it, sacrifice one of your eyes for a surveillance device. This cybernetic beauty will upload all video and sound data to a remote location. Activated by blinking twice with only that eye, blink 3 times for a 911 upload (after 30 minutes it will finalize the upload, before doing so you will get a red warning, this will be your last chance to cancel upload. All prank uploads will be fined $10,000). Tested extensively by the C.I.A., get your's today.
It's funny how the world has to do all the detective work for the PD, but the world putting their heads together with the little digital evidence we can get access too is probably better than the staff they have on hand anyway.
Between this and the facebook posts here (hunger games comments too) the internet gets really sad to read sometimes. I live in Mississippi and mind my own business, at this point I wouldn't doubt that my neighbors would post like this. One day a neighbor's trash can was blown down the street by wind right in front of me. The first thought that prevented me from getting it and putting it back is, "Do I want to get in trouble for being accused of trying to steal a trash bin, or trying to break into their house as I put the trash bin in their yard." The internet + some level of anonymity (real names are showing up on facebook and twitter and they still don't care) seems to give people courage to publicly talk like this. Usually it's only among trusted circles/family, but tweets, facebook walls, and comments of a news article? Bold
If there were actually any wounds, yes.
Had trayvon been pounding on him, there should have been signs of brusining on his hands, along with blood from zimmerman's wounds, and probably some dirt as well. This is a guy who prepares dead bodies for a living. You think he hasn't seen his share of dad bodies after fights? There's a reason fighters wear gloves, even when sparring, training on pads, or working a heavy sandbag.
Actually, Zimmerman's 911 call established that he stalked Trayvon Martin.
Zimmerman's testimony to the police established that he got into some kind of confrontation with Travon Martin.
Zimmerman's confession that he shot Trayvon Martin established that he killed a 17 year old boy.
All of the rest of the events are filler. Everything we know has come from either Zimmerman, his family (recounting what Zimmerman told him). The 911 call Zimmerman made to police prior to the shooting. The other 911 tape with the person screaming for help.
It's not entirely unreasonable to assume that a person with a documented history of paranoia, and aggressive behavior could take the life of another human being.
It's not our fault that the various versions of Zimmerman's narrative are being refuted by some rather significant pieces of evidence, some of that evidence even coming from Zimmerman himself. It's also not our fault that Zimmerman's family and "friend" are doing a piss poor job of shedding light on "what really happened."
The next thing we know, Zimmerman will be writing a book called "If I Did It."
All that really matters is a 17 year old boy was shot and killed, and the reasons given as to why that happened don't mesh with the evidence presented.
As a black man, I don't care if Trayvon Martin was blue or green. He's dead. He should be alive. Right now. With his family. And he is not. Because of George Zimmerman. His parents at least deserve to know why their boy isn't ever going to come home again.
Zimmerman has not been held accountable for his actions, and if it wasn't for this "media making a big deal out of it," this whole thing would have been swept under the rug.
Don't forget that the police considered this case closed.
I know what it's like to have family taken from me through violence. I know what it's like to demand justice be done. Fortunately for me and my family, we DID get that justice.
If your brother/nephew/cousin/close family member, went out to the store to pick up some skittles and iced tea, and they were shot and killed by a complete stranger, wouldn't you want ANSWERS?j
Would the police's answer of "he was killed in self defense," sit well with you, especially considering what you know of your brother/nephew/cousin/close family members.
What appalls me the most about this situation is how little concern is given to the rights of Trayvon Martin and his family. It's like, "How DARE THEY want to get to the bottom of the murder of their kid!" Or, "How DARE that kid walk down the street in the rain and spook some decent neighborhood watch guy!"
Trayvon had every right to walk down the street, in his hoodie, in the rain. Zimmerman, had no right to follow, confront, and shoot him to death, for ANY REASON.
Why did Zimmerman feel the need to confront Trayvon?
Why would Trayvon divert from his trip back from the store to assault a guy he sees walking back to his car?
No matter how you cut it, Zimmerman initiated the conflict that led to Trayvon's death. Zimmerman, a man with no authority over anyone, is the one in the wrong here, even if he's not a racist (I don't particularly think he was a racist, but I do think he accepted certain stereotypes concerning black males as fact).
Trayvon had no obligation to answer Zimmerman when he demanded to know "what he was doing here."
That's just fucking RUDE to me. Who was HE to demand that of someone? Who are any of us to demand that of any stranger we see walking down the street in our neighborhood?
Anyway, most of this post wasn't directed towards you, but I'm just venting my current thoughts on this situation.
I'm going to be honest here. I don't hear coons. I hear punks. I still believe Zimmerman profiled him regardless though.
Parallax
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did you mention zimmermans time as a bouncer and his empowerment issues?
They are pretty much all closet racists so unfortunately there is no arguing with them.
I find it funny that they conveniently forget the fact that the only reason why this story is news at all is because there has been no arrest even though it is known who shot him. Those pieces of shit that set that dude on fire were promptly arrested and charged. But you know, gotta play up that persecution complex.
Exactly. I don't know why they even bother bringing that old shit up. No matter what happens in today's world, I'm sure that with the hundred years of slavery, rape, and murder forced upon blacks, that whites are still "winning." /smfh
Dreams-Visions
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sounds like "fucking coons" to me.
Only reason I think its coons, is because I hear uh "KOO" not "PUN" unless he really stretches out punks to say it like puuunks. Either way, whatever he said, and that his black friend agreed he said. Its showing his state of mind in thinking the guy is a punk coon criminal based on nothing but his profile of him already being up to no good.
and on drugs.
Actually the original article was linked was this
My wife and I promptly pointed out how stupid this is since these kids were arrested and charged with hate crimes. Hence NO NATIONAL OUTRAGE. and my other post was the response........... Yea...........
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