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[AceBandage]

Aang did master it completely by the end though, that's also why he is the youngest fully realized Avatar.

On teh subject of Korra, I kinda agree she will not master it during the series. She will undoubtly do so sometime in her life though.

No.
He got hit by a rock on his scar and it triggered. He was not in control until the very very end when he was able to exit it, and that was not mastering it. That was him finally being able to just get out of it through sheer determination.

 

[GCX]

I trust DiMartino and Konietzko enough to know that they wouldn't make TLA finale's ultimate story climax some throwaway power in LoK.

 

[QuiteWhittle]

In order for that to happen, she would have to become far more spiritual than even Aang. And I just do not see that happening.

Korra would be the only shown Avatar to not do so, you do realize this?

 

[CoolS]

No.
He got hit by a rock on his scar and it triggered. He was not in control until the very very end when he was able to exit it, and that was not mastering it. That was him finally being able to just get out of it through sheer determination.

After defeating Ozai, he had amstered the Avatar state. Remember his eyes and tatoos glowing for a second before he was using the freaking ocean to put out the fire on the land?

 

[AceBandage]

Korra would be the only shown Avatar to not do so, you do realize this?

Only as far as we know. Plenty of others may have never been able to master it. That doesn't mean they couldn't use it.

After defeating Ozai, he had amstered the Avatar state. Remember his eyes and tatoos glowing for a second before he was using the freaking ocean to put out the fire on the land?

Mmm, I suppose sort of that could be correct. Though, the fact that in the heat of battle he wasn't in control suggests he still hadn't fully mastered it.

 

[CornBurrito]

Ty Lei's martial arts.
That's been speculated for ages now that her abilities would be the cornerstone for the Equalist's fighting.

He's talking about the headgrab stuff I think.

No.
He got hit by a rock on his scar and it triggered. He was not in control until the very very end when he was able to exit it, and that was not mastering it. That was him finally being able to just get out of it through sheer determination.

The rock triggered it, but he had mastered it. He wasn't able to use it before the rock incident due to his injury IIRC.

 

[CoolS]

Mmm, I suppose sort of that could be correct. Though, the fact that in the heat of battle he wasn't in control suggests he still hadn't fully mastered it.

I know it was confirmed by the writers somewhere that he was a fully realized Avatar by the end of the series because he mastered the Avatar state, I can't find the source right know though.

Also, how I saw it he already mastered it in the end of season 2, but it wasn't untill the rock hit his back that the chi blockade was finally released.

 

[AceBandage]

He's talking about the headgrab stuff I think.




The rock triggered it, but he had mastered it. He wasn't able to use it before the rock incident due to his injury IIRC.

Ah, I haven't seen any commercials since I refuse to watch TV anymore except for a few exceptions.

 

[CornBurrito]

As for the Avatar having to be spiritual to master the Avatar state, I'm not sure how true that is. Yangchen probably mastered the Avatar state, and she specifically said that as the Avatar she had to disregard some of the air nomad teachings. Specifically she said that the Avatar is intrinsically tied to the Earth.

You probably need a high level of spirituality to master it, but perhaps not Aang levels.

 

[Trey]

but it wasn't untill the rock hit his back that the chi blockade was finally released.

This was so unsatisfying. Pure fluke that a rock unblocked all his chakras. It just went to show how over powered the state is and how it became a burden to the plot instead of a cornerstone.

I didn't like how everything Aang needed to defeat the Firelord without killing him just presented itself in the finale.

 

[CornBurrito]

This was so unsatisfying. Pure fluke that a rock unblocked all his chakras. It just went to show how over powered the state is and how it became a burden to the plot instead of a cornerstone.

I didn't like how everything Aang needed to defeat the Firelord without killing him just presented itself in the finale.

To be fair there are hints of "destiny" in the series.

For example, if Aang hadn't ran away that day he would have likely been a victim of the genocide.

 

[CoolS]

I didn't like how everything Aang needed to defeat the Firelord without killing him just presented itself in the finale.

I get why people didn't like that, but Mike and Bryan had been planning on that since before they even did the pilot. It's just too abd they didn't figure out how do actually do it until the third season, otherwise I'm sure they would have dropped a few hints on that somewhere.

 

[Infinite Justice]

No.
It started as brotherly love.
But you could clearly see it evolve throughout the series into much more. Katara watched Aang grow and become strong and mature, and she started to reciprocate the feeling towards him.

Pretty much and you started to see it bear fruit in season 3

Spoiler

I think Aang going with what kiss before they did the invasion plan helped out since he's like "yea i'm ready for this, if i finish my duty and return alive"

I get why people didn't like that, but Mike and Bryan had been planning on that since before they even did the pilot. It's just too abd they didn't figure out how do actually do it until the third season, otherwise I'm sure tehy would have dropped a few hints on that somewhere.

You could find some hints about Lion Turtles but the move itself was nowhere to be found and it was a shame.

 

[Trey]

I get why people didn't like that, but Mike and Bryan had been planning on that since before they even did the pilot. It's just too abd they didn't figure out how do actually do it until the third season, otherwise I'm sure tehy would have dropped a few hints on that somewhere.

Aang nearly died. That would of been the perfect time for the Lion Turtle to appear, and would have given the third book a subplot of Aang trying to master himself as well as the elements. Then all those "filler" character building episodes have meaning, because those parts of Aang's being are what allow him to be pure enough to Energybend Ozai.

In one fell swoop you invalidate the filler tag people levy against b3 and elevate the Lions Turtle from deus Ex machina territory into a cornerstone of Avatar lore that fuels fan speculation over the course of the final book.

However, I shelved my issues with the finale because it's ultimately a kids show and the ride was amazing. I just wish regular Aang didn't job so hard against Ozai to make the Avatar State so necessary.

 

[El Sloth]

When are the episodes supposed to air on television?

 

[Hieberrr]

When are the episodes supposed to air on television?

April 14th

 

[CoolS]

When are the episodes supposed to air on television?

from the OP:

Airing times

Episode 1 - 11:00 EDT, 14th April 2012
Episode 2 - 11:30 EDT, 14th April 2012
Episode 3 - 11:00 EDT, 21st April 2012

Aang nearly died. That would of been the perfect time for the Lion Turtle to appear, and would have given the third book a subplot of Aang trying to master himself as well as the elements. Then all those "filler" character building episodes have meaning, because those parts of Aang's being are what allow him to be pure enough to Energybend Ozai.

In one fell swoop you invalidate the filler tag people levy against b3 and elevate the Lions Turtle from deus Ex machina territory into a cornerstone of Avatar lore that fuels fan speculation over the course of the final book.

However, I shelved my issues with the finale because it's ultimately a kids show and the ride was amazing. I just wish regular Aang didn't job so hard against Ozai to make the Avatar State so necessary.

I agree, that's why it's so sad that they didn't figure it out earlier. Oh well, I still consider the ending one of the most satisfying ones for a TV show.

Except that Zuko's mum tease dammit.

 

[Hieberrr]

He's talking about the headgrab stuff I think.

Yup, that part. Confuses the hell out of me. I hope it's still tied to the requirement of high spirituality or something :S

Or maybe, it's something completely different?

 

[Infinite Justice]

April 14th

And it looks like they are premiering the 2 eps as well so the wait time will be shortened for episode 3

Or maybe, it's something completely different?

It might also be a chi blocking point that does something similar

 

[rexor0717]

Only as far as we know. Plenty of others may have never been able to master it. That doesn't mean they couldn't use it.



Mmm, I suppose sort of that could be correct. Though, the fact that in the heat of battle he wasn't in control suggests he still hadn't fully mastered it.

People are throwing around the term mastered left and right in this thread. I agree with yo, just because he could use it doesn't necessarily mean he mastered it.

 

[Wiseblade]

from the OP:

You're my favourite person.

 

[CoolS]

People are throwing around the term mastered left and right in this thread. I agree with yo, just because he could use it doesn't necessarily mean he mastered it.

Unless the creators say that what Aang did is the prerequisite for mastering the Avatar state...

You're my favourite person.

Let's hug!

 

[Skilletor]

I'm watching book 3 and...is there any backstory on the guy who could shoot concussive blasts from the eye on his forehead? Like, why can he do that?

 

[Big Chungus]

Woah, haven't seen these pics of Bumi and Kya before:

Also:

Spoiler

Bumi is a non bender

 

[AceBandage]

Wow...
They look nothing like Aang and Katara.

 

[apana]

As for the Avatar having to be spiritual to master the Avatar state, I'm not sure how true that is. Yangchen probably mastered the Avatar state, and she specifically said that as the Avatar she had to disregard some of the air nomad teachings. Specifically she said that the Avatar is intrinsically tied to the Earth.

You probably need a high level of spirituality to master it, but perhaps not Aang levels.

I think it is spiritual. You need to be able to clear your chakras or control your mind in some way. Aang entered the Avatar state by clearing his last chakra. He had to let go of his attachment to and love for Katara to reach it. Azula hit him in the spine with lightning and should have kileld him but Katara used that special water to save him. The state was blocked until it was broken again in the Ozai battle. Yangchen was very spiritual. The only point she was making is that Aang could never renounce the world and achieve enlightenment as other air nomads had, he is the Avatar. The only reason he was born as a human is to participate in the world.

 

[CoolS]

Man, Appa's Lost Days is such I powerful episode. I have something in my eye..

 

[Blackhead]

http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/Shipping

essentially fans playing matchmaker with a certain pair of characters from a medium.

I just got through the dozens of tvtrope links you posted :? I had no idea the extent of shipping in the Avatar fandom. The Die For Our Ship has a whole subpage just for Avatar :0... The ship tease write up on Avatar was particularly enlightening. At least I know now to pay no attention to cheap tricks.

taken from another forum

After seeing the ship tease in the latest trailer, perhaps this should be the flipped the other way around :/

 

[Wiseblade]

I'm watching book 3 and...is there any backstory on the guy who could shoot concussive blasts from the eye on his forehead? Like, why can he do that?

Apparently, he was just born with a unique style of firebending. The first time he tried to use it, he blew off an arm and a leg, hence the metal limbs.

 

[jump_button]

Woah, haven't seen these pics of Bumi and Kya before:

Also:

Spoiler

Bumi is a non bender

I dont think that how DNA works

 

[apana]

Aang nearly died. That would of been the perfect time for the Lion Turtle to appear, and would have given the third book a subplot of Aang trying to master himself as well as the elements. Then all those "filler" character building episodes have meaning, because those parts of Aang's being are what allow him to be pure enough to Energybend Ozai.

In one fell swoop you invalidate the filler tag people levy against b3 and elevate the Lions Turtle from deus Ex machina territory into a cornerstone of Avatar lore that fuels fan speculation over the course of the final book.

However, I shelved my issues with the finale because it's ultimately a kids show and the ride was amazing. I just wish regular Aang didn't job so hard against Ozai to make the Avatar State so necessary.

I personally liked the energy bending as a surprise at the end. Aang was going through a spritual dilemma and that's why the turtle reached out to him. It was because he did not want to hurt life but at the same time accepted the fact that he needed to kill Ozai, that the turtle deemed him worthy and gave him a solution. The only thing I would have done differently is have Aang face the issue of killing Ozai all throughout season 3. It's strange that he only realized it at the end.

I dont think that how DNA works

Wat?

 

[Infinite Justice]

I just got through the dozens of tvtrope links you posted :? I had no idea the extent of shipping in the Avatar fandom. The Die For Our Ship has a whole subpage just for Avatar :0... The ship tease write up on Avatar was particularly enlightening. At least I know now to pay no attention to cheap tricks.


After seeing the ship tease in the latest trailer, perhaps this should be the flipped the other way around :/

@bold: i see that effect is still potent with that site.

Yea i had no idea TLA had such a fanbase until i saw it bumped into it one day and i was like "wut"

Wow...
They look nothing like Aang and Katara.

This could be the proverbial can of worms for a certain section of fans LOL

 

[Big Chungus]

I dont think that how DNA works

?

 

[Professor Beef]

I know who Bumi is, but who is the other person? I haven't seen TLA in ages.

 

[Desmond]

Woah, haven't seen these pics of Bumi and Kya before:

Also:

Spoiler

Bumi is a non bender

Damn

 

[Ezduo]

taken from another forum

This is what immediately came to mind when I saw that scene.

 

[Big Chungus]

I know who Bumi is, but who is the other person? I haven't seen TLA in ages.

Bumi and Kya are Aang/Kitara's children.

They were named after the characters in TLA.

 

[Tawpgun]

Woah, haven't seen these pics of Bumi and Kya before:

Also:

Spoiler

Bumi is a non bender

Bumi confirmed for Amon

 

[Infinite Justice]

Bumi confirmed for Amon

Would the creators making something like that so visible/easy to spot?

i will give them the benefit of the doubt.

 

[Professor Beef]

Bumi and Kya are Aang/Kitara's children.

They were named after the characters in TLA.

Ohhhhhhhhhhh.

 

[CoolS]

Bumi confirmed for Amon

Would the creators making something like that so visible/easy to spot?

i will give them the benefit of the doubt.

Sometimes, this thread really is on repeat ^^

While we're at it:

http://www.tumblr.com/photo/1280/yencid/19999309000/1/tumblr_m1j4mmtxoR1r0xsbb

Family tree/spoilery maybe? Im not sure how legit it is though it does look very.

Found some more stuff. I present you the rule of pro-bending:

 

[Infinite Justice]

Sometimes, this thread really is on repeat ^^

While we're at it:

Hey Professor Beef didn't say anything this time lol


as for the Amon is

Spoiler

Bumi thing after checking that preview again wouldn't Amon's skin color be darker than that (i.e to Bumi's color).

Or unless this Amon we are seeing is not the true Amon and Bumi is :O

LOL this is gonna be fun to see played out.

 

[Supermanisdead]

i wish there was a no-shipping version of this thread

 

[CoolS]

Hey Professor Beef didn't say anything this time lol


as for the Amon is

Spoiler

Bumi thing after checking that preview again wouldn't Amon's skin color be darker than that (i.e to Bumi's color).

Or unless this Amon we are seeing is not the true Amon and Bumi is :O

LOL this is gonna be fun to see played out.

I still think it would be too obvious now. Plus I refuse to believe one of Aang's children would do something like that.

i wish there was a no-shipping version of this thread

Actually there hasn't really been a lot of shipping so far imo. Most of it was just poking fun at the insane fan-girls from TLA. The only real possibilities untill now are MakoxKorra and BolinxKorra and everyone agrees one that.

 

[TacticalFox88]

After seeing the ship tease in the latest trailer, perhaps this should be the flipped the other way around :/

I'm sorry, but at the end of episode two, there is no way you can convince me that Korra was thinking about Mako. Mako himself, thinking about Korra? Yeah, you can make an argument for that. But Korra? Hell no. She was probably thinking "Hell yeah, I get to be a Pro-bender!" As obvious as the pairing is going to be, it's not mutual just yet. I give it three episodes.

 

[Infinite Justice]

i wish there was a no-shipping version of this thread

I still think it would be too obvious now. Plus I refuse to believe one of Aang's children would do something like that.

Tbf i was just throwing out stuff though, and i would like to think that won't happen either since that would be pretty fucked up.

Actually there hasn't really been a lot of shipping so far imo. Most of it was just poking fun at the insane fan-girls from TLA. The only real possibilities untill now are MakoxKorra and BolinxKorra and everyone agrees one that.

Dont forget the LinxKorra people lol

I'm sorry, but at the end of episode two, there is no way you can convince me that Korra was thinking about Mako. Mako himself, thinking about Korra? Yeah, you can make an argument for that. But Korra? Hell no. She was probably thinking "Hell yeah, I get to be a Pro-bender!" As obvious as the pairing is going to be, it's not mutual just yet. I give it three episodes.

I would like to think everyone agrees on this for that scene. :/

 

[Ignis Fatuus]

Dont forget the LinxKorra people lol

Fuck yeah!

Ya'll can have your plausible, pandering canonical pairings. We all know who has the best ship.

 

[Blackhead]

I'm sorry, but at the end of episode two, there is no way you can convince me that Korra was thinking about Mako. Mako himself, thinking about Korra? Yeah, you can make an argument for that. But Korra? Hell no. She was probably thinking "Hell yeah, I get to be a Pro-bender!" As obvious as the pairing is going to be, it's not mutual just yet. I give it three episodes.

I would like to think everyone agrees on this for that scene. :/

She could be thinking "I get to be a pro bender with Mako". She already knows who he is by reputation, listens to his matches, is a fangirl and when training she cares about his opinion of her. The argument for Mako is based on a stereotypical evaluation of the character whereas the argument for Korra is based on her actions and words during the episode...
(besides I explicitly said I wasn't looking at only the end of episode 2. In the season trailer we also find out that she is a shipper on deck and forces the question... *shrug* is this how shipping wars get started?)

 

[Professor Beef]

*sigh* I'm out. Hope the thread doesn't get locked by the time episode 3 rolls out.

Fucking shippers, man.

 

[Infinite Justice]

She could be thinking "I get to be a pro bender with Mako". She already knows who he is by reputation, listens to his matches, is a fangirl and when training she cares about his opinion of her. The argument for Mako is based on a stereotypical evaluation of the character whereas the argument for Korra is based on her actions and words during the episode...
(besides I explicitly said I wasn't looking at only the end of episode 2. In the season trailer we also find out that she is a shipper on deck and forces the question... *shrug* is this how shipping wars get started?)

from what i've seen, pretty much