Do want.
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It was actually M. Night Shyamalan in a Christopher Nolan suit all along. edit: SMH, did double post without thinking. Sorry guys.
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Legend of Korra |OT| - Saturday Mornings Just Got Better
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Do want.
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CornBurrito
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One bender can't defeat an army of nonbenders.
Fuck, sometimes a small unit of benders cant defeat a single nonbender. See: Tai Lee vs. Sandbenders.
AceBandage
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CornBurrito
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Bending is broken anyway so...
lol.
Maybe Korra will find a way to make everyone air nomads. They were the most equal society basically.
Ultimadrago
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Ty Lee would totally be one of my mains.
Slamtastic
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CornBurrito
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Yeah, the last villain was a manipulative bastard. Please make this one actually care about his ideals.
Ignis Fatuus
Banned
Ozai was a pretty shallow villain, probably the biggest weakness of the original series from a narrative perspective discounting the deus ex turtle. They got away with it because Azula was so good and the largest villainous onscreen presence. Fortunately it seems that Amon is going to get a lot more attention in this series.
CornBurrito
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Yeah I didn't care much for Ozai. Thank god for Azula. I think the reason Ozai sucked was because of his lack of development, which I think they did to preserve an element of mystery.
Actually, maybe that is why they masked Amon. So they could develop him onscreen without ruining that element of mystery. IIRC Ozai was basically sitting in the shadows for 90% of his scenes before his big debut.
^ Which worked spectacularly well. I still recall the buzz / shock during Book 3 fever when Ozai's face was finaly shown - the far-distant destiny which Aang had to meet finally became materialised and tangible.
Compare that to the live action movie, .. it may as well have started with Ozai's close up goddam it. Totally ruined the vibe.
Compare that to the live action movie, .. it may as well have started with Ozai's close up goddam it. Totally ruined the vibe.
So, I watched all of Avatar: The Last Airbender over that past week. I watched it a little when it was on years ago and really liked it, but unfortunately fell off. I came back because so many of my friends loved the series and were hyped for Korra.
Glad I came back because I loved just about every second of it. It was an absolutely amazing show. I actually finished it earlier tonight before taking a short break and starting the first 2 episodes Korra which were fantastic. I love Korra already. I actually think I'm going to rewatch the two episodes again right now.
Thread sub'd and can't wait for more Korra!
Glad I came back because I loved just about every second of it. It was an absolutely amazing show. I actually finished it earlier tonight before taking a short break and starting the first 2 episodes Korra which were fantastic. I love Korra already. I actually think I'm going to rewatch the two episodes again right now.
Thread sub'd and can't wait for more Korra!
Ignis Fatuus
Banned
Oh god pony invasion.
Would much rather see it directed by Guillermo Del Toro.
Well there were no Korra avatars in the op :\
If you have a spare Zuko one I'll take it though
Phoenician_Viking
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No. Amon wants to eradicate bending he wants to be the only bender left so he can feel special. There is no being special if there are a lot of benders.
I am kidding
Lion Turtle said:
Statement there is a little ambiguous - there does not seem to be any tangible constraint restricting Energy-bending to 'pure-of-heart' souls.
I'm being reminded of the Vegeta-complex (just made that up), during his ascent to super-saiyan status despite the preconceptions as to the supposed pre-requisites; i.e. pure-spirit.
I really hope I am wrong, and that this form of bending is restricted to the Avatar.
This makes no sense to me. The Lion Turtle could do it, and so could others. The art existed before the Avatar or even bending of the elements existed. I don't see why nobody else should be capable of learning it.
And "Pure of heart? My heart is pure evil!" was awesome.
Ultimadrago
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you guys scared prof beef away
He'll be back, Billy. We must hold strong till then
and afterwards
Stephen Chow please. The only time i really saw this blend of kung fu action and comedy mix well with a strong narrative.
This post are my thoughts, materialized.
I sincerely disliked Ozai because I'm something of a villain-enthusiast, and he's poorly implemented. He's faceless for two-thirds of the series with the more fundamental and overused of cliches fueling his motives. But somewhere along the line I decided to stop evaluating Ozai in his own right. Rather, I use his influence on Zuko and Azula's development as villains to define his impact, which is much more satisfying. They are, afterall, the main antagonists of the series, and both try to curry favor with Ozai to varying degrees. It's why I find the flashback episodes (The Avatar and the Firelord in particular) so compelling.
Amon has the advantage of being the major villain from the outset, and has potential to be the ultimate big bad as opposed to Zuko being season 1's main antagonist when Admiral Zho and the Firelord were the actual big bads. His story can be developed proportional to Korra's, so the friction of their struggle will hopefully be more potent. I seem to always enjoy the plots were a group or person tries to equalize the "homo superiors" to the rest of use non-special folk, especially when the main character belongs to the latter subset. Really gives perspective if handled correctly.
I was always ok with Ozai not being a particular well developed character. He basically just represented the evil of the Fire Nation, that absolutely had to be defeated no matter what. He was just power hungry and wanted world domination, and and in some way finish what his grandfather had started.
I always saw his family, Iroh, Zuko and Azula as and extension of him. They all showed different and really well developed parts of the same heritage.
Iroh was never a real antagonist, and while he was probably more for the cause of the fire nation in his earlier years before his son died, he changed afterwards and saw that what they were doing is wrong.
Zuko was a middleground for a long time and conflicted between his father's goals and his uncles teachings. I won't write any more on him.
And of course Azula was just the batshit insane powerhouse prodigy that wanted the Fire Nation's victory at any cost, She was always the perfect extension of her father's evilness.
I always saw his family, Iroh, Zuko and Azula as and extension of him. They all showed different and really well developed parts of the same heritage.
Iroh was never a real antagonist, and while he was probably more for the cause of the fire nation in his earlier years before his son died, he changed afterwards and saw that what they were doing is wrong.
Zuko was a middleground for a long time and conflicted between his father's goals and his uncles teachings. I won't write any more on him.
And of course Azula was just the batshit insane powerhouse prodigy that wanted the Fire Nation's victory at any cost, She was always the perfect extension of her father's evilness.
She was only batshit (onscreen) in the finale. Otherwise, she was probably the most put together character other than, like, the Guru or some shit. I say onscreen because it's wholly possible she was putting on a front, because her descent into madness wasn't exactly gradual (signs of insecurity popped up here and there). But we have no proof so I choose to think she had it together.
She was more concerned with pleasing her father than Fire Nation victory. The two aren't mutually exclusive, because victory was a means to an end. But the root, and definable feature of her character would be pleasing her father to make up for disappointing her mother.
I could never really get to calling her evil. She never tortured anyone. Usually used subterfuge and coercion before brute force to get things done.
Killing Aang and suggesting the Firelord burn the Earth Kingdom wholesale are her cruelest acts, which in the context of a kids show are rather evil.
I'm probably the biggest Azula apologist there is, so there's that. Certainly crazy, certainly powerful, but I just never saw evil. Rather pragmatic and efficient.
CornBurrito
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jump_button
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We need some sub villain maybe a someone in between, but then we dont really know yet first set are just setting up meetings of the cast hard to tell where it all going. but i do think it will be more about fighting ideas not so black and white as good vs evil
Iam just waiting for the ep they try and get Korra into a dress its got to happen at some point you know it will she not get into it easy but
Iam just waiting for the ep they try and get Korra into a dress its got to happen at some point you know it will she not get into it easy but
Exactly. Really looking forward to what they'll do with Amon.
I'll be waiting on the playground. After class. Me. You.
TacticalFox88
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Maybe Amon is a sorcerer or alchemist, as the reason he can go toe-to-toe with benders. I could definitely see the creators throwing that kind of curveball at us, despite how low of a chance Nick would actually allow that if they wanted too.
To me that'd be far more interesting then him being a secret bender.
To me that'd be far more interesting then him being a secret bender.
Amon is secretly Zombie Aang, and they've been using his body and ability to bend all four elements to achieve domination over other benders.
Remind me to never join in the speculation side of this thread
Honestly no reason to make this personal. If a statement pertaining to a fantastical world is enough for you to determine I'm a danger to your well being, then so be it. But for the sake of discussion, I would appreciate you counter the point within the context of the show and particular character.
It's probably my fault for trying to offer an impartial view on a world set where good and evil is explicitly assigned. I try to keep things relative. I can agree that the Fire Nation is misguided and Ozai is certainly evil. His greatest sins are being such a shit character but that doesn't mean Azula needs to be described as such. Killing the major antagonist to your goals (Aang) is a reality of conflict and really the same thing most of the Gang would have endorsed from the otherside: killing Ozai. The largest character blow is obviously the genocide suggestion, and is really indefensible as an act.
No no,
Amon wants to eradicate bending so people will want to buy his new Science fueled weapons.
I got 10 bucks on a Chain-Gun showing up.
But coming up with crazy theories is half of the fun!
My current theory? Amon is an Avatar. Aang's "death" death at the end of Book 2 messed with the avatar cycle and at that time another person was born with the potential to bend all four elements. Training and amassing forces in secret for 70 years, Amon plans to eliminate the competition before taking over the world.
All of that and the villain still just wants to take over the world? C'mon, Wiseblade!
Watch him be right. Taking a screenshot of this just in case.
I finished rewatching the series after finally purchasing them on DVD. And when I was reading the old Avatar thread, I saw my first post (March 28, 2009) and realized that I started my rewatch almost three years to the day after first watching it. Completely unintentional - I had forgotten posting in that topic at all - but it did make me rather happy. I haven't watched the DVD commentaries for the last episodes yet, though, so I still have that to look forward to. Plus rewatching again!
I think my favorite moment right now is that scene with Aang in BorkBork's avatar. There's something about it that makes me really, really happy.
When I first watched it, I did it basically sight-unseen without knowing much about it except having read some of the posts in the Lttp: Avatar topic and hearing good things. After watching it I read all sorts of complaints about various complaints (deus ex machina, people not dying, shipping nonsense, etc.), I sort of expected it to affect my enjoyment, but it didn't really. I think it's mostly because I was expecting about what I got and I didn't really feel any sense of deep outrage that I didn't get so-and-so together or so-and-so dead or whatever else. Even better than the first time.
I think my favorite moment right now is that scene with Aang in BorkBork's avatar. There's something about it that makes me really, really happy.
When I first watched it, I did it basically sight-unseen without knowing much about it except having read some of the posts in the Lttp: Avatar topic and hearing good things. After watching it I read all sorts of complaints about various complaints (deus ex machina, people not dying, shipping nonsense, etc.), I sort of expected it to affect my enjoyment, but it didn't really. I think it's mostly because I was expecting about what I got and I didn't really feel any sense of deep outrage that I didn't get so-and-so together or so-and-so dead or whatever else. Even better than the first time.
Haven't watched the third season in quite a while but it would be (another) explanation for why Aang had so much trouble getting back control over the Avatar State. Someone was already hogging his spot.
flintstryker
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I don't think that guy was being serious...
shadyspace
Banned
It's been a while. What happened?
CornBurrito
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AceBandage
Banned
So, he really did go crazy from losing Space Sword.
Did you forget the bit where Azula shot Aang with lightning? He was all "Avatar state, yip yip!" and She was all "lol nope". Then at the start of Book 3 Aang was all "I didn't just go down, it was worse than that." Which sounds like Nickelodeon code for 'I died' to me.
Infinite Justice
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Azula shot him with lightning while he was in the Avatar state and according to Roku if an Avatar dies while in the state the entire cycle would be broken. Its implied Aang actually died but luckily Katara saved him with her healing so he basically became Jesus.
CornBurrito
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This mental picture is absolutely hilarious.
My pro-bending team names:
The Flamios
or
The Fearsome Foursome (one too many I know)
And rewatching TLA is so much fun.
"Name's Fire. Wang Fire. And this is my wife, Saph Fire"
Mine would be the Flying Bison. Or maybe the Just Bear.
"You can take off the beard now Sokka!"
"No I can't, it's permanently glued to my face" *strokes beard*
Yeah, I never really got that. What exactly did happen that was much worse than almost dying, other than the Avatar state being broken? It seems like...I don't know, it may have just been the broken cycle.
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