GI.biz: "Wii U less powerful than PS3, Xbox 360, developers say"

Except developers already have ports/versions of games announced, and they wouldn't do that if it was underpowered. And people like the Darksiders developers, who actually have the balls to go on record with their name, basically said they had no problem getting their game up and running.

Is there really anyone stupid enough to hold on to that this system won't be able to run what's coming out for 360 or PS3?

This is why stupid rumors get such legs, as long as there's someone stupid enough to believe them, they're stupid enough to post it to get hits.

A port doesn't have to be as good or better, it can be worse. Just because thy have ports of announced titles doesn't mean the WiiU is more powerful than the current generation consoles.
 
So, named devs from named studios claims that WiiU is more powerfull... and one anonym developper is saying that Wii U is less powerfull... Yeah, I'm sure it's safe to trust the anonym one.
 
Someone needs to tell GI.biz that it isn't April Fools day anymore, because only a fool would believe that nonsense (some of here will no doubt).

I mean really, a developer is going to say "The graphics are just not as powerful", that sounds like its been written by a fanboy on here..
 
Except developers already have ports/versions of games announced, and they wouldn't do that if it was underpowered. And people like the Darksiders developers, who actually have the balls to go on record with their name, basically said they had no problem getting their game up and running.

Is there really anyone stupid enough to hold on to that this system won't be able to run what's coming out for 360 or PS3?

This is why stupid rumors get such legs, as long as there's someone stupid enough to believe them, they're stupid enough to post it to get hits.

The problem here, is that it might not be able to run third party games from the Xbox 720 and PS4, essentially recreating this entire generation all over again.
 
lol sure. I'd guess it's a bit more powerful than than 360/PS3, but not by much. Hell, we've essentially got visual confirmation that, and devs are saying that ports from 360 are mad easy.
 
Could be it that Nintendo will release the WiiU at a price point lower than anyone else ever thought possible? Could we see the WiiU launch at $250 (or even $200!) or $300 with a pack in game or/and additional Wii-motes?

If the main attraction of the Wiiu (as we've been lead to believe) is the tablet controller and Nintendo want to hit the ground running with a console that's profitable from day one then surely it stands to reason that they would make the CPU/GPU etc a cheaper/less powerful chip set knowing that it wasn't the consoles main selling point?

Wasn't the philosophy behind the Wii the fact that it was the controller innovation that made it a hit and not the 'GFX prowess' of the hardware it's main selling point?

So what exactly would change with the WiiU?
 
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GAF, you're killing me here with this revisionist bullshit.
Indeed

Nintendo makes concessions on tech value depending on when they can release the system.

SNES, N64, GC were all released well after the beginning of their respective generations. Wii as well, but 360 and PS3 were high-cost products pushed before their time and initially sold for a break-even or a loss (Wii was one of the first hardwares from Nintendo to release on time!). Only with their mid-life revisions and Kinect/Move have they really started succeeding. Nintendo isn't one to put their money on a delicate balance between revenue and selling for a loss, they want PROFIT.

Profit is the only way Nintendo will be able to compete with the other 2 giants.
 
0.o

Is it wrong that I hope the underpowered WiiU fails? Is it wrong that I want them to stop making consoles?

A third party Nintendo would be the best thing ever.
 
Again... The Wii wasn't weaker than the GameCube.


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GAF, you're killing me here with this revisionist bullshit.

Honestly Ace I think the Nintendo defense force is killing themselves with the revisionist bullshit.

At some point we have to stop being polite and start being real.
 
I can't believe people are willing to believe the Wii U can be weaker than the 360/PS3.

That won't happen. Worst case scenario is that the Wii U would be at least on-par with the 360/PS3.
 
So, named devs from named studios claims that WiiU is more powerfull... and one anonym developper is saying that Wii U is less powerfull... Yeah, I'm sure it's safe to trust the anonym one.

You really don't understand why the opposite conclusion is actually much more likely?
 
"There aren't as many shaders"

"The graphics are just not as powerful"

Anyone in this discussion who doesn't know enough about graphics development and programming to understand that these two quotes are absolute stupidity should be very careful what they defend in this thread.
 
What steaming pile of dog shit!


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God of War 3 destroys this (Scorpion boss battle in The Caverns) and you tell me how old GoW3 is.
 
A port doesn't have to be as good or better, it can be worse. Just because thy have ports of announced titles doesn't mean the WiiU is more powerful than the current generation consoles.

Give me a break. Developers who actually put their name on RECORD saying it's running just as well have already come out.

And companies who didn't support Wii with shit are suddenly having a change in heart and willing to sacrifice effort and resources to "downgrade" games, when they weren't before.

Anyone who believes this is either stupid or trolling.
 
Give me a break. Developers who actually put their name on RECORD saying it's running just as well have already come out.

And companies who didn't support Wii with shit are suddenly having a change in heart and willing to sacrifice effort and resources to "downgrade" games, when they weren't before.

Anyone who believes this is either stupid or trolling.

It doesn't matter who says what and if they put a name behind it. Plenty of known debs have said a lot of things and more likely than not they were lies.
 
Name me ONE worth-their-salt developer who would make such non-technical and inept statements regarding hardware like this.

You are acting like (if this were even confirmed to be real) this is a press statement or something.
Half of what is passed off as 'news' or 'official rumor' these days is some guy standing bullshitting with someone who may or may not work for a company and having them say something in a casual conversation.

The problem is that everyone wants their internet fame and wants to be the first to break a rumor or story so they will run to the internet and hit the post button no matter how flimsy the ground that they are standing on is.

Are they right?
Who knows, we have rumors and reports saying all sides.
Does it make sense with the hardware set up that they have with the tablet being fed from the main system?
Yep.
Does that mean it is true?
Nope.
 
You don't know Nintendo do you.

People ragging about the not as powerful graphics quote... you can twist words all you want, you will know in your hearts it to be true...

Think about it.

If Wii was even less powerful than what we actually got (say PS2 level), would it hurt its sales? No. People who are interested in games and casual gamers would still buy the console to play Wii Sports and Nintendo games. The company would be even richer because of the cheaper hardware.

Since Nintendo isn't releasing a true next-gen console (spec-wise) proper 3rd party support and core gamers are already lost. There's no need for Nintendo to release a PS360+. The demographics they're targeting (people who are interested in Nintendo games and casual gamers) are going to buy the console even if it's slightly less powerful than PS360. A move like that, would actually make sense.

I'm not saying that this is what is going to happen, all I'm saying is that I wouldn't find it surprising...at all.
 
Bullshit.

And if he wasn't he should be.

It IS supposed to be a next gen system after all.

I think you're purposefully taking the line out of context because you want to rustle and tustle. Which would be fine, if you had posted anything of substance in this thread.

And the wii-u should get ports from those systems depending on haw crazy MS and Sony go with hardware.

I want more info before we start saying this, but a reasonable theoretical situation could keep the 360 and PS3 around for a lot longer than many people think.
 
I've got this rad Killzone 2 trailer from E3 that I want to show you...

Have you ever looked at how shitty that trailer looked in retrospect?

And that was prerendered "in-engine." Zelda is real-time in engine.

Not saying the Zelda demo was technically impressive. It just had fantastic lighting.
 
GAF > INTERNET > WORLD > GAF

Power and Graphics are all that matters, if it sparkles that's what I pay good money for!

Good "content" is hard to quantify, but graphics, are up front

/gaf
 
Think about it.

If Wii was even less powerful than what we actually got (say PS2 level), would it hurt its sales? No. People who are interested in games and casual gamers would still buy the console to play Wii Sports and Nintendo games. The company would be even richer because of the cheaper hardware.

Since Nintendo isn't releasing a true next-gen console (spec-wise) proper 3rd party support and core gamers are already lost. There's no need for Nintendo to release a PS360+. The demographics they're targeting (people who are interested in games and casual gamers) are going to buy the console even if it's slightly less powerful than PS360. A move like that, would actually make sense.

I'm not saying that this is what is going to happen, all I'm saying is that I wouldn't find it surprising...at all.


Well, if we believe Nintendo's public statements, they are not just targeting casual gamers this generation. The Wii in the end did not meet Nintendo's expectations, I am sure of it- especially in its home market.
 
I don't think this is likely. They would have to go out of their way to build such an underpowered system. I thought the same thing about Wii, but at that time they had the excuse of needing to support hardware BC.

That was amusing.
 
It doesn't matter who says what and if they put a name behind it. Plenty of known debs have said a lot of things and more likely than not they were lies.

You're right, it obviously doesn't matter if someone posts a "source" because if there's stupid enough people to believe it, they'll get hits.

All facts and common sense say otherwise that the system is at the very least capable of anything this current generation.

Just like a few weeks ago when a "source" had Vice City Nights and all these supposed Vita releases coming out, the rumor spread all over sites until it was shown to be a hoax.
 
This sounds so unrealistic for Nintendo, yet rumor where WiiU was 5xHD consoles was pretty plausible. We went from zero AA and low poly environments in Zelda demo to 5x 360...Thats Nintendo for you.
 
This is my first time inside a Nintendo defense force thread. I don't even know what's going on or what people are arguing.
 
lol sure. I'd guess it's a bit more powerful than than 360/PS3, but not by much. Hell, we've essentially got visual confirmation that, and devs are saying that ports from 360 are mad easy.
They should ask Crytek and Epic how easy will be to port from 720p, thats what matters.
 
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