GhostTrick
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About GI article... Just a late joke. Only fools could trust it.
GI.biz: "Wii U less powerful than PS3, Xbox 360, developers say"
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BigTnaples
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You're blind.
"Count the polys" in the GoW scene vs the Zelda demo.
The framerate is higher, the lighting is excellent, it has great MB, etc etc.
And it is a playable game on last gen hardware going up against a tech demonstration for supposed next generation hardware.
Why are we still even discussing this?
Captain Tuttle
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I'm not buying this rumor. I think Nintendo would have had to lost their minds for this to be true
No, I'm just saying it doesn't even run at locked 30fps. Imagine what SSM could do if they went for 30fps and empty room with one spider tech demo? :O
God of War 3 has a uber smooth framerate and really kickas AA solution. I cant wait to see what Santa Monica has prepared for the sequel.
With that kind of graphics, i really dont have a strong need for nextgen. I can come in late 2013, and untill then we are gonna have a ton of kickass games, especially from Sony.
With that kind of graphics, i really dont have a strong need for nextgen. I can come in late 2013, and untill then we are gonna have a ton of kickass games, especially from Sony.
If it could run it at 30 fps constantly with v-sync, that would be something.
Sort of!
But really folks. Stop using the god damn Zelda demo for your arguments, it's not a particularily amazing tech demo, save for the lighting.
Use this! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6OHUwDShrD4. Sure it's pretty much a pretty cinematic and no gameplay but I'll be damned if it isn't doing a better job at pimping the Wii U than the Zelda demo is.
Use this! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6OHUwDShrD4. Sure it's pretty much a pretty cinematic and no gameplay but I'll be damned if it isn't doing a better job at pimping the Wii U than the Zelda demo is.
You're joking right?
so can Stevie Wonder
MisterHero
Super Member
Given that it's a current-gen game, I'd hope the Wii U version had slightly-better performance
but that would likely need Wii U to be the lead platform, which would never happen. Even when the next generation consoles are released!
BigTnaples
Todd Howard's Secret GAF Account
Yes actually I was. In reference to his older post.
But, IGN had you guys fooled it was 2-5x times the current HD consoles. Than came Ideamans posts, than new dev kits, people even talked about 2 gigs of ram. Lol! You CAN'T fit shoes in your wallet, you need shoebox. WiiU is so damn small that even being close to PS360 should be a miracle. If it was 2x and more powerful they could make tech demo looking much better than what is achievable in current generation games.
Uno Venova
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Thread is sooo goood.
Yes, I imagine everybody would want to spend 500+ bucks instead of half that price
James Sawyer Ford
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Nintendo is going to have to release this system with some outstanding software for me to even consider picking it up now.
I love Nintendo games, but below PS3/360? In 2012? Are you kidding me?
I love Nintendo games, but below PS3/360? In 2012? Are you kidding me?
we're back to these words again Cloving?
look like I said in my other post, show me a youtube clip where it looks as bad as you say it does, to the point where it bothers you enough to ignore all the crazy advanced things its doing....just because of a bad rock texture by a tree.
show me a game that is more visually consistent, which looks as advanced as GOW3.
I don't know where the commentary on God of War 3 destroying the Zelda tech demo comes from - both look awesome, and God of War's impressiveness comes from scope and cinematography (and being in development for a billion years) so obviously it has more wowness than something cobbled together for an E3 console unveiling. But technically speaking it's not really head and shoulders above the WiiU running demo.
GhostTrick
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You'll be surprised to see what you can fit in smaller boxes than Xbox360 or PS3... with a far more powerfull hardware.
MikeE21286
Member
Well that's not to my liking if true...
MrNyarlathotep
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Damn son...
Zelda tech demo
GOW III
You may think Zelda demo looks better than these, but it doesn't. No, even if its off screen. Do I have to mention that GOW III avg. frame rate is ~40 fps while Zelda was 30 locked?
This post sort of backfires, because there's some really nice effects going on in that tech demo that aren't in that GoW3 screen.
I mean, you might like the artistic direction of GoW more, but that zelda screen has self-shadowing, depth of field, reflective floor for world and character models and some nice particle effects going on the fires.
you can state opinion as fact all you want, but that zelda tech demo doesn't look 'bad' on any sort of technical level.
Thunder Monkey
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Far from the best shot I've seen of it.
Nintendo could give an awesome presentation with Wii-U but anti-Nintendo fanboys will shit on specs till their blue in the face... you can't please everybody.Sadly, E3 won't change many things...
Wii U: More details, playable demos, tease of Zelda, Mario, Smash... the usual suspects will like and fap to it, the other usual suspects will "lol" and talk about how is not next gen enough while claiming to be huge Nintendo fans that are going to abandon Nintendo "now". Not during the 480p Wii games that looked horrible on their TVs, not during the GameCube/N64 days were developers were abandoning Nintendo consoles and the PlayStation was getting stronger while Nintendo promoting GBA connectivity and Pac-man Vs. as the next big thing.....but .. "now".
Next Xbox/PS4 teaser: Will quickly be compared to Wii U games, as evidence that the Wii U is not powerful, "lol poor Nintendo". Hairs and shaders will be counted, resolutions will be measured and 20fps YouTube videos will be used as evidence of said demos running at 60fps and 1080p.
Of course, people will continue bringing possible Xbox and PS4 specs during that time, while neglecting or forgetting the "anti-used games rumors", the "always online requirements", the "no disc drives", the "lack of backward compatibility"...stuff that at the moment, hasn't been mentioned about the Wii U, since those sources are obviously lying, unlike the sources in this article.
Was just about to post that.
Unseen in this footage is the Wii U controller, which is displaying another camera angle of the scene, controlled by the motion sensors.
E3 is going to be REALLLLLY interesting.
Green Yoshi
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Ninja Gaiden looks crappy, that's not a big deal to port it for WiiU (I guess the WiiU version will be canceled, if the 360/PS3 versions bomb).
But AC III will be surely technical ambitious, so there won't be a port if WiiU can't stand against PS3/360. Developing for a new hardware is always more difficult than developing for a hardware you are used to since seven years.
Yep every since the pictures of the wiiu were released. No way this thing is power as people been saying. Its wayyy too small.
I been saying this the whole time and I still stand by this.
But really the gfx of the wiiu are not its selling point compared to the other consoles. ps4 and maybe nextbox are really going to be pushing gfx. At least the ps4 since the nextbox may be stuck on this nongamer bs. We will have to see....
It's 720p with no AA. It looks very bad on an image quality technical level.
test_account
XP-39C²
Someone should post that shot with Kratos flying a bit up in the air and all the ember/ash is around. That is one of my favorite GoW3 screenshots
It's not a real toilet.
Goes to show you haven't played GoW3. The game has very good anti aliasing. In fact it was one of the few games which when I played had hard time finding jaggies.
I am not going to sit and debate whether one blows another out of water clearly since WiiU hasn't even launched yet. Perhaps devs will push WiiU to new heights later in its life span. However, people should know when the argument is invalid. Then again, biases have a way of warping perception.
Classy. Topics like these really bring out the trolls.
Visualante2
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As much as I think God of War is kinda off topic, kinda bankrupt in gameplay. I respect it. And it's a bit of a shame that some people can't even acknowledge what a technical marvel it was, the shear ambition and craftsmanship that went into making it- just to defend a game that uses animated textures for eyes still.
Here's one thing people are kind of forgetting, even if WiiU games are identical on the main screen to their PS360 counterparts, they have to render a whole second screen. Indeed, it's lower resolution, but it's still a performance draw. Just to hit par, it needs to be notably more powerful.All developers need to do is lower the resolution from PS360 counterparts, I'm sure lot of you Nintendo guys won't notice it.
The OP story isn't plausible. The cost of something 3x this generation is probably about the same as 1x. You would have to not give a shit about profits to select components that are weaker. Not only because of reduced capabilities making things look worse, but also because it discourages even 360/PS3 ports to Wii U.
Horse Armour
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Pretty much. Wii U games better have anti aliasing or it won't matter how much better the graphics are.
GOW3 is probably the most impressive game out this gen. I don't know which game you played, but most of the textures are phenomenal and Kratos has to be the most detailed model to date on consoles, with the best IQ to boot. Per-object blur, MLAA, massive dynamic enviroments, outstanding geometry detail,etc all at a variably high framerate. You'd be hard-pressed to find a game more impressive.
No dude. Just... no. The tri-Ace demo looks nice, but it's a joke compared to even the Zelda demo. Even when it comes to lighting, which is what the tri-Ace demo was all about. Some very, very obvious objects in the tri-Ace demo don't even cast shadows, even thought they should. But surprisingly enough, people didn't even notice, so I guess we already hit the ceiling.Damn son...
Zelda tech demo
Tri Ace tech demo
GOW III
You may think Zelda demo looks better than these, but it doesn't. No, even if its off screen. Do I have to mention that GOW III avg. frame rate is ~40 fps while Zelda was 30 locked?
A next gen console is capable of getting current gen games.
Congrats?
I know, it has some great looking bits.
But we shouldn't compare a tech demo made quickly with a full game with many man hours put in.
MrNyarlathotep
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Which would mean more if most PS3 / 360 games managed 720p with decent AA as standard.
Green Yoshi
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