corrosivefrost
Member
Open world?
I think I'd rather get a gun, put it in my mouth, and pull the trigger. :lol
I think I'd rather get a gun, put it in my mouth, and pull the trigger. :lol
Possible Sonic reboot in 2014, would be open world
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Crumpet Trumpet
Banned
This is all very distressing. The life of a Sonic fan just can't ever be easy, can it?
Id be cool with "open world" if each zone was an open world (much like Sonic Adventure), with entrances to linear "acts" like generations or colors. I think I would embrace a game that let me jump planet to planet like that, almost like an homage to the old Phantasy Star games.
Though, I'm not to happy about the toy tie in Skylanders approach, and I have very little faith inSega Sonic Team pulling this off.
Edit: what is this... the fourth reboot now? (was unleashed a reboot???)
Though, I'm not to happy about the toy tie in Skylanders approach, and I have very little faith in
Edit: what is this... the fourth reboot now? (was unleashed a reboot???)
Imagine this:
- Open world
- Main character is Shadow
- Uses cars and guns again
- Pure GTA clone
I would not be surprised if Sega actually did that..
PeakPointMatrix
Member
If it was open-world like what was promised in this concept art, then I'd be okay...
Of course Sega would screw it up.
I want this.
TheCongressman1
Member
The best damn special stages ever, besides the new Sonic CD's, of course.
Oh lord.
On one hand, this fits with what Iizuka's been blathering on about recently about finding a new direction for Sonic. Plus certain parts of the fanbase have been crying for an open world game ever since that 2005 tech demo, so that idea has probably made its way back East by now.
On the other hand, an open world Sonic game is exactly the sort of really stupid fan-driven idea like Sonic Adventure 3 that even Sega isn't dumb enough to make, and the whole "engine is like UE4 or FB2" bit just screams faux insider throwing out buzzwords.
Let's see if TSSZ's Sonic Dimensions nonsense pans out first, it's about the time of year for Sega to announce this year's title.
On one hand, this fits with what Iizuka's been blathering on about recently about finding a new direction for Sonic. Plus certain parts of the fanbase have been crying for an open world game ever since that 2005 tech demo, so that idea has probably made its way back East by now.
On the other hand, an open world Sonic game is exactly the sort of really stupid fan-driven idea like Sonic Adventure 3 that even Sega isn't dumb enough to make, and the whole "engine is like UE4 or FB2" bit just screams faux insider throwing out buzzwords.
Let's see if TSSZ's Sonic Dimensions nonsense pans out first, it's about the time of year for Sega to announce this year's title.
Jake Tower
Banned
I'm not a Sonic expert, but maybe 'open world' is something Sonic needs to make use of his speed gimmick. I recall Sega explaining one issue portraying Sonic's speed in 3d games was the amount of in-game real estate necessary. If there's a big hub world like Burnout Paradise, Sonic can have plenty of 'track' to run on. Add shortcuts/areas that are only available via a 'speed tricks,' you might have a winning formula.
Oh god, oh god, oh god...
It's...it's going to be just like the Indiana Jones episode of South Park, isn't it?
It's OK, you're...not alone anymore. Together, we can bring Sega to justice...we can make sure they never do this to any beloved franchise, ever again. [everybody cries uncontrollably]
[Police break in to Sonic Team HQ to find them raping Alex Kidd, and the corpses of Cream the Rabbit and Tyris Flare hidden in the closet]
It's...it's going to be just like the Indiana Jones episode of South Park, isn't it?
It's OK, you're...not alone anymore. Together, we can bring Sega to justice...we can make sure they never do this to any beloved franchise, ever again. [everybody cries uncontrollably]
[Police break in to Sonic Team HQ to find them raping Alex Kidd, and the corpses of Cream the Rabbit and Tyris Flare hidden in the closet]
Dark Schala
Eloquent Princess
I was trying to find a screencap, but I can't find it... though you couldn't see them in their entirety.
The main takeaway was that his eyes were blue, and that his eyes seemed quite small. Given that the human models in that game weren't stellar to look at at all, I'm not really surprised that there's some apparent disproportionate stuff going on.
Are you (and others who are saying similar things in this thread) referring to Sonic 06?
Because that wasn't reboot. That was basically Sonic Adventure with a lick of HD paint and a extra special dash of awfulness.
A reboot would mean it wouldn't resemble any of the previous, existing mainline Sonic games whatsoever. That hasn't happened for a long time. Possibly since SA1.
Slamtastic
Member
Yeah, that's what I was thinking.
Non-Sonic 3D platformer levels, where the routes to the "star" equivalents involve getting up to speed in order to progress via loops/wallrunning, etc.
ShockingAlberto
Member
I feel like the major problem with new Sonic games is not so much design, but efficiency.
To make a game like Generations, that looks beautiful and is full of all these art assets you'll never see, takes a ton of time. If the rumors are true and it took them four years to make Generations (and they couldn't even get out a Wii version), then packing Sonic games with enough content to keep them from going to used game shelves within the release week is going to be the hard part.
Sonic's worst enemy is that Sonic games don't have enough content to be full-fledged releases, but fans are going to always demand high budgets that are reserved for full-fledged releases.
To make a game like Generations, that looks beautiful and is full of all these art assets you'll never see, takes a ton of time. If the rumors are true and it took them four years to make Generations (and they couldn't even get out a Wii version), then packing Sonic games with enough content to keep them from going to used game shelves within the release week is going to be the hard part.
Sonic's worst enemy is that Sonic games don't have enough content to be full-fledged releases, but fans are going to always demand high budgets that are reserved for full-fledged releases.
TheCongressman1
Member
So, I suppose the linear boostfest they have now is the type of genius Sonic needs? Fans have been outclassing Sega for quite some time now.
Also, here's a fan's take on the open world gameplay. Looks amazing to me.
Sonic 06 was originally a reboot at some point if that says anything.
EDIT:
"So, I suppose the linear boostfest they have now is the type of genius Sonic needs? "
I'm pretty sure Generations wasn't linear.
AzureSkies
Member
>TSSZ
>'News'
Terrible website with "journalism" that has been known to release false information all the time, looking forward to the Sonic Dimensions aka fan characters the game that they "leaked" half a year ago for the Wii U.
>'News'
Terrible website with "journalism" that has been known to release false information all the time, looking forward to the Sonic Dimensions aka fan characters the game that they "leaked" half a year ago for the Wii U.
I am expecting a reboot of sorts for Sonic's 25th anniversary based on what Iizuka-san has said about upcoming Sonic games, but I don't think it would work this way.
Iizuka-san likes power, in an old Sonic Adventure interview he talked about how he used the power of the dreamcast to show that Sonic Adventure was a bigger and better game then any of the past Sonic games.
I'm expecting something along the lines of Sonic Adventure 3, possibly open world, with "real time lighting calculation" as iizuka-san would say, with a brand new engine made for next generation consoles.
Iizuka-san likes power, in an old Sonic Adventure interview he talked about how he used the power of the dreamcast to show that Sonic Adventure was a bigger and better game then any of the past Sonic games.
I'm expecting something along the lines of Sonic Adventure 3, possibly open world, with "real time lighting calculation" as iizuka-san would say, with a brand new engine made for next generation consoles.
Sure, and then Sonic Team... well, happened. To themselves. Which is why I keep saying Sonic needs to go to a quality third party developer.
Combichristoffersen
Combovers don't work when there is no hair
That looks fucking amazing. Even the music in the video was good.
Why does it seem like Sonic fans are better at making Sonic games than Sega themselves are these days, even though Generations was mostly good? :<
Yeah, like Nintendo Software Technology! I hear they have some hot new talent.
Where is this from? I want to know so I can avoid it. Uguu.
Oh, so this isn't even true? Pre-next-gen pre-E3 sucks.
Uguu.
Dark Schala
Eloquent Princess
It's too bad, because I love how the Hedgehog Engine makes things look.
Sonic Unleashed and Sonic Generations have absolutely beautiful landscapes complemented by the lighting.
TheCongressman1
Member
Ever so slowly Sonic Team will trickle over to Nintendo.
Probably not, but I kind of hope it is.
Combichristoffersen
Combovers don't work when there is no hair
Nintendo would make Sonic shine. But I'd never get to play the games then as I don't buy Nintendo consoles. Hm.
Dusk Golem
A 21st Century Rockefeller
As others have said, don't even buy this. This is TSSZ, they've been known to release a lot of false news and rumors.
personally, I think if this was a legit leak, it would be a lot less details. No one would risk their job like this, especially not in this economy.
seems like some fan, went and read iizuka's past interviews, and then made up a tale based around facts. Which would make it more believable. That is how I see it, anyways.
So, don't panic yet
just enjoy Sonic Generations and worry about the next Sonic game once it's officially announced.
seems like some fan, went and read iizuka's past interviews, and then made up a tale based around facts. Which would make it more believable. That is how I see it, anyways.
So, don't panic yet
just enjoy Sonic Generations and worry about the next Sonic game once it's officially announced.I agree with this 100%. Nostalgia for the franchise demands a style of gameplay that isn't feasible in this era of gaming, and any attempts to shake up the formula has resulted in spectacular failure.
TheCongressman1
Member
Hmm, green eyes... This seems legit.
Resolution
Member
oh god no
Dr. Kitty Muffins
Member
I've been begging for an Open World Sonic with Prince of Persia style platforming for AGES.
Rising_Hei
Member
Haha, this sounds so like Sonic Adventure 3 
If they don't remove traditional phases... :/
If they don't remove traditional phases... :/
The better parts of Generations are neither linear nor particularly heavy on boosting. There's unexplored room for growth within that model.
Oh good, a completely hazard-free environment that's either too wide open to be interesting or too tight to be playable at those speeds by anyone who hasn't already memorized the map. Same problems we already have on a larger scale. What they've built is a Sonic simulator, a way in which to experience running through a world as Sonic.
TheCongressman1
Member
Just as I have said earlier in the thread.
There is no reason they could not fit that level design in a open world environment. Open world to some seems to mean empty, it doesn't.
As for that Demo, that's exactly what it is. It's just a demo. The work that has been done on it is fantastic, and there is plenty for potential. In one sense, it is a Sonic simulator, and I don't see what is wrong with that. People seem to be content with zooming around on a rollercoaster in Unleashed, how is this any worse?
Man, that console has several great games I want, but I won't buy it because...
Combichristoffersen
Combovers don't work when there is no hair
Because I don't care about Nintendo's first party games and they've had absolutely pitiful third party support since the N64, so it would be a waste of time and money for me. It would end up getting no use.
RurouniZel
Asks questions so Ezalc doesn't have to
Well, having good Sonic games was fun while it lasted. :-/
D
Deleted member 81567
Unconfirmed Member
Leaked concept art.
And so it begins.
Barkley's Justice
Member
Look at you guys go...Holding onto the dream...
ShockingAlberto
Member
Generations did not sell very well.
This is probably because it missed the biggest Sonic-buying console userbase, but at the end of the day, a "struggling" SEGA is going to try and go to what makes them money.