Possible Sonic reboot in 2014, would be open world
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I remember reading someone say that Sonic Team was practically rebuilt after Sonic '06. If that's true, then this current version of Sonic Team has two-and-a-half solid titles under their belt. IF that's true.
Hot Coldman
Banned
You're only as good as your last game! Anyway, since the restructuring Sonic Team put out Unleashed (meh), Colours (good) and Generations (also good), plus PSO2 looks pretty cool, so for the current studio, their track record is actually OK.
It's Iizuka's track record that's the issue.
BlazingDarkness
Member
Why do people still care about Sonic?
It's the equivalent of say, SE, releasing 5 FFXIII games for every [insert your favourite FF here].
You think people would wise up and just decide not to give a shit anymore
It's obvious they have no idea what the fans want
It's the equivalent of say, SE, releasing 5 FFXIII games for every [insert your favourite FF here].
You think people would wise up and just decide not to give a shit anymore
It's obvious they have no idea what the fans want
If only the name matters to you, not the gameplay or anything else, then just put a fucking sticker on your Sonic Unleashed, Colours or Generations box and there you go, you have your Sonic Adventure 3.
checkeredknight
Member
I'm starting to feel this way too. There used to be a point where I'd buy anything with SONIC written on it (hell I bought Zero Gravity at launch... on Wii.) I feel there are still a lot of people who are like this. For example, the people who happily paid 800MS Points for the SEGA Racing DLC (one track and one character) when it first hit the marketplace with a pricing error. If I like the look of a Sonic game, I'll get it. To be honest, I have mostly enjoyed recent titles quite a bit, but still quite a lot of aspects from each game have left me disappointed.
Why shouldn't I care about games I've enjoyed in the past few years?
I didn't care about Sonic whatsoever from Adventure 2 through (but not including) Unleashed.
Once I started enjoying the games again I started caring again.
Combichristoffersen
Combovers don't work when there is no hair
Put a sticker on Shadow the Hedgehog and pretend it's really Sonic Adventure 3: Dark Shadow or whatever
Dark Schala
Eloquent Princess
Or he could use the Japanese box for Sonic Unleashed and edit out "world" and add in the 3.
Woah, don't freak out man! You get me wrong I think. :/
By this I mean that the fact that no game has been called Sonic Adventure 3 yet gives them a chance to actually make a good game out of this, instead of assuming that 06 is SA3. This fact open doors to make a really better story for the adventure series because, I guess we can agree on this, 06's story is total BS.
Trust me, I do not just want the name, I want a good game that could be an actual descent sequel. I enjoyed the Adventure series, I personally started to think the whole Sonic series went downfall after SA2. I know many people thinks it started at SA, but I was young and hyped by the Dreamcast back then and both SA 1 and 2 blew my mind. So those have this kind of nostalgia value to me.
But none of this will happen I suppose because it's a reboot after all.
Imperial Hot
Banned
There has to be a way to setup a Kickstarter to raise money to keep this from happening.
So let me get this straight, after getting so damn close to "getting" Sonic in terms of tone while creating a new style of game play that could stand on its own if Sega learns the golden balance between content and presentation, they're pull an IRL derp as a company and saying "starting over gaiz!"
Yea, this is definitely a Sega move. Holy fuck. =/
Edit: Oh yeah, WTF at this Skylanders shit? :lol
How about some doggamned Genesis era DLC for Generations if you want shit that will actually sell faster than cocaine Sega?
Yea, this is definitely a Sega move. Holy fuck. =/
Edit: Oh yeah, WTF at this Skylanders shit? :lol
How about some doggamned Genesis era DLC for Generations if you want shit that will actually sell faster than cocaine Sega?
PeakPointMatrix
Member
So a track record turns good games into bad and unenjoyable ones?
CrunchinJelly
formerly cjelly
Hopefully Iizuka has nothing to do with it.
SafeinSound
Member
Let it die.
EricDiesel
Member
The Sonic Adventure name has been dead since the Gamecube outside of Japan. Why bring it back in 2012? Kids that get their parents to buy them Sonic games have no idea the first two exist.
Well SA is already on PSN/XBLA/Steam.
Add SA2 and the whole story is now accessible for all.
Don't say that SEGA are only targeting 'kids' with Sonic, look at Generations, its just full of old school stuff for us to smile at.
Plus I guess that a quick resume of the story could be easily done in an opening video or something like that.
Hot Coldman
Banned
Producer, count on it.
lunchwithyuzo
Banned
Sonicmu Chapter 1: Yokosuka
HyperBitHero
Member
The working Sonic formula right not is all about removing all freedom from the player. How are they going to do an open world game?
EricDiesel
Member
Well SA is already on PSN/XBLA/Steam.
Add SA2 and the whole story is now accessible for all.
Don't say that SEGA are only targeting 'kids' with Sonic, look at Generations, its just full of old school stuff for us to smile at.
Plus I guess that a quick resume of the story could be easily done in an opening video or something like that.
Not to sound condescending, but you're sort of missing my argument. What does Sega gain by releasing a "Sonic Adventure 3" instead of calling that same game "Sonic Journey" or any other inane combination of words? Outside of gamers that had Dreamcasts and/or Gamecubes a decade ago, that name means absolutely nothing. I'm pretty sure that series is over as far as Sega is concerned.
I actually wouldn't mind a reboot to the Sonic series in terms of storyline and whatever. Seems like outside of the main cast of Sonic, Eggman, Tails, and Knuckles, everybody else has become pretty disposable by now anyway and none of the recent games have any real constancy between them. From that aspect I don't think it hurts the franchise all that much, unless they choose to pull a DmC with it.
But the ideas for what the game itself should actually be....eugh. By this point I don't have any faith in Sonic Team to create a reliably-controlling game in 3-D, and throwing it into an open world will only highlight a lot of those issues. The only upside I could see in that is a decrease in the amount of insta-death pits to accidentally hurdle yourself into. Maybe.
And the monetization aspect...I understand their motivation for doing it, but it won't work. I guess at least it's an improvement if their benchmark for game sales is Skylanders level, as opposed to everybody else who wants to turn their franchises into Call of Duty.
But the ideas for what the game itself should actually be....eugh. By this point I don't have any faith in Sonic Team to create a reliably-controlling game in 3-D, and throwing it into an open world will only highlight a lot of those issues. The only upside I could see in that is a decrease in the amount of insta-death pits to accidentally hurdle yourself into. Maybe.
And the monetization aspect...I understand their motivation for doing it, but it won't work. I guess at least it's an improvement if their benchmark for game sales is Skylanders level, as opposed to everybody else who wants to turn their franchises into Call of Duty.
BassForever
Member
I really don't get what Sega is thinking, they had Sonic back on track with Colors and Generations, just copy that don't do something gimmicky and open world >_<
Meccanical
Member
You could say current Sonic is gimmicky.
Or he could use the Japanese box for Sonic Unleashed and edit out "world" and add in the 3.
man, that's a very ugly boxart. :/
DICKS AHOY
Banned
Jesus died for Sonic's sins
why did the artist make sonic so well hung in that picture
I'd say that's still a strong audience to target.
Maybe it's just me, but a new Sonic game called SA3 would get me hyped as hell. Any other name than SA3 wouldn't be cannon to the SA series so the story would be initially different, like Colors, Unleashed and Generations, which all have a story of their own.
So simply being called 'SA3' would make it look like something big that would blow our mind, because fail for a 'main title' like this would be really bad for them. The thing is that 06 is basically 'cannon' and follows SA2's story...kinda. So releasing a SA3 would kind of rehash this part of the story that has been badly beaten. If the games is just well done, good and fun, I can only expect success for this kind of project.
Or I'm just being too positive.
EricDiesel
Member
Even if it is (which I think is debatable), it's still a limited, niche audience. If Sega wants to expand audiences they can't rely on brand recognition of a series that hasn't seen a new entry since 2001. You can't run on nostalgia forever.
SoulUnison
Banned
What is wrong with Sega!?
Sonic Generations was sooooo goooood! It's a living, breathing horse! Let's at least beat *that* formula to death before we create a NEW disaster!
Sonic Generations was sooooo goooood! It's a living, breathing horse! Let's at least beat *that* formula to death before we create a NEW disaster!
Combichristoffersen
Combovers don't work when there is no hair
Unless you're Nintendo.
EricDiesel
Member
Yeah, because nostalgia is all Nintendo has going for it. It's not like it has unique hardware or gameplay innovations to go along with that nostalgia. Nope.
Yeah, because nostalgia is all Nintendo has going for it. It's not like it has unique hardware or gameplay innovations to go along with that nostalgia. Nope.
Maaaan, what did you say?
Combichristoffersen
Combovers don't work when there is no hair
Yeah, because nostalgia is all Nintendo has going for it. It's not like it has unique hardware or gameplay innovations to go along with that nostalgia. Nope.
Those gameplay innovations are just there to draw your attention to their characters to ignite your nostalgia and make you buy Super Mario Knitting Simulator or whatever.
I was joking.
Sonic 2014!
Oh ..damn! XD
EricDiesel
Member
I figured haha. But I'm sure certain people actually feel that way. "All they release is sequels!!!" and all that.
Combichristoffersen
Combovers don't work when there is no hair
A Super Mario Knitting Simulator would admittedly be an interesting experiment with the Wiimote + Nunchuk. You could have knitting contests with Mario universe characters, learn knitting tricks and download new knitting patterns from Nintendo. Would be a surefire hit with their expanded audience of grannies
Came here to post this. Given what they've done with Sonic until now, it would be a total mess.
Hitlersaurus Christ
Banned
This would be absolutely terrible if true, but keep in mind that the site that posted this is notorious for sensationalism, and this wouldn't be the first false rumor they've been given.
Shadow Hog
Member
I know it's been said a good 3-4 times already, but it bears repeating: TSSZ is not a reliable news source. Tristan has been known to run articles on the flimsiest of rumors and speculation, with little to no regard for journalistic integrity.
Exempli gratia: a few years back, a bunch of fangame authors decided to have a joke at his expense, and came together on an IRC channel to announce they were all getting together into one team to produce the most bombastic, largescale, utterly impossible fangame in existence, deliberately hyping up obviously fake features and bullet points such that most people could probably tell they weren't being serious in the slightest.
Tristan had a story on it within the day, taking it all at face value.
So yeah, don't believe this until a reliable source rolls around.
On the other hand, an open world Sonic game has its appeal... I loved dicking around in SA1's Adventure stages. I doubt modern Sega could pull it off, though; not even sure the Sega of THEN could do it.
Exempli gratia: a few years back, a bunch of fangame authors decided to have a joke at his expense, and came together on an IRC channel to announce they were all getting together into one team to produce the most bombastic, largescale, utterly impossible fangame in existence, deliberately hyping up obviously fake features and bullet points such that most people could probably tell they weren't being serious in the slightest.
Tristan had a story on it within the day, taking it all at face value.
So yeah, don't believe this until a reliable source rolls around.
On the other hand, an open world Sonic game has its appeal... I loved dicking around in SA1's Adventure stages. I doubt modern Sega could pull it off, though; not even sure the Sega of THEN could do it.