FateBreaker
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Indeed.
Game Informer May 2012 Cover revealed: Halo 4
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Indeed.
Im_So_Pringles
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Gaming side Halo threads are such a fucking joke anymore. Why even bother posting them? The only things people ever come in here to say are, "milked, meh, halo is dum, halo's visuals suck, kinect sucks, M$, milked, milked, and the not so often- Halo's pretty cool; looking forward to it!"
Oh well, I'm personally looking forward to 343's Halo 4. The winds of change are moving through!
Oh well, I'm personally looking forward to 343's Halo 4. The winds of change are moving through!
I understand why you want ADS, plenty of my friends have said the same thing. However there's little denying that ADS makes no sense in Halo, not just from a gameplay mechanic perspective but it also makes no sense in the canon of the Halo universe itself.
Halo 1 was a graphical standout for years and Halo 2 was one of the best looking console games when it launched (graphical bugs aside). This really isn't the truth.
The main problem or difference between last gen to this gen is the xbox was ~2x the power of the ps2, so they could afford the more expansive play areas of Halo while still looking better. However this generation, the ps3 and 360 are basically a wash in terms of performance, so games with larger play areas are automatically set to a disadvantage against those with more linear designs.
Muffdraul
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Apparently I should have been a journalist.
InaudibleWhispa
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Anyone saying that this generation has peaked. Specifically those naming names for why Halo 4 could never be jaw dropping, as if one thing is objectively better than another to everyone.
Incidentally, Red Dead Redemption is the most jaw dropping game I've played this generation. If it was revealed today, it would make my jaw drop despite the claims that nothing can top Uncharted/Gears/GoW/Killzone because I'd take scale, setting and style into consideration (and dat sunset)
*Complains about being saturated by the offerings of a franchise*
*Plays Zelda and Mario games*
Can't wait to get the details, halo is like the only shooter series I even enjoy anymore, all other shooters just kinda make me frustrated for some reason.
Also I'm in the camp that doesn't want them to change too much, already skeptical about the exp system that effects gameplay, hate that shit so much, and some of you people want irons sights? UGH.
Also I'm in the camp that doesn't want them to change too much, already skeptical about the exp system that effects gameplay, hate that shit so much, and some of you people want irons sights? UGH.
Yeah but it's about the pixels and fps dude, not the final product. Duh!
I know how to settle this ADS issue.
Include a separate control scheme that lets people aim down sights of weapons, whether they have scopes, irons, or not.
Just like in every game with ADS your aiming and movement would slow down once in ADS. If you're holding an assault rifle you're going to be staring right at a huge LED ammo display in your screen. Hey, you wanted ADS in Halo, deal with it.
Bunch of alien guns don't come with iron sights? Deal with it, aim awkwardly the best you can. Don't worry, your movement will slow down and your aim sensitivity will be hella slow.
Then we'll see how the ADS players fare against the normal players. If they want to feel hindered for the sake of a modern trend in shooters and realism, so be it.
Include a separate control scheme that lets people aim down sights of weapons, whether they have scopes, irons, or not.
Just like in every game with ADS your aiming and movement would slow down once in ADS. If you're holding an assault rifle you're going to be staring right at a huge LED ammo display in your screen. Hey, you wanted ADS in Halo, deal with it.
Bunch of alien guns don't come with iron sights? Deal with it, aim awkwardly the best you can. Don't worry, your movement will slow down and your aim sensitivity will be hella slow.
Then we'll see how the ADS players fare against the normal players. If they want to feel hindered for the sake of a modern trend in shooters and realism, so be it.
The persecution complex some Halo fans have is absolutely sad. Every major franchise gets shit on by a certain subsection of the population. Besides, nothing in here is even close to the vitrol that is being aimed at Mass Effect at the moment.
Doesn't the assault rifle actually have sights? I thought the ammo counter/cover thingy concealed them.
I agree with you though
Have fun aiming down the plasma rifle's sights!
Uno Venova
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I was asking who specifically, that mindet that you laid out, didn't see that often.
I personally think we can still be blown away no problem.
True.
His point is that there's not much point in going into a thread about a game you don't like just to bash it. I'm an outspoken critic of Call of Duty, but I don't venture into CoD threads and poke fun at the game and harass its fans. I'm ok if someone doesn't like the same things I do, but I can't help but feel a little upset when someone actively goes out of their way to belittle something I enjoy.
There's a line between trolling and simply expressing displeasure. Some are in here upset that it's "only" Halo 4, for a multitude of reasons. And there are some that are trolling the game. But seeing posts constantly about how GAF hates Halo is even worse than the trolling. Most here have said their peace and have left. I don't think there's anything wrong with coming into a thread about a hyped GameInformer reveal and being disappointed that it's a game someone was already expecting. It happened with the Assassin's Creed III reveal, it happened with that god awful South Park RPG and it'll happen with the next unveiling. Halo is no different than any other franchise, except that often its fans are simply more vocal than others.
InaudibleWhispa
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I'm not going to go through and give you a list of names. I've told you what kind of people I'm talking about, if you want to know who then read the thread and note the people saying things along those lines.
BrLvgThrChmstry
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This is the only game series where they literally don't have to or need to change a thing to keep it's fanbase satisfied. Not saying its a good or bad thing. Its always funny reading these threads... the amount of hyperbole, hypocrisy, and ignorance (from both sides). From comments made about the addition of new gameplay features and/or elements and how they will cripple the very foundation of the core game to its very knees, etc. (Personally, I'd love to see the Halo franchise take some chances in that regard, even if reach was only the beginning -- Change doesn't have to equate to Halo becoming like CoD, use your imagination).
Can't wait to learn more I guess.
Can't wait to learn more I guess.
I'd say the Halo 'hate' factor is pretty much up there in terms of game series. Just sitting in a Halo thread, watching news come in and the utter loads of SHIT that flood those threads with people who wouldn't even bother playing Halo is the first place is not imaginary. That's okay though, discussion is good.
And the anger about Mass Effect is internal. From superfans who have invested heart and soul into those games. The Halo stuff is mostly external.
I feel this problem lies with the person, don't get hyped up and you won't be disappointed. But to be petty that it isn't what you expected is just wrong.
If people are disappointed about the cover story and want to discuss that, no problem. My issue is pretty much the same as many others, in that many people just want to hate on a game without even giving reasons. I will admit that this applies to a relatively small group of people, it's just that the act of entering a thread featuring Halo just to post "Halo is terrible!" makes no sense to me.
And I agree, that ME3 hatred is the most intense I've ever seen over a game. One of my friends is a diehard fan of the series, and even he's pissed about the ending, lol.
Uno Venova
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I did read the thread, personally, I think it's bullshit that many people feel that way it's just the way people try to paint others who aren't happy it was halo.
Oh I agree. The monthly GameInformer hype cycle is humorous and rarely delivers on what people want/expect. They have themselves to blame, yes. But there's still nothing wrong with expressing displeasure of it. Then there's those that don't get hyped, and are simply shaking their heads each month at the baits and teases -- teasers of announcements of announcements. People have as much right to come into a thread and say GameInformer baited them with hype as much as someone has to come in and spaz about how great of a reveal it is.
EliteArtist
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As far as covers go, I've seen MUCH better. It doesn't hype, thrill, or even generate intrigue. I've seen compositions like this often and it works on a level, but as far as first impressions it's lack luster.
BrLvgThrChmstry
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...You act this the only thread that has been affected by this common phenomenon. And the reason why? ..because its a series/game you enjoy. I'm sure that I won't find posting in many other threads/games commenting on this issue because you don't have as much of a emotional investment in them as you do with Halo. It clearly wasn't a problem till your beloved franchise was caught in the crosshairs, and understandably, it bothers you moreso.
Why not ignore or simply not acknowledge said comments? or better yet, create a community thread so you and all your halo brethren can rejoice and marvel at said unveiling, and post nothing but good and positive things to say and maybe perhaps you can sit in a large circle and see where it goes from there.
I really don't mind those kinds of people to be honest, most who where dissatisfied stated it and moved on. My problem lies with more the people that came in because it was Halo related, that had nothing to do with the hype thread but more the franchise as a whole. Those comments where either not well laid out or just baiting. I hate stuff like that in every thread.
Ichabod
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I can understand some individuals being over-sensitive to knee-jerk reactions from the peanut gallery. However, you have to understand you're in a general discussion thread, not the Shire your used to in Community.
For the record, though, I believe H4 has an opportunity to do what Reach couldn't and make Halo relevant again. That's not to say I feel H4 has to become some reviled dudebro-michaelbayfest-guitar-riff-congratulating-me-for-learning-to-tie-my-own-shoes-FPS-blockbuster. I'm just saying, I believe its foolish to stubbornly eliminate options just because "This aint CoD damnit." Just because you reinvent yourself doesn't mean you can't stay true to your roots.
Like it or not, the next games will have to embrace change (even if, God forbid, it lifts inspiration from CoD or BF) otherwise H4 will see a surge of new players at release them go back to being a diehard graveyard like Reach.
For the record, though, I believe H4 has an opportunity to do what Reach couldn't and make Halo relevant again. That's not to say I feel H4 has to become some reviled dudebro-michaelbayfest-guitar-riff-congratulating-me-for-learning-to-tie-my-own-shoes-FPS-blockbuster. I'm just saying, I believe its foolish to stubbornly eliminate options just because "This aint CoD damnit." Just because you reinvent yourself doesn't mean you can't stay true to your roots.
Like it or not, the next games will have to embrace change (even if, God forbid, it lifts inspiration from CoD or BF) otherwise H4 will see a surge of new players at release them go back to being a diehard graveyard like Reach.
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InaudibleWhispa
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Anyone in this and the other Game Informer reveal thread stating that Halo 4 can't be jaw dropping/very impressive because Uncharted/Killzone/Gears/GoW exist and that the 360 has peaked are implying that it doesn't and can't get better this generation. That is the entire crux of their argument, how is it bullshit?
My argument is that it doesn't matter how good other franchises look, the best looking Halo ever could easily drop jaws for a Halo fan. That you need to take scale and style into consideration when judging Halo because it is doing very different things to the likes of Killzone and CoD. Things that have an impact on the visuals, but not in a way that can't be improved upon this generation.
The game names that pop up time and time again do imply that a generation peaks only when the best visuals are accomplished via scripted/linear games because those are the only ones that can get away with extra visual flair without effecting gameplay because the action is tighter and more predictable. Plus, as I said earlier, visuals are altogether subjective anyway, as I argued by stating that RDR trumps the aforementioned examples in my opinion.
Franklinator
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^I think Halo 3 Cortana looks best
Muffdraul
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She's always been a hologram of a naked chick. What's changed is the level of detail has gone up with the gfx tech.
Franklinator
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hahahahaha
Bahhahahahahhaha.... wrong place bro.
ViewtifulJC
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We already do that, and then we point and laugh at Gaming Side and how superior we are to those fools who doubt Halo
GarthVaderUK
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As Halo 4 is the return of the most iconic Halo characters (Master Chief and Cortana) and the continuation of their story after 5 years of waiting/cryo, I think it makes sense to give them primary place on the cover - I reckon Chief's return will certainly get a lot of folks out there hyped.
abacab driver
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343 is going to make the haters' life a living hell come E3.
Phonomezer
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Watch "it's not as impressive as I thought it would be" become the haters mantra.
toddhunter
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This is true, but not how the Halo games are generally revealed or hyped before hand. They are presented as being of the same graphic quality as the linear games you mentioned, which does not turn out to be the case.
Of course if they could do it, this would be jaw dropping. But unless this is for the 720, they have no chance of doing so but people will still believe it and argue about it which annoys a lot of people (like me). You will either get people with poor expectations or haters, not a great mix.
Anyway, has the back been revealed? Hopefully that is more interesting.
You and me both.
walking fiend
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can some1 please link the screenshots? Have they shown them yet?
So if I post ignorant troll-type posts in the next Uncharted reveal thread, are you going to blindly defend me too?
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