Analyst on Wii U: "Competitive position has deteriorated", "No Activision support".

Well it's not false if it's true, and I'm willing to wager that a corporate financial analyst has a better view of things and more resources/sources than most on GAF.

However, I don't want it to be true. How much did the Wii CoD games sell? Maybe they don't think it's worth the effort to "downport" any longer.

The Wii versions of COD were still legging it out to around a million units sold. Thats with having to basically build the entire game from ground up for the Wii.

Wii U is just a case of porting so even if it only still sells a million they will have invested alot less cash
 
No Activision support is bad news for Nintendo.

It's not news at all. There's zero chance that Activision is ignoring the Wii U.

And Activision not supporting WiiU... I can see it for a couple reasons.

#1 how involved is EA in the Nintendo Network?

#2 CoD has to compete with Battlefield. To do so they have to squeeze every ounce of tech they can into the series. Dumbing it down just so it can be on WiiU isn't going to help. Saying, even if it's a bit of a lie, that the next CoD can't be run on WiiU makes their game look stronger.
Don't be stupid. There's a yearly COD on Wii every year that sells a million in its own right.

Activision is not in the business of judging consoles. It is in the business of porting games to everything available to maximise the earnings. This isn't difficult.
 
Well it's not false if it's true, and I'm willing to wager that a corporate financial analyst has a better view of things and more resources/sources than most on GAF.

However, I don't want it to be true. How much did the Wii CoD games sell? Maybe they don't think it's worth the effort to "downport" any longer.

Activision would put CoD on your toaster if they could. CoD will be on Wii U.
 
Nintendo doomed as always.

Can't remember a recent Nintendo device that wasn't predicted to be a total failure.

DS, Wii, 3DS and now Wii U. All doomed I tell you!
Well, to be fair, most of the successful Nintendo products probably would have been absolute failures if produced and marketed by anyone else.
But, once again, as stated by Activision, never bet against them. They could sell pretty much anything.
 
So now there's criticism coming from Japan.

We knew Kojima said he wasn't going to support the WiiU with his next big project.

And Activision not supporting WiiU... I can see it for a couple reasons.

#1 how involved is EA in the Nintendo Network?

#2 CoD has to compete with Battlefield. To do so they have to squeeze every ounce of tech they can into the series. Dumbing it down just so it can be on WiiU isn't going to help. Saying, even if it's a bit of a lie, that the next CoD can't be run on WiiU makes their game look stronger.
 
Hmmmm. Even the N-Gage got some very superficial support from EA and yet we're lead to believe that Activision will completely ignore the WiiU?

Sounds to me that the article is confusing PS360 ports with original, EXCLUSIVE, specifically developed Activision titles for the WiiU.

I'd imagine that the WiiU would at least..., at least get a port of whatever COD spin off that the Vita is getting.
 
Guy is clearly spreading rumours in order to influence the investment markets. There's no way any analyst worth their salt would give away free advice to everyone in the world.
 
I can't see Activision just not supporting the Wii U. They even make Wii versions of CoD, Spider-Man, Transformers, etc. Not to mention, I'm sure most of Skylanders' sales was from little kids on the Wii/3DS.

Can't say I'd care either way though. The Wii U will probably just be for Nintendo games and a few rare 3rd party exclusives for me.
 
If Activision doesn't support it I'll be shocked.

They support everything.
 
So now there's criticism coming from Japan.

We knew Kojima said he wasn't going to support the WiiU with his next big project.

And Activision not supporting WiiU... I can see it for a couple reasons.

#1 how involved is EA in the Nintendo Network?

#2 CoD has to compete with Battlefield. To do so they have to squeeze every ounce of tech they can into the series. Dumbing it down just so it can be on WiiU isn't going to help. Saying, even if it's a bit of a lie, that the next CoD can't be run on WiiU makes their game look stronger.

your not honestly believing what this guy is saying are u? cuz if u do, i'm dating Katy Perry...
 
Too bad most of what he says seems bullshit, so I seriously doubt he has any insider knowledge.

They released CoD on Wii/DS and yet he honestly thinks they won't port the game to Wii U ? Didn't we even have a "game based on the new 007 movie will come to Wii U" thread a few days ago ? His information seems to be based on guessing and reading stupid rumors on video game news sites combined with "ALL HAIL APPLE".

And what is this 4 screen infrastructure he's referring to, is he really referring to families/households using 4 iPads ? Is he honestly expecting that to be the standard ?

The four screen strategy is Mobile, Tablet, PC, and TV.
 
So now there's criticism coming from Japan.

We knew Kojima said he wasn't going to support the WiiU with his next big project.

And Activision not supporting WiiU... I can see it for a couple reasons.

#1 how involved is EA in the Nintendo Network?

#2 CoD has to compete with Battlefield. To do so they have to squeeze every ounce of tech they can into the series. Dumbing it down just so it can be on WiiU isn't going to help. Saying, even if it's a bit of a lie, that the next CoD can't be run on WiiU makes their game look stronger.
On the second point..... wat? My brain hurts.
 
Lets be honest, Mario and Zelda on iOS would be fantastic for Nintendo. Make it F2P even and have extra levels cost cash. Keep the full version on the 3DS/Wii U. BOOM Rainbow full of gold.
 
#2 CoD has to compete with Battlefield. To do so they have to squeeze every ounce of tech they can into the series. Dumbing it down just so it can be on WiiU isn't going to help. Saying, even if it's a bit of a lie, that the next CoD can't be run on WiiU makes their game look stronger.

"CoD can't be run on the Wii U, the game is too graphically intensive and there's no way we could downport it to the Wii U. Here's CoD vita btw."


your not honestly believing what this guy is saying are u? cuz if u do, i'm dating Katy Perry...
You should say "there's a bridge I'd like you sell you, and it's not the wii U"
 
We understand that, contrarily to previous rumors, the WiiU will not be capable of making coffee. We therefore suggest to sell all available stock immediately, lie down, and assume the party escort submission position to not miss the party.
 
On the second point..... wat? My brain hurts.

OK so how about the first point?

Because it has been speculated a bunch since Ricitello came out on stage with Nintendo at the last e3 that EA may have a huge hand in helping Nintendo with the online.

If EA is handling Nintendos online there would be a huge reason for Activision not to support the WiiU.
 
Yeah, I would listen to this guy. Giving stock advice based on vague rumours.

To be honest, I wouldn't invest in Nintendo right now either. I would risk it right before E3 in the off chance that they will rise after all the announcements.
 
Lets be honest, Mario and Zelda on iOS would be fantastic for Nintendo. Make it F2P even and have extra levels cost cash. Keep the full version on the 3DS/Wii U. BOOM Rainbow full of gold.

...And watch the market drain away when people realise that they no longer need to buy a Nintendo console to get exclusive Nintendo experiences, even reduced ones.

Come on, we've been through all of this a thousand times over.

OK so how about the first point?

Because it has been speculated a bunch since Ricitello came out on stage with Nintendo at the last e3 that EA may have a huge hand in helping Nintendo with the online.

If EA is handling Nintendos online there would be a huge reason for Activision not to support the WiiU.
There's a hell of a lot of ifs, there.

If you think there's any chance that Nintendo have had the Nintendo Network dictated to them by EA, you're certifiably crazy.
 
Yep. All their B-Titles, spin-offs, and B-teams were put on the wii to work. And then two years later, nobody could understand why their games weren't selling.

The Core base never got cultivated or created, except for the Nintendo franchises. It really needed a Gears of War of the life to bring in all the gamers to its systems.

The fact that it didn't have an online infrastructure to support that kind of game didn't help at all either.
My post wasn't really so much about what the Wii was lacking. It was about what publishers and third parties were doing to fuel the HD train. Those petz games and all that shovelware would have killed anyone brave enough to dump them on the 360 or PS3 so they took full advantage of it on the Wii. I wonder how well things would have turned out for Capcom if they never made RE4:Wii Edition or Umbrella Chronicles. Other companies in the industry also had similar successes that never led to anything serious for the system(you can bet that money went towards some nice HD projects though).

I'm not really bitching because the Wii's problem for me was not it's software. The console was a wreck when it came to online infrastructure and basic community features like voice chat and such.
 
Wait... Has Konami supported Wii and DS in a relevant way? I'd say no.

u guys are gonna hate me or agree with me but Konami is a former shell of itself. i don't see them as nowhere near having relevancy anymore in comparison to the other big 3rd parties. all the top franchises have been replaced by MGS lol.
 
Nintendo doomed as always.

Can't remember a recent Nintendo device that wasn't predicted to be a total failure.

DS, Wii, 3DS and now Wii U. All doomed I tell you!

3DS was predicted to be a success by almost everyone before it came out and has underperformed nearly everyone's expectations aside from Japan.
 
Interesting.......


Disappointed that Nintendo are dropping the ball for 3rd parties again after promising to work with them more.


Seems like the Wii U will be another Nintendo Console that people buy just to play Nintendo games.
 
OK so how about the first point?

Because it has been speculated a bunch since Ricitello came out on stage with Nintendo at the last e3 that EA may have a huge hand in helping Nintendo with the online.

If EA is handling Nintendos online there would be a huge reason for Activision not to support the WiiU.
Can't answer the first point because we don't know enough. Right now we know NiN is going to have accounts for WiiU. Plus NiN is being used in some 3DS games so we know atm EA has nothing to do with that. So my first point is pointless :p .
 
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