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[strafer]

This man here is the reason I even picked up a guitar.

Before I start playing I go to a little shrine, say a little prayer and then finish off with the horns.

He has written some of the best riffs in music and he has a voice like no other.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jw67-SaUA5I

Look at dem handlebars

 

[Derrick01]

87-93 James is best James. He looked the best and had the most amazing voice for any band, let alone a metal band which are known for having terrible singers. Hearing his voice live back then would put hair on your chest. Confirmed by science.

 

[strafer]

87-93 James is best James. He looked the best and had the most amazing voice for any band, let alone a metal band which are known for having terrible singers. Hearing his voice live back then would put hair on your chest. Confirmed by science.

True.

87-93 Metallica was an unstoppable force.

And the 'The Black Album' tour was crazy.

Wherever We May Roam Tour

Start date August 1, 1991

End date December 18, 1992

Shows 224

Biggest band on earth.

 

[-Eddman-]

Yeah, Hetfield and Lemmy should be the only musicians ever allowed to grow a handlebar mustache.

The Black Album tour was epic and everything, but I think all those months of non-stop activity were what "killed" James' voice. By late 1993 you could hear something was not right with his angry tone.

 

[Giant Robot]

True.

87-93 Metallica was an unstoppable force.

And the 'The Black Album' tour was crazy.

Wherever We May Roam Tour

Start date August 1, 1991

End date December 18, 1992

Shows 224

Biggest band on earth.

I applaud them for going on tour for that long for a single album.

Maiden for reference:
1980-1988
976 shows
7 albums

 

[Bulbo Urethral Baggins]

This man here is the reason I even picked up a guitar.

Before I start playing I go to a little shrine, say a little prayer and then finish off with the horns.

He has written some of the best riffs in music and he has a voice like no other.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jw67-SaUA5I

Look at dem handlebars

I had a skull ring like that. I won it in bingo

 

[strafer]

Listen to that fucking snare man.

"The snare from hell..."

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oxCVJyjBwNQ

 

[Combichristoffersen]

I had a skull ring like that. I won it in bingo

And bingo for all

Gaf's favorite Metallica albums?

1. Master of Puppets
2. Ride the Lightning
3. Load/ReLoad
4. Kill 'Em All
5. s/t album
6. Death Magnetic
7. And Justice for All
8. St. Anger

 

[Izick]

Gaf's favorite Metallica albums?

 

[Desmond]

Gaf's favorite Metallica albums?

1. RTL
2. KEA
3. AJFA
4. MOP
5. DM
6. ReLoad
7. TBA
8. St.Anger
9. Load

 

[Bulbo Urethral Baggins]

Gaf's favorite Metallica albums?

1. Kill em all
2. Master of Puppets
3. Ride the Lightning
4. And Justice for All

 

[Derrick01]

Gaf's favorite Metallica albums?

And Justice For All
Master of Puppets
Ride The Lightning
Kill Em All
Black album
Death Magnetic
Reload
Load
St. Anger

edit: lol I already made a list in this thread last year. Same ordering too, I haven't changed at all.

 

[Kaladin]

Gaf's favorite Metallica albums?

1. Master of Puppets
2. Ride The Lightning
3. Kill Em All
4. Black Album
5. Garage Inc.
6. Load
7. Beyond Magnetic
8. Death Magnetic
9. ...And Justice For All
10. Reload
11. St. Anger

 

[evilromero]

Gaf's favorite Metallica albums?

MOP
Reload
Load
RTL
S/T
AJFA (shit production)
KEA
S&M
DM
SA (piece of shit)

Also, I've been to four Met shows all in the 90s. I lived through the whole Load/Reload controversy. In my opinion those two albums show some of James' strongest songwriting. They haven't been nearly as brave since. Magnetic was proof of their lack of confidence in moving into a more mature direction (especially for their age).

 

[strafer]

1. Justice
2. MOP
3. RTL
4. Load
5. TBA
6. Death Magnetic
7. ReLoad

 

[Desmond]

1. Justice
2. MOP
3. RTL
4. Load
5. TBA
6. Death Magnetic
7. ReLoad

Kill 'em All?

 

[strafer]

Kill 'em All?

It's in there somewhere.

 

[Kaladin]

MOP
Reload
Load
RTL
S/T
AJFA (shit production)
KEA
S&M
DM
SA (piece of shit)

Also, I've been to four Met shows all in the 90s. I lived through the whole Load/Reload controversy. In my opinion those two albums show some of James' strongest songwriting. They haven't been nearly as brave since. Magnetic was proof of their lack of confidence in moving into a more mature direction (especially for their age).

Load is such an underrated masterpiece. However, since Metallica put it out, and it wasn't what people wanted after The Black Album, it was shit on.

 

[cacophony]

1. Master of Puppets
2. Ride The Lightning
3. Kill Em All
4. Black Album
5. Garage Inc.
6. Load
7. Beyond Magnetic
8. Death Magnetic
9. ...And Justice For All
10. Reload
11. St. Anger

 

[strafer]

People who lists St.Anger..what the fuck man?

Album is awful.

 

[Kaladin]

http://s2.postimage.org/iogjxo4o9/jags.gif

It has some good songs, but the mixing on it is almost as bad as St. Anger. The bass is so low in the mix you have to really listen to hear it in parts....it's like it was made for old car stereos.

 

[Desmond]

People who lists St.Anger..what the fuck man?

Album is awful.

Some of those riffs were sick.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d9f_MpkOQHY

 

[impact]

Gaf's favorite Metallica albums?

Kill em All


flawless victory

 

[MasterShotgun]

Gaf's favorite Metallica albums?

1. Master of Puppets
2. Ride the Lightning
3. Kill 'Em All
4. ...And Justice for All
5. Black Album
6. Death Magnetic
7. ReLoad
8. Load
9. St. Anger

 

[HammerOfThor]

Damn, that vocals only Blackened is awesome!

Yeah, Hetfield and Lemmy should be the only musicians ever allowed to grow a handlebar mustache.

The Black Album tour was epic and everything, but I think all those months of non-stop activity were what "killed" James' voice. By late 1993 you could hear something was not right with his angry tone.

Yeah, he blew out his voice doing the So What cover, and had to get vocal training. You can tell he's kept it easy since then. Personally I think its part of the reason they went with different tuning after Black, so it would match his voice a little more.

 

[strafer]

Damn, that vocals only Blackened is awesome!



Yeah, he blew out his voice doing the So What cover, and had to get vocal training. You can tell he's kept it easy since then. Personally I think its part of the reason they went with different tuning after Black, so it would match his voice a little more.

Then you might like this.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1vY-09W82co

Beastly.

 

[Derrick01]

People who lists St.Anger..what the fuck man?

Album is awful.

It's a metallica album whether I want it to exist or not. Have to list it even if it's obviously the least liked.

 

[Combichristoffersen]

Load is such an underrated masterpiece. However, since Metallica put it out, and it wasn't what people wanted after The Black Album, it was shit on.

I still think the Load albums are probably the only really 'genuine' albums they've put out after the s/t album. Both St. Anger and Death Magnetic, even if the latter was a decent album, felt like they were trying too hard to regain their 'metal credibility' and please their fanbase rather than just make the albums they wanted to make themselves.

 

[evilromero]

I still think the Load albums are probably the only really 'genuine' albums they've put out after the s/t album. Both St. Anger and Death Magnetic, even if the latter was a decent album, felt like they were trying too hard to regain their 'metal credibility' and please their fanbase rather than just make the albums they wanted to make themselves.

I agree. You can't tell me songs like Bleeding Me, Outlaw Torn and Fixxxer aren't some of the best to come out of them since MOP. I really thought they would gradually mature their songwriting (such as with Load/Reload). Sad to see they spent the next ten years on fluff and then returned with a lame throwback sound that just wasn't sincere at all.

 

[vaelic]

It's a metallica album whether I want it to exist or not. Have to list it even if it's obviously the least liked.

you should never acknowledge it as an album

 

[moojito]

I first heard/saw metallica play on a video of the freddie mercury tribute concert. I recorded them onto a cassette tape (please don't ban me for the piracy, I was young!) and took the tape into school and asked one of the resident mosher types what a particular song was. I thought he was saying "it's enter sand, man". I was like "cool, man" and for ages thought the song was just called "enter sand".

True story!

 

[vaelic]

part of the problem with new metallica albums is the quality of the vocals.

 

[strafer]

I wish people would stop saying the vocals are bad now, they aren't.

If anything they were really bad in 1993.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZjXARJh__PY

and then compare to say this..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V0Ewbo7QH6w

Improvement x 2.

 

[Lionheart1827]

I had a skull ring like that. I won it in bingo

I'm pretty sure that skull ring is Cliff's. He kept it after he died I believe.

 

[Combichristoffersen]

I agree. You can't tell me songs like Bleeding Me, Outlaw Torn and Fixxxer aren't some of the best to come out of them since MOP. I really thought they would gradually mature their songwriting (such as with Load/Reload). Sad to see they spent the next ten years on fluff and then returned with a lame throwback sound that just wasn't sincere at all.

Don't forget Ronnie. That song tends to get overlooked, for some reason. Until it Sleeps is pretty good too, as long as you know the background to the lyrics and what they deal with. Hell, even Mama Said was awesome, if only because you had these former thrash metallers performing a sappy country rock ballad about James dealing with his troubled relationship to his mum. Both albums had some really great material on them, yet they get constantly shat on because OMG NOT METAL. I would be interested in seeing James do a country-influenced album some day.

 

[evilromero]

I wish people would stop saying the vocals are bad now, they aren't.

If anything they were really bad in 1993.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZjXARJh__PY

and then compare to say this..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V0Ewbo7QH6w

Improvement x 2.

I agree. The way he sings this is perfectly fine. The problem is he's just writing inspired material anymore.

 

[Derrick01]

http://www.vh1.com/video/metal-evolution/full-episodes/thrash/1676889/playlist.jhtml

This is the Thrash episode of Metal Evolution on vh1 classic. For a huge fan of the genre as a whole I really enjoyed it and thought they did a good job. I posted it here because even though it's 45 minutes or so and it covers the entire genre, a good ~15 minutes (total, not at once) are dedicated to Metallica since they essentially created AND helped kill the genre.

What really caught my attention was when they started talking about the decline of the genre in the early 90s and The Black Album. I know thrash fans hate the album and considered it "selling out", but I didn't know the actual bands were split on it. You can see in the video it's pretty obvious how much Slayer hated it but Testament loved it. They interview a lot of thrash legends (like Mustaine, Lars, Kerry King etc) but what was curious is that pretty much all of them except the Slayer guys admitted that Thrash became stale in the early 90s. They kept advancing with every album until finally they hit a wall and they noticed they couldn't do much more without copying themselves. Lars admitted that's why they wanted to change.

I don't know I watched the whole thing and was fascinated until the last 5 minutes when they quickly focused on the new age "thrash" bands that I have no interest in at all.

 

[Combichristoffersen]

http://www.vh1.com/video/metal-evolution/full-episodes/thrash/1676889/playlist.jhtml

This is the Thrash episode of Metal Evolution on vh1 classic. For a huge fan of the genre as a whole I really enjoyed it and thought they did a good job. I posted it here because even though it's 45 minutes or so and it covers the entire genre, a good ~15 minutes (total, not at once) are dedicated to Metallica since they essentially created AND helped kill the genre.

What really caught my attention was when they started talking about the decline of the genre in the early 90s and The Black Album. I know thrash fans hate the album and considered it "selling out", but I didn't know the actual bands were split on it. You can see in the video it's pretty obvious how much Slayer hated it but Testament loved it. They interview a lot of thrash legends (like Mustaine, Lars, Kerry King etc) but what was curious is that pretty much all of them except the Slayer guys admitted that Thrash became stale in the early 90s. They kept advancing with every album until finally they hit a wall and they noticed they couldn't do much more without copying themselves. Lars admitted that's why they wanted to change.

I don't know I watched the whole thing and was fascinated until the last 5 minutes when they quickly focused on the new age "thrash" bands that I have no interest in at all.

That's because Slayer has been goddamn stale for nearly three decades anyway.

 

[Zero Hero]

God Hates Us All says NO.

 

[Takamura-San]

I liked them a lot when I was in High School.

Wasn't into all of their material but liked most of their stuff.

Then they pushed Jason out. From then on I don't hear anything metallica.

Wasn't just me or was it pretty obvious he was treated like an outcast from the get go?

 

[Derrick01]

That's because Slayer has been goddamn stale for nearly three decades anyway.

They were pretty solid in the mid 80s or so and really important to the growing genre. Reign in Blood was pretty good, though I had to chuckle when the narrator in that video referenced it as "many people consider it the best metal album ever". Maybe so, but I've never seen anyone in the industry say that. It's always Master of Puppets followed by either a Black Sabbath album or Megadeth's Rust In Peace. But almost always MoP is listed as #1.

Wasn't just me or was it pretty obvious he was treated like an outcast from the get go?

They hazed the ever loving shit out of him until the mid to late 90s. In fact I don't think they fully appreciated him until he told them he was quitting, and it devastated them (which also led to James going to rehab and them making that documentary).

 

[TRHolmes(y)]

It's my world you can't have it
(It's my world, it's my world)
It's my world you can't have it
(It's my world, it's my world)
It's my world you can't have it
(It's my world, it's my world)

It's my world suck it.

 

[strafer]

I actually prefer the studio version then the actual album and Rob is on the bass instead of Bob Rock that was on the album.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U5UZKc6Gx2w

 

[Combichristoffersen]

They were pretty solid in the mid 80s or so and really important to the growing genre. Reign in Blood was pretty good, though I had to chuckle when the narrator in that video referenced it as "many people consider it the best metal album ever". Maybe so, but I've never seen anyone in the industry say that. It's always Master of Puppets followed by either a Black Sabbath album or Megadeth's Rust In Peace. But almost always MoP is listed as #1.

They were massively important to the creation of thrash metal, speed metal and death metal, but I've always found them to be a mostly godawful band. Terrible solos, boring riffs, mediocre vocals and a dumb image, although their drummers have always been fucking amazing. Seasons in the Abyss was admittedly a decent album though.

 

[Derrick01]

They were massively important to the creation of thrash metal, speed metal and death metal, but I've always found them to be a mostly godawful band. Terrible solos, boring riffs, mediocre vocals and a dumb image, although their drummers have always been fucking amazing. Seasons in the Abyss was admittedly a decent album though.

Yeah I'm not much of a Slayer fan either. What's funny about their image is that they started off wearing some makeup and they kind of looked like an evil Glam band in some pictures. They were pretty much forced to take it off in order to play in the metal clubs with other bands and their fans haha.

 

[JeTmAn81]

Listen to that fucking snare man.

"The snare from hell..."

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oxCVJyjBwNQ

I'm pretty sure the "snare from hell" title should reserved exclusively for whatever thing they used on St. Anger. Anyway, my list:

1. Black Album
2. Master of Puppets
3. ...And Justice For All
4. Ride The Lightning
5. S&M
6. Load
7. Reload
8. Kill Em All
9. Garage, Inc.
10. Death Magnetic
11. St. Anger*

*Receives the distinction of being the worst album I have ever heard, but it's still a Metallica album so it's on the list.


Also, I did not even know Beyond Magnetic was a thing. Listening now.

 

[Draconian]

Gaf's favorite Metallica albums?

Ride the Lightning
Master of Puppets
...And Justice for All
Black Album
Death Magnetic
Kill 'Em All

Although I have Ride first, I think Master is a better album. That being said, I listen to Ride way more often and think it's more fun and thematically interesting. Plus James's vocals are the best he's ever done imo.

Still need to listen to Beyond Magnetic though.

 

[Kaladin]

I actually prefer the studio version then the actual album and Rob is on the bass instead of Bob Rock that was on the album.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U5UZKc6Gx2w

Yep, you can actually listen to that version of the album. It's also missing Lars's trash can snare drum. I have that version of the album on my computer instead of the official version.

 

[Accoun]

People who lists St.Anger..what the fuck man?

Album is awful.

I like it. Very much (even though it's their worst).
My list:
-Ride...
-...Justice (even if I hardly listen to it because of the production)
-Master...
-Kill...
-Load/ReLoad (I prefer to treat them as one)
-...Magnetic
-S/T (problem?)
-St. Anger

Live and cover albums don't really count IMO, neither does Lulu since it's "only" Lou's album. Still haven't heard Beyond Magnetic.

 

[strafer]

Hell yeah.

As you may have heard, the theme of our summer trek through Europe is celebrating the 20th anniversary of the release of the Black Album by playing it in its entirety at all 16 shows. And what would a tour of the Black Album be without a snake pit????

For those of you who were with us almost 20 years ago for the summer of ’92-’93 tours, you might recall that diamond shaped pit extending from the middle of the stage, well it’s baccccckkkk for our little summer vacation!

Met Club members with floor/front section tickets (it varies by venue) are eligible to win passes to watch from the snake pit at all shows on the European tour this summer with the exception of Rock Am Ring on June 2, where local production constraints prevent us from setting the snake pit up. Log in and get all the details on how to enter here.

We’re gearing up and getting ready now . . . see you on the road next month!