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Where does that french stereotype even come from? IIRC did napoleon kick half of Europe's ass

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Yeah, but Napolean was also an idiot that was fighting against a bunch of people in surprise attacks.
It mostly comes from the fact that France rarely actually wins a war, of if they do, its through some technicality.
Example: In 1870 France declares war on Prussia. Prussia whoops them so badly, their army is forced back to Paris and they run out of food (and have to eat the animals in the zoo to survive).

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Yeah, but Napolean was also an idiot that was fighting against a bunch of people in surprise attacks.
It mostly comes from the fact that France rarely actually wins a war, of if they do, its through some technicality.
Example: In 1870 France declares war on Prussia. Prussia whoops them so badly, their army is forced back to Paris and they run out of food (and have to eat the animals in the zoo to survive).

Since 387 BC, France has fought 168 major wars against such badasses as the Roman Empire, the British Army and the Turkish forces. Their track record isn't too shabby, either: They've won 109, lost 49 and drawn (or as close as you can "draw" a war) 10 times.

source:http://www.cracked.com/article_18409_the-5-most-statistically-full-shit-national-stereotypes.html
 
Yeah, but Napolean was also an idiot that was fighting against a bunch of people in surprise attacks.
It mostly comes from the fact that France rarely actually wins a war, of if they do, its through some technicality.
Example: In 1870 France declares war on Prussia. Prussia whoops them so badly, their army is forced back to Paris and they run out of food (and have to eat the animals in the zoo to survive).

well, last time the US won a war was the fifties (even though it wasn't really usa vs best korea) and since then they've been not-winning every single one but it's not like anyone's rubbing their nose in...
 
well, last time the US won a war was the fifties (even though it wasn't really usa vs best korea) and since then they've been not-winning every single one but it's not like anyone's rubbing their nose in...
These French bashing "jokes" are usually made by Americans. It is like when a kid bullies someone at school because of trouble at home.
 
Well they did surrender in WW2
Which I guess isn't that much of a shame since it took the most powerful countries in the world to actually take Germany down.

Yeah, but Napolean was also an idiot that was fighting against a bunch of people in surprise attacks.
It mostly comes from the fact that France rarely actually wins a war, of if they do, its through some technicality.
Example: In 1870 France declares war on Prussia. Prussia whoops them so badly, their army is forced back to Paris and they run out of food (and have to eat the animals in the zoo to survive).
but you'd think that would mostly cause German/French rivalry(or with the other countries surrounding France for that matter), but like mentioned by someone before, it appears to be mostly the americans who use that stereotype.
 
Which I guess isn't that much of a shame since it took the most powerful countries in the world to actually take Germany down.


but you'd think that would only cause German/French rivalry, but like mentioned by someone before, it appears to be mostly the americans who use that stereotype.

Because America.
Fuck yeah.
 
The Nazis beat the French, but then again they also kicked Britain right the hell off the main continent too afterwards. Then London was getting bombed. Everybody likes those Keep Calm and Carry On signs, that was a sign designed by the British government to be posted everywhere for when Britain surrendered. That's how close it was, an official sign. The Nazi war machine was a blitzing steamroller, France borders Germany, France was the most important strategic target. France got the full effect and got it first. And there was still a French Resistance after the government capitulated.
 
The Nazis beat the French, but then again they also kicked Britain right the hell off the main continent too afterwards. Then London was getting bombed. Everybody likes those Keep Calm and Carry On signs, that was a sign designed by the British government to be posted everywhere for when Britain surrendered. That's how close it was, an official sign. The Nazi war machine was a blitzing steamroller, France borders Germany, France was the most important strategic target. France got the full effect and got it first. And there was still a French Resistance after the government capitulated.


So the French are just like the Batarians?
 
Yeah, but Napolean was also an idiot that was fighting against a bunch of people in surprise attacks.
It mostly comes from the fact that France rarely actually wins a war, of if they do, its through some technicality.

That's what soldiers call "strategy".
Anyway the only lesson to get from European history, is that you don't win wars. You just take the edge until the next war. All European countries have been fighting each other for centuries, sometimes they win, sometimes they don't, but in the end it doesn't matter.
The only way to "win" wars is to stop doing it and be at peace with your former enemies. Like we did since 1950.

Ok, time for a random funny picture :
 
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