Wii U Speculation thread IV: Photoshop rumors and image memes
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Agent Unknown
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For sure. "Water meet fish!" and all that.
shadyspace
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Why? "Because Cliff likes those games" is shit business.
Christberg
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Oh, I agree we won't see high end PC specs in this. It just isn't really an option. The heat and power draw requirements put it out of contention entirely before you even consider cost.
I'd like to think they want to be close enough to MS and Sony's next systems that downports will be fairly simple, and far enough ahead of the current HD twins that the difference is noticeable. Likely wishful thinking though, getting a half generation leap at a 300 dollar price point with that controller is asking a lot. 350 maybe.
Getting funding from Nintendo wouldn't be, though.
SaintMadeOfPlaster
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The idea of a Nitendo-Epic collaboration makes me want to throw up.
Epic represents the things I hate about modern gaming. I know that's harsh, but I feel like they just take it far too seriously (Not that games shouldn't be serious, but they don't have to force MATURE MATURE MATURE down your throat). Games with the attitude of Gears and that Samaritan video completely turn me off. They are everything I hate about the "hardcore gamer" mentality. Also, they've proved that no matter how serious you take iOS gaming, it will suck compared to dedicated gaming handhelds. Infinity Blade was awful.
I don't expect anyone to agree with me, but that's just how it is.
Epic represents the things I hate about modern gaming. I know that's harsh, but I feel like they just take it far too seriously (Not that games shouldn't be serious, but they don't have to force MATURE MATURE MATURE down your throat). Games with the attitude of Gears and that Samaritan video completely turn me off. They are everything I hate about the "hardcore gamer" mentality. Also, they've proved that no matter how serious you take iOS gaming, it will suck compared to dedicated gaming handhelds. Infinity Blade was awful.
I don't expect anyone to agree with me, but that's just how it is.
evilromero
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There are plenty of new IPs on other systems. Give me my Metroid.
ShineALight
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I really don't believe the Epic Metroid rumour, but not because I think it's an impossibility. Epic gambled on a manufacturer exclusive with Gears and it paid off hugely. I wouldn't be surprised if they tried it again with a potential market leader with an already beloved franchise, especially since Nintendo would likely foot a good part of the bill and offer substantial support. And Nintendo seems hungry for that kind of partnership.
But I still think it's a bullshit rumor. I do think that if Nintendo does what I think they'll do, partnerships of that sort will be more likely than you'd think (based of the last decade or so).
But I still think it's a bullshit rumor. I do think that if Nintendo does what I think they'll do, partnerships of that sort will be more likely than you'd think (based of the last decade or so).
shadyspace
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Why would they care about getting Nintendo funding? They're Epic, you don't make a game in the West without kicking them some money.
Because that way they wouldn't need to be concerned about paying for the game's development or marketing, so they could get to make what is to some of their employees a dream game without paying for it, I think that would offer huge incentive to them, but still I find the whole thing unlikely anyway.
Precisely. I'm absolutely convinced that western third parties are long, long gone. Nintendo has sinned, and is apparently not forgiveable (contrast this with the other two and their sins, hmm..). And they don't compete in the "who-can-be-most-unsustainable" e-peen measuring contest, which means that their hardware can't render bokoblin asswart hairs live. Thus, the hardware isn't worthy of those precious AAAA games.
So while most of the west's third parties are trying their best to commit slow-motion financial suicide (gotta sell a few million to break even? Ha!), I'd much rather see Nintendo, its second parties, and its close third-party allies inhabit a safehouse. A bunker. A sustainable ecosystem. With proper resource allocation to boost game production, the opening (or purchase, as you propose) of more studios, a better timeline for spacing-out the release of its games, good cooperative efforts on special project games, etc.. Nintendo and its allies can do just fine, regardless of what the other companies do. The outside world may be imploding, but Nintendo would be just fine and profitable in its own little corner.
SlickShoesRUCrazy
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fixed for ya.
people that call them self "hardcore" gamers because they play M rated games like gears of war, are causal gamers, not hardcore gamers.
A dedicated gamer, a real gamer, can enjoy something like gears of war one day and enjoy zelda or mario the next, and whatever else floats their boat the day after that.
Does anyone think that Nintendo's "Show What the Controller Can Do" pack-in games like battle mii/chase mii should actually be graphically impressive as well? Those have the potential to be what everyone thinks of when they think Wii U, and they'll also be the games that everyone who buys the system will play. It might be important for Nintendo to establish to the less aware that "hey, this looks better than my wii." Certainly they shouldn't make graphics the highlight, but I don't think they're doing themselves any favors from what we seen of those demos, NSMBM included.
What if they're not into Mario or Zelda games? Can't hardcore gamers have a preference? What if I'm a gamer who puts dozens of hours a week into Gears, CoD, Assassin's Creed and those types of games? What kind of gamer am I?
I use the terms "hardcore" and "casual," but don't care for them. One can be an absolutely hardcore Tetris player, or a casual Call of Duty player, or a really hardcore Animal Crossing gamer. The terms are too easily used in a careless manner.
TheGreatMightyPoo
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SlickShoesRUCrazy
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whatever floats your boat as along as you can respect somebody that does enjoy those games and not consider them kiddy games because they don't have an M on them.
As much as I hate these terms, I tend to use them myself. I call someone a casual gamer if they don't put much time and focus into gaming and play every once in a while. I don't call them a casual gamer for the types of games they choose to play.
The people who don't are usually more childish than anything else. I've met a ton of them over XBL.
Mr. MondayNight
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I put hours
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ColdBlooder
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I say purchase because that way, the developer stays with Nintendo no matter what. To prevent a "Look we bought THQ" "Megaton" from M$ or Sony. The Dev+IPs would stay at Nintendo no matter what happenes. We all know what would happen if Microsoft would offer a sh*tton of money...
SlickShoesRUCrazy
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that's why I don't like using the term "hardcore."
I prefer to use dedicated.
When I here the term "hardcore" it just has negative tones to it for me....honestly what comes to mind are frat kids(even though I was in a frat in undergrad lmao) and people like that haha.
I think that, for the sake of appealing to as many as possible, Nintendo should go the impressive route with at least one element of their packed-in games. It'd make an immediate and hopefully positive lasting impression.
Mr. MondayNight
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So Dragon Quest X got a Japanese release date what does that say of the North American version?
August 2 for those that want to know.
Personally I want it here by this time next year at the latest....
August 2 for those that want to know.
Personally I want it here by this time next year at the latest....
It's understandable. These words kinda got out of hand this generation. I try not to use them that much either but it's hard to avoid them. xD
As far as I know there isn't a NA Wii version of the game. We might see Wii U version late this year or early next year hopefully.
Yup. It's prevent defense.. at the very least, Nintendo would hold the IPs just to play keepaway from the other two.
That said, if both Nintendo and MS want the same company, we know who'll win the bidding war. Just like they bought their way into the industry..
Just wait.. some are predicting that "too eastern" will be the new popular insult for this upcomibg generation.
TheGreatMightyPoo
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No one?
SaintMadeOfPlaster
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Well, there's a reason I put "hardcore gamer" in quotes.
I like this mentality. I mean you're setting yourself up for a big surprise?
Nintendo gives two fucks (Mario, Pikmin 3 launch?) if they don't want a repeat of the 3DS.
Mr. MondayNight
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That's what I meant honestly I was talking about the Wii U version I'll be more specific next time.
No idea.. I'll be here all day/week/month/quarter, so when they get here, they get here.
Nsmb artstyle even in 1080p...yeah, nuff saidI like this mentality. I mean you're setting yourself up for a big surprise?
Nintendo gives two fucks (Mario, Pikmin 3 launch?) if they don't want a repeat of the 3DS.
Hah I agree. I really don't like NSMB artstyle. I'm not gonna buy a Wii U at launch if they just have Pikmin 3 and NSMB.
Smiles and Cries
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Hmmm, what does DQX requiring 16GB USB Memory Card tell us about WiiU?
That it was really short sighted of Nintendo to not have more in built memory for the Wii.
Also that the Wii U is going to have at least 16GB of memory to begin with. I'd assume about 20 GB, of which ~19 GB will be available to the user to begin with (and of which 16 will be taken up by DQX :/)
TheExplodingHead
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I think you've got a point, but all I'm realistically expecting is a BIG quality bump for Mii's (maybe better than Avatars but still Nintendo-ish), and games relatively more detailed than Wii Sports at 1080p if feasible.
Wat...,Pikmin 3 alone should be worth it, but yeah let's see it first at E3
Never played the first two and don't really have an interest in it.
Don't shoot me
E3 it's so close yet so far.
Smiles and Cries
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I fail to see them have this much on WiiU when they had HDD they can sell separately
but if wiiu has the kinds of app store we all expect it to have maybe 20GB is lowballing
Mr. MondayNight
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Fingers firmly crossed
Maybe the Wii U disk is big enough to hold all that extra data so they have no need for a 16 gig USB drive
I don't think a Nintendo-Epic collaboration on Metroid would result in anything good. I'm sure the developers would be just fine, but Nintendo and Epic just wouldn't see eye to eye on a lot of things concerning DLC and online multiplayer and all that.
You can say what you want about the Team Ninja collaboration, at least that resulted in a pretty neat and workable action game style for the future, even if there were a lot of cutscenes. It was a move towards something that resembled a sequel to Super Metroid, even if all the critics suddenly found their feminism glands in its critique.
Now a Nintendo-Epic Collaboration on something else, like say... Mach Rider, or something new altogether. That would be fine, with the only caveat to go easy on the DLC.
You can say what you want about the Team Ninja collaboration, at least that resulted in a pretty neat and workable action game style for the future, even if there were a lot of cutscenes. It was a move towards something that resembled a sequel to Super Metroid, even if all the critics suddenly found their feminism glands in its critique.
Now a Nintendo-Epic Collaboration on something else, like say... Mach Rider, or something new altogether. That would be fine, with the only caveat to go easy on the DLC.
I find it funny because Team Ninja wasn't the problem in this case.
I don't mind a Nintendo-Epic collaboration, but they shouldn't touch Metroid. Leave that to Retro.
Mr. MondayNight
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As long as it's not REALLY expensive OR they have 2 SKUs ala the OG 360 I think they can pull it off.
500 Gigs Nintendo Branded for $50 I can hang with that.
SaintMadeOfPlaster
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I find it funny because Team Ninja wasn't the problem in this case.
I don't mind a Nintendo-Epic collaboration, but they shouldn't touch Metroid. Leave that to Retro.
All the good things about the game were a result of Team Ninja. It pains me to say it, but Nintendo was the source of most of the shit in the game.
It was Sakamoto that demanded it only use the Remote with no Nunchuk. It was Sakamoto who made the awful story, and whose idea it was to make Samus weak-willed.
The gameplay, which is what Team Ninja did, was excellent, considering the restraints that were forced upon them.
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