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That will turn when he starts season 5. >.<
No it won't.
Captain_Spanky
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Introduced my girlfriend to this before Christmas and we're now half-way through season 6. She's loved the whole thing so far, and I'm loving how well it all holds together. Such a brilliant and wonderfully written show. They really are some of my favorite characters ever.
BlackGhost
Banned
Now that I finished lost on Netflix I don't know what to do haha, might watch over again soon. This might be my favorite show if not one of them
Ventilaator
Banned
Hey, Erigu.
Lost was good.
*runs away giggling*
Lost was good.
*runs away giggling*
Drealmcc0y
Banned
So what has your friends thoughts about season 5 been?
Ape Gone Insane
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I really like Sawyer's nicknames for the characters. It's small things like that that really add to the character.
Aaaand that about sums up the argument in favor of the show, indeed!
So deep.
Ventilaator
Banned
Nah man, seriously though I really really like your posts here. No sarcasm. Whenever someone goes off on the deep deepness of the show I know that they are completely wrong but I couldn't be arsed to tell them that, so I love coming into this thread and knowing that you'll take care of all of those people.
Lost was good. At first as a fun show with a cool central mystery and later as a thing you enjoy ironically because you want to see how far up it's own ass a tv show can get. That is it. People trying to decode it, think about the show too much or pretend it wasn't all made up as they went along are doing it wrong. Also kidding themselves. They also need to watch a better show that's worth thinking about as hard.
Pretty much, yeah...
I mean, the premise was right up my alley, really. I certainly wouldn't mind seeing Lost "done right".
I certainly can't blame anybody for overthinking fiction (really fun exercise, in my opinion), but to actually believe the writers were spinning this wonderfully complex and deep tale that's going to be soooo rewarding eventually, when it should have been quite obvious it was nothing but a poorly improvised shaggy dog story...
And like you said...
Exactly, there would be far more deserving shows out there.
I find it disheartening when I see some post stuff like "well, I guess that's it, then: Lost ruined the whole of fiction for me! nothing will ever compare!"
... Really, now?
I'm sure (or want to believe, at least) that in most cases, they'll actually get over it rather quickly and find new Best Things Ever on a relatively regular basis, but still...
Finally finished this on Netflix. I enjoyed it for the most part...I actually got hype for the ending because my ex wife said it was just as good as Six Feet Under's finale. She said she was in tears the entire time.
I watched it and not a single fuck was made - How she compared this to SFU - no idea...or even cried...
Forever Sayyid
Left a lot of questions unanswered - I don't know...seems like they could have ended this back on Season 4 -
I could NOT imagine having to suffer through episode breaks, season breaks...hell even the commercials breaks would have drove me nuts
BUT - I have to imagine the GAF threads had to be legendary for this show....
Wish they explained more about the island itself...
I suppose the idea of a LOST movie was shot down back in 2010 when nothing came of it?
I watched it and not a single fuck was made - How she compared this to SFU - no idea...or even cried...
Forever Sayyid
Left a lot of questions unanswered - I don't know...seems like they could have ended this back on Season 4 -
I could NOT imagine having to suffer through episode breaks, season breaks...hell even the commercials breaks would have drove me nuts
BUT - I have to imagine the GAF threads had to be legendary for this show....
Wish they explained more about the island itself...
I suppose the idea of a LOST movie was shot down back in 2010 when nothing came of it?
faceless007
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Ironically, Erigu should take this advice more than anyone else.
Where did you get the idea I was still watching the show? I've seen it just the once.
I'm always thrown off
when one of your
responses doesn't
look like this.
Though I haven't looked at the content of your posts since 2010 (holy shit we've all been here a while)
evil solrac v3.0
Member
just ignore him people, the thread flows so much better when you block him.
ThLunarian
Member
Wow, it's been over a year since I've seen an episode of Lost. The time I watched it, my girlfriend at the time was watching the finale for the first time.
One day I'm going to rewatch it. I just need to make sure and wait long enough so that I get pleasantly surprised a lot. Also, someone worth sharing it with would be important.
One day I'm going to rewatch it. I just need to make sure and wait long enough so that I get pleasantly surprised a lot. Also, someone worth sharing it with would be important.
A second troll enters. Please illuminate us, what are your holy grail tv shows? I'd prefer shows that actually had a good run. Matching LOST's 121 episodes is asking a lot, but lets say, at least 60. Or, one that is currently running.
I'm a big fan of tv shows and I've love to invest in something as epic and engaging as LOST. None of the other J.J. Abrams shows have held my attention for long (Fringe, Alcatraz). Breaking Bad, Mad Men, The Wire are all great shows (and I LOVE Justified), but they're all grounded in reality - they don't have/attempt the same scope, or are wrapped in anything approaching the same amount of mystery. I know you won't mention Battlestar Galactica because it suffers the same issues as LOST... but I loved that show as well.
I'm genuinely curious. What have I missed?
Poindexter
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Ignore the trolls. Arguing with people about Lost is really pointless in most cases. It's really a show where you choose to suspend disbelief and in some cases just accept issues with the show. I can be very critical of the show but I still love it. It's my favorite show of all time and I can tear certain seasons/issues apart on a critical level but I love how ambitious it is and how it knew what it did well and focused on that. If someone isn't willing to accept that you just don't care about certain issues then drop it and just stop arguing with them.
Shows better than Lost -> holy grail TV shows
Well, thanks for being more reasonable than us "trolls". ;þ
Or maybe the "second troll" part was actually referring to big ander and evil solrac 3.0's posts above. It would work.
Nailed it.
I will rewatch again sometime in the next year or two. I have all of the Blu Rays and the Blu Ray set just starin' at me.
I named my son Sawyer James for fucks sakes. He'll need to watch it.
What did it do well?
Piss you off. It continues to do it well, too.
Ventilaator
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I totally would engage here, but the "second troll" part is enough to just make sigh and move on. Call me back when you understand that people sometimes say negative things about stuff you like because they didn't like it so much, not because they get off on it.
So that's what it focused on?
Damn.
dave is ok
aztek is ok
Forcing him to watch it will only set him on an obsessive path to get revenge on you.
SpeedingUptoStop
will totally Facebook friend you! *giggle* *LOL*
Giving the kid Daddy Issues would still be in the spirit of the show!
I'll be waiting.
Seriously. oatmeal if you don't drink heavily in front of him and come close to beating him at least once, you'll be doing his namesake a disservice.
You asked what it did well.
You should buy a jigsaw puzzle with 1000 pieces and give your son one random piece each day.
After a year, you start with a second jigsaw puzzle - same size, same routine. One year later, a third puzzle comes in. After a while, you start a few new jigsaw puzzles and then you rotate the pieces you give him between the old and new ones.
On his 18th birthday, he will have 30 jigsaw puzzles with 50-500 out of 1000 pieces each.
When he asks you what the meaning of this is and tells you he wants to see a big picture, just answer him: it was all about the journey and love is the most important thing.
Then hug him, cut contact with him and only communicate to him via snarky twitter posts about geek culture.
I'm ready (better than work). PM me if you want. Don't worry about me. I can tolerate even Erigu's persistent negativity. I'd like to know what shows I could pair up with LOST and compare side by side. I'm genuinely interested in deconstruction of successful tv shows as I'm currently engaged in creating episodic content (for entertainment).. and right now, LOST is my gold standard.
For instance, LOST immediately presented the audience, and its future writers, with three sources for conflict: (1) nature - pure survival on an undeveloped, isolated tropical island, (2) man - the others, (3) the supernatural - the monster, Jacob & the man in black, the island's power. This created a deep and rich well from which to pull various scenarios that could be built upon, brick by brick, which included a multitude of ways that each of these avenues could intersect.
Nothing novel in concept, of course, but its something that the show embraced emphatically, and this guides/informs some of my own decision making in story crafting.
dave is ok
aztek is ok
Here's your problem, this:
isn't a bad thing for most people. In fact, as LOST went on - suspension of disbelief got harder and harder for a good deal of viewers as character motivation (for the characters whose motivation was even revealed to the viewer) got murkier and harder to understand.
Do you realize the "first troll", Eirgu, the guy you say has no sarcasm(he most definitely does), has been at it for 2 years (full criticism mode), has the most post count in every Lost thread since the finale just to criticize it, and is featured on every single page of this thread(which was created in 2010)?
But go ahead, indulge him. You'll be in the crossfire now even tho you have 4 posts.
Now if you separated yourself from that pathetic poster, intelligent criticisms would be welcomed. But you don't seem to intelligent based on your post detailing how much you admire him.
Ventilaator
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I have to go a few steps backwards to explain what my problem with Lost is. Basically, every time I see someone analyze some piece of ugly modern art I just sigh. Some talentless hack has "painted" some random colours on top of each other randomly and sure enough, some dude is there saying how the deepness of the imagery is bringing tears to his eyes and the use of blue clearly means that the artist hadn't brushed his teeth that morning. The picture itself looks like something that a 5 year old could easily produce. I don't like the shell of intellectuality that other people put around that stuff to hide the fairly simple centre.
Lost is that piece of modern art to me. It doesn't mean anything and was made up as the authors went along. That doesn't mean that it's absolute shit and not worth watching at all, but what it does mean is that I am going to facepalm if I see someone start decoding it and pretend like it was some hyper intellectual and well thought out storyline. Doing that is just putting in more work into the show than the creators did themselves, and that just doesn't make any sense to me.
The show was a fun thing to follow week to week and it was cool to see a mystery run into another mystery. It was well produced and did what it tried to do fairly well. The thing it did well was getting viewers to come back next week. That is the part of Lost that's worth thinking and writing about - how it got a dedicated following by not telling you what you want to know, but dangling that information in front of you close enough to make people excitedly return every week and not get frustrated.
That's the part the show did well. If you are out there writing paragraphs upon paragraphs of that, I would read it. If you are out there analyzing the story itself, I'm just shaking my head. After the show was over you were supposed to realize how brilliant the show was in telling you an absolutely shitty story, and you didn't even notice because you were too invested in the mystery. If you are out thinking the storyline of Lost is the cool thing that's worth analyzing, you still have some waking up to do. That part is over. Now we look back and laugh.
Lol at you thinking your posts are intelligent.
cool. I'll get back to this. I really do have to get some work done right now though.
I was wondering what Poindexter had in mind.
Thank god you're here to raise the level of discourse.
He's five months old and I beat him constantly. All part of the plan.
LabouredSubterfuge
Member
...but at least the characters were good.
Sorry, still makes me laugh.
Apropos, anyone here finished ME3?
Sorry, still makes me laugh.
Apropos, anyone here finished ME3?
Carnivale did everything LOST did but better.
MMaRsu
Member
Heh ^^
HP_Wuvcraft
Banned
Hey, GAF!
Just finished my rewatch. Holy crap, it was great going through it again. The finale was fucking amazing. My girlfriend was beside herself in tears for more or less the entire duration. Beautiful stuff.
And I'm totally happy with the answers we've been given. Gong into the second viewing, the only thing that bothered me was Eko's absence in the finale. I was hoping that I would be able to squeeze a reason out of his episodes, knowing what I do now, and I think I just about managed it.
So yeah. Magic and stuff. I can dig it. But truthfully, play me that sweet, sweet soundtrack and I will dig whatever shit you throw at me.
And I'm totally happy with the answers we've been given. Gong into the second viewing, the only thing that bothered me was Eko's absence in the finale. I was hoping that I would be able to squeeze a reason out of his episodes, knowing what I do now, and I think I just about managed it.
So yeah. Magic and stuff. I can dig it. But truthfully, play me that sweet, sweet soundtrack and I will dig whatever shit you throw at me.
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