Did you catch it at sawgrass?
Marvel's The Avengers |OT| (Dir. Joss Whedon) [Spoilers unmarked]
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Did you catch it at sawgrass?
Yep, midnight showing Thursday night, 9:00PM tonight (Sunday)
Well, in the comics, the Hulk is a more psychological effect, I think maybe Whedon was just ignoring (for good) the bit about blood pressure in favor of this.
Theory time:
Every Hulk is whatever the "carrier" keeps bottled up inside, so if he is "angry all the time", he isn't keeping this bottled, if he is accepting that life sucks always and you can't even die, then this sort of resignation can keep the Hulk inside. The motivation, then, shifts not to a completely mindless explosion of infantile rage, but a juvenile desire to cause destruction, he's no longer a kid throwing a tantrum, he is a teenager picking fights out of desire to hurt someone. Doctor Banner may be angry all the time, but he still have to superego that he wishes to cause destruction and not just blow off steam: that's the Hulk.
Our evil competitors. But seriously, my place was crazy, we had 12 auditoriums sold out, not a record (Twilight movies and Harry Potter can play to all 19). I saw it at an employee screening the night before mwahahaha.
Yeah marked for that one and my friends brother was wondering why I was laughing. It's like dude how can u not mark for that especially when they did it so well.
Mine too. Really enjoyed the movie. It would have been topped by 'Avengers Assemble' but that didn't make it :/
Second was the Hulk whip Loki scene. What sold it was the cut where Loki looked like Charlie Brown who missed kicking the football for the umpteenth time, lying on the floor.
D'awwwwwwwww :3Case in point. Also;
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MetalGuardian
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I for one was pleased to finally see the Cuddler Rapist receive the death penalty
Saw the film yesterday, first half is good, but a bit slow, the second half of the movie is pure joy, Iron Man and Hulk totally made this movie for me, the chemistry was amazing.
The only part that didn't click was Loki, stupid villain, he was just standing there during some parts of the movie.
Some questions:
a) Didn't see the second scene after-credits, is there some link?
b) Any chance we'll get Spider-Man in the sequel?
The only part that didn't click was Loki, stupid villain, he was just standing there during some parts of the movie.
Some questions:
a) Didn't see the second scene after-credits, is there some link?
b) Any chance we'll get Spider-Man in the sequel?
Alx
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Even worse, when they mentioned in the beginning that he was dating a cellist. Never say that you have a fiancée before going to battle, that's the surest way to die !!!
Glass Rebel
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I think Loki works incredibly well as a villain who does stuff you actually don't see.
b) Nope, Sony has the film rights.
Raitosaito
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Ready for the merchandise
The thoughts that this sentence spurred into my mind...
Case in point. Also;
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Right-click > save as "Son-of-Coul-and-Cap.jpg"
Why is he even aiming all the other times then? I agree, that scene kinda annoys me too. I'd rather have him display unusually fast bow skills or maybe shooting with more than one arrow to show that he is a good marksman.
Oh yeah! There was a serious lack of putting three arrows in the bow and taking 7 guys with it.
But then again, if it was up to me, he would wear a lot more purple.
Speedymanic
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Too add to this. Things I didn't like.
Inconsistent power levels, this is something that's plagued Whedon shows since Buffy. He, for whatever reasons, either weakens or severely overpowers characters to the point where you nearly lose all interest.
Case in point - IM vs Thor. How in the blue hell is IM able to take so many blows from Thor's hammer and not have single dent/any kind of visible damage on his armor? And not only that, he's able to basically manhandle Thor at certain points. Annoyed the hell out of me.
The jokes, while funny didn't particularly feel like they'd hold up on repeated viewings unless there was a reasonably big gap between viewings.
The end battle, maybe it was just me, but it didn't feel particularly epic. Sure, an army is coming through, but beyond a few cars blowing up and a few buildings being sideswiped, it didn't really look or feel like an invasion was happening.
Iron Man's armor in general. It gets demolished by some fans, but is able to resist both blows from Thor's hammer and repeated blasts from alien weapons. Unless it's made of the same material Cap's shield is made out of, but there's no indication it is.
Thor's power levels. Here's a guy who is able to nearly go toe to toe with the Hulk but gets owned by both Loki and IM. This annoyed me more than most, he's a got damn God, he shouldn't be getting owned by IM. Loki, maybe, but not IM.
Loki at the beginning - bulletproof or was the specter protecting him?
Overall, I thought it was good and actually managed to feel like a comic book movie, which is an achievement in itself, but it definitely had some issues that might seem pedantic or nit picking to others, but impacted the overall quality/enjoyment of the movie for me.
I'm going to give my full review tomorrow. It's not a 10/10.
Be ready.
I think that after the honeymoon period is over, people will start to realize that this movie, while awesome, is not as great as it could have been or as it seemed during the initial high after watching it.
The backlash will begin tomorrow imo. Just take a look at the latest posts, it's already begun.
Be ready.
I think that after the honeymoon period is over, people will start to realize that this movie, while awesome, is not as great as it could have been or as it seemed during the initial high after watching it.
The backlash will begin tomorrow imo. Just take a look at the latest posts, it's already begun.
alexthekid
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Oh my god this movie felt silly, It was like the architecture in Las Vegas. Like if a 3 year old made it, Just mix everything and it will be AWESOME.
And some of the dialogue was incredibly bad, I just can't stand when characters say stuff that ONLY make sense if they get one specific(but not obvious) answer so they can put out their next line, tying it together. Makes me cringe so hard.
And some of the dialogue was incredibly bad, I just can't stand when characters say stuff that ONLY make sense if they get one specific(but not obvious) answer so they can put out their next line, tying it together. Makes me cringe so hard.
I agree with Thor's power level being off. And I really agree Iron Man shouldn't be able to tank that much direct hits, but I think you're wrong about the invasion. It was a really big fucking emotional rollercoaster.
"OMG, aliens!" "Yay, the heroes are awesome" "OMFG A GIANT FLYING WORM" "HOLY SHIT THE HULK PUNCHED IT IN THE FACE" "FKFJSLKFSD THREE MORE WORMS!!" "JKFFKLFDKLHKJDFGHKDF CAPTAIN HAS A STRATEGY!" *dies of orgasm*
Difficult to say, as both characters have a lot of variations. The Hulk never have X power, it all depends on his motivation (anger) and Thanos is naturally as powerful as a cosmic villain is supposed to be (somewhat weaker than Thor or the Silver Surfer but stronger than a lot of the X-Men, for example), but he often finds a way to overpower, be it via some cosmic artifact, some deal with mistress death or his own ability to convert cosmic energy as his own.
"OMG, aliens!" "Yay, the heroes are awesome" "OMFG A GIANT FLYING WORM" "HOLY SHIT THE HULK PUNCHED IT IN THE FACE" "FKFJSLKFSD THREE MORE WORMS!!" "JKFFKLFDKLHKJDFGHKDF CAPTAIN HAS A STRATEGY!" *dies of orgasm*
Difficult to say, as both characters have a lot of variations. The Hulk never have X power, it all depends on his motivation (anger) and Thanos is naturally as powerful as a cosmic villain is supposed to be (somewhat weaker than Thor or the Silver Surfer but stronger than a lot of the X-Men, for example), but he often finds a way to overpower, be it via some cosmic artifact, some deal with mistress death or his own ability to convert cosmic energy as his own.
Razgriz-Specter
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I thought that Coulson being a Cap fanboy was a pretty good play on his reaction to Cap's shield in Iron Man 2.
And my god how can a guy weighing a few hundred pounds at best stop one of those flying moray eels? WTF Hulk? Can you suddenly stick to the ground?
Iron Man, good suit, but anytime you're hit by anything you should be turned into soup inside! Same concept as a car which is incredibly sturdy, hit a wall at 100 mph and the occupants are soup.
How come darts are destroying alien craft?
How come the aliens are flying to street level, why not blast shit from the stratosphere?
Why doesn't Ironman have Jeeves, who is clearly intelligent, remotely fly an army of Iron Man suits to help in the invasion?
I would post more but there are some nits in my hair I need to pick out. I need to buy some special shampoo.
Speedymanic
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I had a big grin on my face after the hulk scene, had it for the rest of the day, but the invasion didn't feel like one. Maybe it was money or time issue, but I expected more of an impact on the city.
You just reminded me, the cap strategy is something that annoyed me ever so slightly as well. All the heroes are boxed in, surrounded by aliens, but they don't attack until after he's told everyone what the plan of attack is? :/
These are a somewhat minor complaints, but they do negatively affect the movie as a whole.
Ooh, I forgot about that.
Speedymanic
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What's your point? Are we not allowed to discuss what we didn't like about the movie? Or are you just an idiot?
So apparently I was 100% right about Coulson. Whedon had nothing to do with it (despite his reputation), and it was planned by Marvel Studios form the get-go. I knew it! Feige also said something revealing in an interview:
"As realistic as we want our movies to be and you want to take them seriously, you do know and the comics have shown us, that anything is possible.... (And I think the letters LMD are even used in the Avengers at one point)"
I said it before and I just got proven right; there's no chance in hell that line was a coincidence like some were saying. Guess what; it wasn't.
"As realistic as we want our movies to be and you want to take them seriously, you do know and the comics have shown us, that anything is possible.... (And I think the letters LMD are even used in the Avengers at one point)"
I said it before and I just got proven right; there's no chance in hell that line was a coincidence like some were saying. Guess what; it wasn't.
Glass Rebel
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Your were nit picking. Those are my nits. I always have issues when something is not adequately explained. I did not allow it to put a damper on my enjoyment of the movie. You are entitled to believe whatever you like.
Nah, I loved cap strategy, wished he had more of these moments. They were boxed in, as you said, without a plan they will just bash whatever it is in front of them, but cap actually give good instructions.
Thor slows down the reinforcements, Hawkeye is a scout, Iron Man contains the battle in that specific area, he and the widow deal with whatever gets to the ground and the hulk jumps around picking whatever is on the air that either crossed Thor's lightning or isn't on Iron Man's perimeter (also, the big flying things only he can actually deal with). It makes incredible sense, I think, and it's not something they would do without instructions.
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I was talking about this with my girlfriend and maybe what lacked was a scene where they do try to bash everything at random and it fails, showing that they need the leadership, but this would break the pace too much, maybe. Still, anyone who played heroclix knows that coordinating a super-hero group is an art.
And more than any superpower, Captain America is the best at that.
IrrelevantNotch
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Is there any reason Spiderman didn't show up for the fight in Manhattan?
Sony owns his movie rights.
What Feige mentioned, the LMD. That's the Life-Model-Deocy in the comics, often used by Fury in order to enter a dangerous situation without the actually risks, since he's remotely operating the LMD from elsewhere. When Coulson's trying to call him, Stark delivers a funny line; "you have reached the life model decoy of tony stark", which establishes LMD's in the MC universe. Furthermore, the line was used in relation to Coulson specifically.
Not a coincidence.
Yeah he just couldn't find a way to get out of the house without aunt may noticing him. Tough luck.
Iron Man's suit got charged up 400% by Thor's lightning, making him much more powerful.
Thor never got owned by IM though. They had a good fight but by the end Thor was crushing IM's suit with his bare hands. He would have won if Cap didn't stop it.
Good Job Bob
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Was this shot even in the movie?
shanshan310
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If sony knows whats good for them (going on profits), they'll want Spiderman in the sequel.
And they should start producing games on Nintendo systems? They will not help a competitor, which Disney is to them.
Razgriz-Specter
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If you have Avengers and Spiderman working too closely together, then who cares if Spidy is being defeated by one of his villains if the Avengers can just easily save the day.
Its like having Superman & or Wonder Woman stationed in Gotham.
Its like having Superman & or Wonder Woman stationed in Gotham.
Only problem is Marvel has shown they don't need Spidey for their movie to make over $1 billion at the box office ><
shanshan310
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;.; Don't crush my dreams Log4girls. I want to believe.
IrrelevantNotch
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Except Spiderman lives in New York
edit - And if I had things my way Black Widow, hawkeye, and thor would be thrown into a black hole
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