Dating-Age |OT3| Positivity, Confidence, and Not Being a "Nice" Guy

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So yeah, go ahead and meet these guys. It'll be fun for you. :)

Infiltration from within. Keep your friends close, and your enemies closer, or something like that, haha.

I asked her tonight if we were seeing each other "exclusively", and she said yes. And I do trust her and believe her. Her guy friends, don't trust them at all so I'll try to keep my game up and just make sure none of them try to make a move, as difficult as that may be.
 
I don't know what's with me lately. I was talking with this girl last June and we started to get real close but we never made anything official, I didn't because I didn't want to be in a long distance relationship, and eventually I stopped liking her because of her weight, how she never seemed to have a good day, and bad manners. Things were rocky from October to december when I told her I wanted to stay friends. She had fallen for me pretty hard it seems.

We've still been talking since January but not flirting anymore, I've tried foing out with 3 other girls but nothing came from it. Pretty recently I've been enjoying her company a lot, at first it was from the horniness from going through the pron experiment. But I did the deed and am still thinking about her a lot. I know she still has feelings for me so I'm trying to be very careful with how I handle the whole situation. I can't tell if I really do like her or if it's just me trying to attach on to someone that's there.
 
I don't know what's with me lately. I was talking with this girl last June and we started to get real close but we never made anything official, I didn't because I didn't want to be in a long distance relationship, and eventually I stopped liking her because of her weight, how she never seemed to have a good day, and bad manners. Things were rocky from October to december when I told her I wanted to stay friends. She had fallen for me pretty hard it seems.

We've still been talking since January but not flirting anymore, I've tried foing out with 3 other girls but nothing came from it. Pretty recently I've been enjoying her company a lot, at first it was from the horniness from going through the pron experiment. But I did the deed and am still thinking about her a lot. I know she still has feelings for me so I'm trying to be very careful with how I handle the whole situation. I can't tell if I really do like her or if it's just me trying to attach on to someone that's there.

Don't make it too serious too fast. Wait a couple other days and decide if you want to be with her. If the answer is yes, go for it. Dating her is a good way to tell if you want to be with her. If not, break it off with lessons learned.

I spent the whole weekend at her place, now "officially" in a relationship with her. I feel like I've come a long way here.

Congrats! :)
 
Oh do I hate hearing the girlfriend talk about other men, her guy friends. "Oh he's so cute when he does this!" followed by me not saying anything... then her response is, "oh I loveeeee you Logan!!! You know that!", yet if I talk about one of my female friends, it's a whole other story.
 
Oh do I hate hearing the girlfriend talk about other men, her guy friends. "Oh he's so cute when he does this!" followed by me not saying anything... then her response is, "oh I loveeeee you Logan!!! You know that!", yet if I talk about one of my female friends, it's a whole other story.

it's a whole other story how?
 
Controlling cunt wont let me talk with other females. Ones that I just have class with, or simple stuff. Apparently my charm will work its way on them. Guess it goes into the whole trust factor which is in every single post on here.
You guys sound made for each other. Carry on.
 
Controlling cunt wont let me talk with other females. Ones that I just have class with, or simple stuff. Apparently my charm will work its way on them. Guess it goes into the whole trust factor which is in every single post on here.

Unacceptable in my book. You want friends of the opposite sex? Then I will have friends of the opposite sex, no ifs ands or buts.
 
I know... thats why i didnt do anything but i wanted to know you guys general opinion on the subject

Honestly it's kinda 'uncool' but it happens all the time. When I was in high school almost every moderately attractive girl I knew was dating someone in their 20's. Morally I don't see an issue with it, until you get to like 25 or so.
 
So, I sort of need to vent. Sometimes I'm so utterly flabbergasted and nonplussed (by women). Last friday it was a national holiday here in Holland, War Memorial. I went to the ceremony in Amsterdam with two good friends of mine (a couple), and a friend of theirs.

The four of us had a really great time, and I hit it off perfectly with the other girl. When I got home she texted me saying "she had a really great time", in response to a picture I had sent her, which I took that night. We keep texting for half an hour, and she's saying stuff like: "too bad the photographer (me) isn't in the picture ;)"

The next morning she texts me again, but I couldn't replie because of work. When I finished we kept texting throughout the night, on and off. Sundaymorning the conversation went on till twelve, and I had to stop, but it ended with a question of mine. To which she didn't reply. No problem.

Mondayafternoon I ask her something about her day, which she said she was pretty excited about before. I get a really short answer: "It was okay." And nothing more. The other times she texted elaborately. So I ask a follow up question, and she doesn't respond.

Now, I know I sound like a whiny pre-teen about texting...but her attitude changed so completely towards me, without any reason I can think of. From four consecutive(whatsapp) texts filled with jokes to, well, a stone wall. In the matter of a couple of hours.

I know she's busy with her education and work. I invited her to go climbing (which we both love), and she really wanted to go. She said she'd check her schedule for an opening and get back to me.

So, what do I do now? I know I'm not supposed to text her again per the "dating rules" so I don't look desperate. But the thing I liked about her was that she didn't seem to give a shit about that. And well. The texting conversations were really interesting. I won't text her anymore and will actually wait till she gets back to me. But this sucks.

Now I'm off to find a picture of a pussy on a pedestal. But I'm more puzzled than desperate.
 
I know... thats why i didnt do anything but i wanted to know you guys general opinion on the subject

From personal experience, dating anyone younger than you by 2 years while you're in your 20s is bad.

20 dating 18, the 18 year old usually goes bottom's up and finds a new toy to play with very soon, for example.

When you're 23 and dating an 18/19 year old, the feeling is worse.
 
From personal experience, dating anyone younger than you by 2 years while you're in your 20s is bad.

20 dating 18, the 18 year old usually goes bottom's up and finds a new toy to play with very soon, for example.

When you're 23 and dating an 18/19 year old, the feeling is worse.

I think you mean early 20's, right? It'd be crazy to apply that rule to a 28/25 combination.
 
So, I sort of need to vent. Sometimes I'm so utterly flabbergasted and nonplussed (by women). Last friday it was a national holiday here in Holland, War Memorial. I went to the ceremony in Amsterdam with two good friends of mine (a couple), and a friend of theirs.

The four of us had a really great time, and I hit it off perfectly with the other girl. When I got home she texted me saying "she had a really great time", in response to a picture I had sent her, which I took that night. We keep texting for half an hour, and she's saying stuff like: "too bad the photographer (me) isn't in the picture ;)"

The next morning she texts me again, but I couldn't replie because of work. When I finished we kept texting throughout the night, on and off. Sundaymorning the conversation went on till twelve, and I had to stop, but it ended with a question of mine. To which she didn't reply. No problem.

Mondayafternoon I ask her something about her day, which she said she was pretty excited about before. I get a really short answer: "It was okay." And nothing more. The other times she texted elaborately. So I ask a follow up question, and she doesn't respond.

Now, I know I sound like a whiny pre-teen about texting...but her attitude changed so completely towards me, without any reason I can think of. From four consecutive(whatsapp) texts filled with jokes to, well, a stone wall. In the matter of a couple of hours.

I know she's busy with her education and work. I invited her to go climbing (which we both love), and she really wanted to go. She said she'd check her schedule for an opening and get back to me.

So, what do I do now? I know I'm not supposed to text her again per the "dating rules" so I don't look desperate. But the thing I liked about her was that she didn't seem to give a shit about that. And well. The texting conversations were really interesting. I won't text her anymore and will actually wait till she gets back to me. But this sucks.

Now I'm off to find a picture of a pussy on a pedestal. But I'm more puzzled than desperate.
Sounds like she just lost interest. Happened to me too. Texting and skyping all fine and then suddenly nothing.
 
So, I sort of need to vent. Sometimes I'm so utterly flabbergasted and nonplussed (by women). Last friday it was a national holiday here in Holland, War Memorial. I went to the ceremony in Amsterdam with two good friends of mine (a couple), and a friend of theirs.

The four of us had a really great time, and I hit it off perfectly with the other girl. When I got home she texted me saying "she had a really great time", in response to a picture I had sent her, which I took that night. We keep texting for half an hour, and she's saying stuff like: "too bad the photographer (me) isn't in the picture ;)"

The next morning she texts me again, but I couldn't replie because of work. When I finished we kept texting throughout the night, on and off. Sundaymorning the conversation went on till twelve, and I had to stop, but it ended with a question of mine. To which she didn't reply. No problem.

Mondayafternoon I ask her something about her day, which she said she was pretty excited about before. I get a really short answer: "It was okay." And nothing more. The other times she texted elaborately. So I ask a follow up question, and she doesn't respond.

Now, I know I sound like a whiny pre-teen about texting...but her attitude changed so completely towards me, without any reason I can think of. From four consecutive(whatsapp) texts filled with jokes to, well, a stone wall. In the matter of a couple of hours.

I know she's busy with her education and work. I invited her to go climbing (which we both love), and she really wanted to go. She said she'd check her schedule for an opening and get back to me.

So, what do I do now? I know I'm not supposed to text her again per the "dating rules" so I don't look desperate. But the thing I liked about her was that she didn't seem to give a shit about that. And well. The texting conversations were really interesting. I won't text her anymore and will actually wait till she gets back to me. But this sucks.

Now I'm off to find a picture of a pussy on a pedestal. But I'm more puzzled than desperate.

This happens and oddly enough it could mean so many things that there's no use in analyzing why.

What you need to do is focus on the goal and focus on how to achieve it in your current position. Whatever happened, you're at a slight disadvantage now to where you were and you won't even know why that is and neither might she. I've been in similar situations as has most men if they have enough experience.

Instead, your objective now is to meet her one on one somehow and once there, plan the conversation to lead up to asking her out on a date. There are so many factors to this that will need to be unique to your situation, there's no real template to follow for success.

Until then you shouldn't initiate any communication with her if you want her to respond (again a strange but oddly correct strategy) and hope that she'll get back to you. But the ultimate rule is to stay cool, calm, collected and don't associate yourself to her with any bad thoughts of regret, blame, or whatever. Not even jokingly.

If she doesn't then she didn't really like you that much and so you should be looking elsewhere. Second chances to start over are only really available if you can casually run into her again, such as with co-workers etc. since everything else will be off-putting. If you need to, send a follow-up message much later (some time after your next climbing event and planning for another one).

Something like: "Hey, didn't hear back from you regarding my last climbing trip to X. You really missed out on A,B,C. Anyways one of my mates pulled out on me and I remembered that you liked climbing. Could be even more interesting then last time. Give me a call at 999-999-9999 by the Xth if you're interested. It's going to be awesome."

Again it's hard to give a template because there are nuances unique to your situation that should color each respective person's scenario.
 
So, I sort of need to vent. Sometimes I'm so utterly flabbergasted and nonplussed (by women). Last friday it was a national holiday here in Holland, War Memorial. I went to the ceremony in Amsterdam with two good friends of mine (a couple), and a friend of theirs.

The four of us had a really great time, and I hit it off perfectly with the other girl. When I got home she texted me saying "she had a really great time", in response to a picture I had sent her, which I took that night. We keep texting for half an hour, and she's saying stuff like: "too bad the photographer (me) isn't in the picture ;)"

The next morning she texts me again, but I couldn't replie because of work. When I finished we kept texting throughout the night, on and off. Sundaymorning the conversation went on till twelve, and I had to stop, but it ended with a question of mine. To which she didn't reply. No problem.

Mondayafternoon I ask her something about her day, which she said she was pretty excited about before. I get a really short answer: "It was okay." And nothing more. The other times she texted elaborately. So I ask a follow up question, and she doesn't respond.

Now, I know I sound like a whiny pre-teen about texting...but her attitude changed so completely towards me, without any reason I can think of. From four consecutive(whatsapp) texts filled with jokes to, well, a stone wall. In the matter of a couple of hours.

I know she's busy with her education and work. I invited her to go climbing (which we both love), and she really wanted to go. She said she'd check her schedule for an opening and get back to me.

So, what do I do now? I know I'm not supposed to text her again per the "dating rules" so I don't look desperate. But the thing I liked about her was that she didn't seem to give a shit about that. And well. The texting conversations were really interesting. I won't text her anymore and will actually wait till she gets back to me. But this sucks.

Now I'm off to find a picture of a pussy on a pedestal. But I'm more puzzled than desperate.

If she lost interest, well what can you do. Or, she feels she came on too strong and is changing tactics. If a girl likes you, she WILL make it very obvious again. Lay low as others have said, wait for her and take it slow from there. If she just totally ignores you, then you find someone else.
 
From personal experience, dating anyone younger than you by 2 years while you're in your 20s is bad.
Why's that? My mother's about 3 years younger than my father. They met just after university and have been married roughly 30 years.

Personally, I'm 24 and dating a 21-year-old. She's almost exactly the age I was when I graduated university. I don't think I've experienced tremendous personal growth or undergone huge, life-altering changes since then.
 
If my ex is in another country and keeps harassing me online, is there anything I can do about it, like reporting it to the police in my country?

Preferably, is there any way to block her from my Gmail? I clicked on 'Block' in s pop up menu, but apparently she is still able to send me emails. =/
 
This happens and oddly enough it could mean so many things that there's no use in analyzing why.

What you need to do is focus on the goal and focus on how to achieve it in your current position. Whatever happened, you're at a slight disadvantage now to where you were and you won't even know why that is and neither might she. I've been in similar situations as has most men if they have enough experience.

Instead, your objective now is to meet her one on one somehow and once there, plan the conversation to lead up to asking her out on a date. There are so many factors to this that will need to be unique to your situation, there's no real template to follow for success.

Until then you shouldn't initiate any communication with her if you want her to respond (again a strange but oddly correct strategy) and hope that she'll get back to you. But the ultimate rule is to stay cool, calm, collected and don't associate yourself to her with any bad thoughts of regret, blame, or whatever. Not even jokingly.

If she doesn't then she didn't really like you that much and so you should be looking elsewhere. Second chances to start over are only really available if you can casually run into her again, such as with co-workers etc. since everything else will be off-putting. If you need to, send a follow-up message much later (some time after your next climbing event and planning for another one).

Something like: "Hey, didn't hear back from you regarding my last climbing trip to X. You really missed out on A,B,C. Anyways one of my mates pulled out on me and I remembered that you liked climbing. Could be even more interesting then last time. Give me a call at 999-999-9999 by the Xth if you're interested. It's going to be awesome."

Again it's hard to give a template because there are nuances unique to your situation that should color each respective person's scenario.

The last bolded: great advice. Thanks

And how would I go about combining the first and second bolded? :P Though luckily the friend of mine who also came along kind of wants to set us up. So I guess she'll try to get us together a couple more times. It's probably best if I don't contact her again before then?

This sucks. Dating like this sucks :P If I like something, and want something, I usually just go out and get it. Doing nothing is not my strong suit. What idiot invented the idea that you would not continue doing something you like? (it's a rhetorical question, just blowing off some steam.)
 
So, I sort of need to vent. Sometimes I'm so utterly flabbergasted and nonplussed (by women). Last friday it was a national holiday here in Holland, War Memorial. I went to the ceremony in Amsterdam with two good friends of mine (a couple), and a friend of theirs.

The four of us had a really great time, and I hit it off perfectly with the other girl. When I got home she texted me saying "she had a really great time", in response to a picture I had sent her, which I took that night. We keep texting for half an hour, and she's saying stuff like: "too bad the photographer (me) isn't in the picture ;)"

The next morning she texts me again, but I couldn't replie because of work. When I finished we kept texting throughout the night, on and off. Sundaymorning the conversation went on till twelve, and I had to stop, but it ended with a question of mine. To which she didn't reply. No problem.

Mondayafternoon I ask her something about her day, which she said she was pretty excited about before. I get a really short answer: "It was okay." And nothing more. The other times she texted elaborately. So I ask a follow up question, and she doesn't respond.

Now, I know I sound like a whiny pre-teen about texting...but her attitude changed so completely towards me, without any reason I can think of. From four consecutive(whatsapp) texts filled with jokes to, well, a stone wall. In the matter of a couple of hours.

I know she's busy with her education and work. I invited her to go climbing (which we both love), and she really wanted to go. She said she'd check her schedule for an opening and get back to me.

So, what do I do now? I know I'm not supposed to text her again per the "dating rules" so I don't look desperate. But the thing I liked about her was that she didn't seem to give a shit about that. And well. The texting conversations were really interesting. I won't text her anymore and will actually wait till she gets back to me. But this sucks.

Now I'm off to find a picture of a pussy on a pedestal. But I'm more puzzled than desperate.

There's the thing right there. I know it's difficult to not think about it, but just don't think about it til she gets back to you. Something similar happened to me, she got back to me, and guess what: She's my girlfriend now.
 
I'm having a problem with messaging. There's a girl I started chatting to and at the start it was fine, we started texting but the thing is she never asks questions back or I guess naturally keeps the flow of the conversation going so I'm kinda struggling to think of stuff to say. She isn't blunt or seemingly uninterested but there's no flow. I feel like I'm carrying the momentum myself. She seems interested though. She said I looked like some English actor or artist, I didn't know him, so I asked if that was a good thing and she says "Yeah, he's hot" ;) and my flirting to her was well received.

So there's clearly some interest but fuck it's getting hard messaging her because I don't want to just be boring and go "How are you? What did you get up to today?" ect.
 
I'm having a problem with messaging. There's a girl I started chatting to and at the start it was fine, we started texting but the thing is she never asks questions back or I guess naturally keeps the flow of the conversation going so I'm kinda struggling to think of stuff to say. She isn't blunt or seemingly uninterested but there's no flow. I feel like I'm carrying the momentum myself. She seems interested though. She said I looked like some English actor or artist, I didn't know him, so I asked if that was a good thing and she says "Yeah, he's hot" ;) and my flirting to her was well received.

So there's clearly some interest but fuck it's getting hard messaging her because I don't want to just be boring and go "How are you? What did you get up to today?" ect.

If someone was doing all the work, I'd let them. No effort required on my part, so why not?

You should probably move to meeting up in person though.
 
If my ex is in another country and keeps harassing me online, is there anything I can do about it, like reporting it to the police in my country?

Preferably, is there any way to block her from my Gmail? I clicked on 'Block' in s pop up menu, but apparently she is still able to send me emails. =/

mark her email as spam? Block is for chats
 
Hello Dating Age, i usally dont post too much, more of a follower here but i really need your help.

last weekend i went to a turkish wedding and there i spotted the most beautifull girl ever but i couldnt get myself to speak with here in front of all the guests there and ended up just having a few eye contacts with her. 2 days later, still crazy about her, i call one of my cousins and try to get some info about the girl. turns out my cousins knows her name and also tells me that she is friends with one of my fb friends, so i stalked her ^^ to my luck i found her fb profile and decided to write her a charming little message.

it roughtly went like this: hello "girls name" im sorry for writing you out of the blue but since i saw you on the wedding, last weekend, i just cant stop thinking about you. the moment i entered the room you caught my eye and i couldnt get you out of my head for the rest of the night. your beautiful smile, your friendly and very warm attitude really left a deep impression on me. i like you and want to get to know you! how about it?

and then she wrote me back: hello "Mr. Smith" i dont know how to say this but i was really surprised by your massage. im really sorry but, right now, im not ready for any kind of relationship or anything of that sort. please dont get me wrong but im not thinking about dating someone for now or will be in a long time.

so im really happy that the girl was so straight and i completely understand her point but i just dont want to give up on her so easily. so this is where i turn to you dating gaf, because i have no idea how to reply to her in a way that would somewhat turn my luck arround. i mean, no matter what put here in this kind of mindset, she has to recover from it eventually and start seeing other people again. its just that i want to be the one showing her the beauty of a prosper relationship. please help me, i know this is no ordinary request and not really knowing her doesnt make things any easier...
 
Nothing you do now will turn your luck around, but it could make you look like a creep.

Proceed as you will.

In future, talk to girls instead of just staring at them.
 
Hello Dating Age, i usally dont post too much, more of a follower here but i really need your help.

last weekend i went to a turkish wedding and there i spotted the most beautifull girl ever but i couldnt get myself to speak with here in front of all the guests there and ended up just having a few eye contacts with her. 2 days later, still crazy about her, i call one of my cousins and try to get some info about the girl. turns out my cousins knows her name and also tells me that she is friends with one of my fb friends, so i stalked her ^^ to my luck i found her fb profile and decided to write her a charming little message.

it roughtly went like this: hello "girls name" im sorry for writing you out of the blue but since i saw you on the wedding, last weekend, i just cant stop thinking about you. the moment i entered the room you caught my eye and i couldnt get you out of my head for the rest of the night. your beautiful smile, your friendly and very warm attitude really left a deep impression on me. i like you and want to get to know you! how about it?

and then she wrote me back: hello "Mr. Smith" i dont know how to say this but i was really surprised by your massage. im really sorry but, right now, im not ready for any kind of relationship or anything of that sort. please dont get me wrong but im not thinking about dating someone for now or will be in a long time.

so im really happy that the girl was so straight and i completely understand her point but i just dont want to give up on her so easily. so this is where i turn to you dating gaf, because i have no idea how to reply to her in a way that would somewhat turn my luck arround. i mean, no matter what put here in this kind of mindset, she has to recover from it eventually and start seeing other people again. its just that i want to be the one showing her the beauty of a prosper relationship. please help me, i know this is no ordinary request and not really knowing her doesnt make things any easier...

600 emails.



She was letting you down nicely. Sorry, you have no chance.
 
she was basically telling you that you are being creepy, in a nice way.......

how is this creepy? i was polite, honest and straight. from my learnings, this is the best way to get a reply from girls and it worked really well for me till know. arent guys messaging girls on fb all the time? what should i have done instead?
 
how is this creepy? i was polite, honest and straight. from my learnings, this is the best way to get a reply from girls and it worked really well for me till know. arent guys messaging girls on fb all the time? what should i have done instead?


this thread wouldn't have 8,000 posts if what you do works....... It's creepy because you can't stop thinking about somebody you don't even know.


do you honestly think this chick hasn't already gotten hundreds of these types of messages before?
 
600 emails.



She was letting you down nicely. Sorry, you have no chance.

yeah i was getting the same vipe, but what could i have done different? im working on myself but im still not able to just walk up to people and start a conversation with them. im dealling with a lot of social anorexia. i just dont know what to talk about or how to keep the conversation going.
 
yeah i was getting the same vipe, but what could i have done different? im working on myself but im still not able to just walk up to people and start a conversation with them. im dealling with a lot of social anorexia. i just dont know what to talk about or how to keep the conversation going.

Well, say speaking to her in person wasn't possible or you were too shy. What you said to her on FB creeped her out. I would have been more like "Hey, I remember you from the wedding, what's up?". That would have like a 1% better chance lol. I would just try to speak to her a little bit and then see if we can meet in person. But kinda just gushing on about her after a random meeting at a wedding...yeah makes you seem desperate.
 
this thread wouldn't have 8,000 posts if what you do works....... It's creepy because you can't stop thinking about somebody you don't even know.


do you honestly think this chick hasn't already gotten hundreds of these types of messages before?

i do get your point, but its not like i never saw her in the flesh. we were even dancing next to each other a few times. i just couldnt get myself to talk to her back then. how can it not be okay to think about somebody you saw, i mean isnt this how having a crush one someone works most of the time? is till dont seem to get it
 
i do get your point, but its not like i never saw her in the flesh. we were even dancing next to each other a few times. i just couldnt get myself to talk to her back then. how can it not be okay to think about somebody you saw, i mean isnt this how having a crush one someone works most of the time? is till dont seem to get it

When you were next to her was when you should have spoken to her.

It is okay for you to think about her now, but it won't help you much.

Also, "crushes" aren't a good mating strategy.
 
Well, say speaking to her in person wasn't possible or you were too shy. What you said to her on FB creeped her out. I would have been more like "Hey, I remember you from the wedding, what's up?". That would have like a 1% better chance lol. I would just try to speak to her a little bit and then see if we can meet in person. But kinda just gushing on about her after a random meeting at a wedding...yeah makes you seem desperate.

oh man everything you say makes so much sens, and i thought i knew what i was doing. i was so full of myself, damit.
 
so i see there is no point in trying to fix things up :( is there at least something i can write her back, so i dont seem like a total creep for the slim chances of ever seeing her again IRL? i really dont want to be rememberd as a creepy guy :(
 
In future, talk to girls instead of just staring at them.

I so need to follow this advice, though I don't really stare.
I've seen this amazing girl at my usual bus stop twice in the last few days, but I start thinking about should I or shouldn't I, so eventually I just don't do anything. I kind of think she's way out of my league at the moment, but having regrets, I feel, is worse than finding out whether or not I actually have a chance.
I really need to stop my thinking getting in the way, even though I know what to say. And If I see her again, good chance I will, I don't even know...
 
our comunity here is a small one. so lets say i see her again someday how am i supposed to react? i just can act like nothing ever happend, can i?

Just give her a quick smile, that's all. Don't stare, don't approach. Look her in the eye half a second, give a warm smile and move on.
 
Hi guys i dont posten very often, but i need the general opinion about ages

Im 20 years old and there are these two girls who seem to like me, and even though they look about 17, theyre 15, i still feel uncomfortable about the age-gap

I know no one has problems with a 25 to 20 years gap, but this is different

What do you think?
Stay clear and just ignore.
 
I so need to follow this advice, though I don't really stare.
I've seen this amazing girl at my usual bus stop twice in the last few days, but I start thinking about should I or shouldn't I, so eventually I just don't do anything. I kind of think she's way out of my league at the moment, but having regrets, I feel, is worse than finding out whether or not I actually have a chance.
I really need to stop my thinking getting in the way, even though I know what to say. And If I see her again, good chance I will, I don't even know...

i know where your coming from man, i really do. i could tell you a hundred stories about me having eye contact with the most beautifull girls but not being able to make the next step :( from my point of view there are only 2 ways to hadle this. 1. jump into the cold water and see how it wents. there is no point in overthinking things. if it works it works. if it doesnt, write it down as a learning and be better on your next pray. 2. it really isnt good for your confidence if you keep on torturing youself with this. if you dont think you are ready to take it to the next step dont even start having heavy eye contact with random girls, exept you are comited to number one, than you take the jump.
 
thanks for the quick help everyone, saved me from digging myself even more into the creepy ground :) i will try to talk to girls more directly from now on but it wont be easy for me...
 
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