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Hey, leave the Sabres out of this thread. They break my heart... and make me want nude pictures of Magic playing men...

It's my current wallpaper. Didn't even know what the card was. Yeah, that card is pretty bad lol.



How so cheap? My LGS sells it for $107 +tax. :|

He offers them day 1 at that price. Except on day 1 this set he was shipped like 1/7 of the amount he was supposed to get due to an error. So he's getting the rest today I guess.

A note on eBay. I've mostly had success using the site to buy cards. But I did recently get a "NM" foil From the Vault Sword of Body and Mind that is gouged to hell around the edges to the point that the foil is coming off. Still waiting for resolution on that one. But it's my only compliant so far.
 
Hey, leave the Sabres out of this thread. They break my heart... and make me want nude pictures of Magic playing men...



He offers them day 1 at that price. Except on day 1 this set he was shipped like 1/7 of the amount he was supposed to get due to an error. So he's getting the rest today I guess.

:lol Sorry man.

I'm still jelly since my shop is $110+tax but I found some online for $100 each so I got that last week so I'll hopefully have it this week. I wish my LGS was better.
 
:lol Sorry man.

I'm still jelly since my shop is $110+tax but I found some online for $100 each so I got that last week so I'll hopefully have it this week. I wish my LGS was better.

Eh, it's cool lol Both of our teams are golfing now. I'd like you guys better without Crosby. But we're crossing threads now.

If it makes you feel any better, my first box didn't have anything all that great in it. Maybe this second one will lol
 
Eh, it's cool lol Both of our teams are golfing now. I'd like you guys better without Crosby. But we're crossing threads now.

If it makes you feel any better, my first box didn't have anything all that great in it. Maybe this second one will lol

I'm also hoping with all the other shit packs I opened that my boxes are amazing but I won't know until later this week. :P
 
So, I'm starting to get back into magic pretty hardcore. Can anybody give me a good website or program for tracking cards/building decks for mac? Is there anything out there that tracks what language you have the card in, as well? Thanks so much, I feel like such a noob.

On a side note: You know what feels good? Opening a pack of Russian Avacyn Restored and pulling two Tamiyos, one foil one not.
 
So, I'm starting to get back into magic pretty hardcore. Can anybody give me a good website or program for tracking cards/building decks for mac? Is there anything out there that tracks what language you have the card in, as well? Thanks so much, I feel like such a noob.

On a side note: You know what feels good? Opening a pack of Russian Avacyn Restored and pulling two Tamiyos, one foil one not.

I don't know about tracking language, but the site listed before (deckbox.org) is great for managing your cards, I'm finding.

On my own side note:

I'm pretty sure I'm just gonna make this curse deck I've been playing in MTGO. It's too much fun and got too many crazy combos to not play it.

I've got two bitterheart witches out, a curse of pierced heart, curse of stalked prey, curse of thirst. I whipflare my witches and put out two curse of bloodletting. Thirst ticks for 20 damage >:D
 
My local card shop sells Avacyn Restored booster box for $90, but he's currently out of stock. His distributor he gets it from is out too. Won't get any new shipment until Friday. /sigh
 
Just filed a complaint, does anyone know if you have to pay return shipping if they judge in your favor that they lied about the condition of the item? I really don't want to pay shipping for something this guy lied about. :/
 
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Fuck this card.

Last couple of days one of my coworkers has been playing a White/Red/Green humans deck with this cunt as the centerpiece. Ugh.
 
I recall us shitting on that card pretty hard when it was revealed. Interesting how these things work out.

My LCS has officially lost my business for good. Went there yesterday, preordered a box that was coming in today. Went there today, a different guy said "Oh, man we only have 3 boxes." Then stopped like that was it. "Well, cool. I'd like to buy the one I ordered yesterday."

"But we only have 3 boxes. Sorry, but we have more coming Thursday."

Basically, they wanted to keep them to sell as packs (no drafts going until FNM). The whole time he's talking to me, he's also haggling with some little dude over a .25 cent difference in some Pokemon card. I waited for him to put together that while he was trying to get an extra quarter, he was going to let a guy who wanted to spend a hundred bucks walk away. For no particular reason.

That's cool. I'll just take my 600 dollar a month spending habit somewhere else, assholes.
 
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Fuck this card.

Last couple of days one of my coworkers has been playing a White/Red/Green humans deck with this cunt as the centerpiece. Ugh.

Really? What else do they have in the deck? I thought it dies to vapor snag.


I recall us shitting on that card pretty hard when it was revealed. Interesting how these things work out.

My LCS has officially lost my business for good. Went there yesterday, preordered a box that was coming in today. Went there today, a different guy said "Oh, man we only have 3 boxes." Then stopped like that was it. "Well, cool. I'd like to buy the one I ordered yesterday."

"But we only have 3 boxes. Sorry, but we have more coming Thursday."

Basically, they wanted to keep them to sell as packs (no drafts going until FNM). The whole time he's talking to me, he's also haggling with some little dude over a .25 cent difference in some Pokemon card. I waited for him to put together that while he was trying to get an extra quarter, he was going to let a guy who wanted to spend a hundred bucks walk away. For no particular reason.

That's cool. I'll just take my 600 dollar a month spending habit somewhere else, assholes.

Ya, I'm sort of tired of mine also but for slightly different reasons. We had the prerelease tournaments and the new prize structure which was fine until we found out that he has 3 boxes of prize packs yet and now he's trying to use them for a "league" where you buy one get one free on packs... I can see being off by a little with the prize structure since it goes by wins and you don't know if there will be a lot of 3-1s or 2-2s but 3 boxes is bullshit. Not really happy about that. They're prize packs, he shouldn't still have them.
 
Ya, I'm sort of tired of mine also but for slightly different reasons. We had the prerelease tournaments and the new prize structure which was fine until we found out that he has 3 boxes of prize packs yet and now he's trying to use them for a "league" where you buy one get one free on packs... I can see being off by a little with the prize structure since it goes by wins and you don't know if there will be a lot of 3-1s or 2-2s but 3 boxes is bullshit. Not really happy about that. They're prize packs, he shouldn't still have them.

It's cool. I really do spend an obscene amount of money on this hobby. I'll just spend it elsewhere. Something I've noticed is these store owners are largely fans of the game, and terrible, terrible fucking businesspeople.
 
It's cool. I really do spend an obscene amount of money on this hobby. I'll just spend it elsewhere. Something I've noticed is these store owners are largely fans of the game, and terrible, terrible fucking businesspeople.

Haha, mine is the opposite and creates problems like you see with mine. I'll just order things online from now on, it's like $20+ in savings for buying a box so no real detriment to me.
 
It's cool. I really do spend an obscene amount of money on this hobby. I'll just spend it elsewhere. Something I've noticed is these store owners are largely fans of the game, and terrible, terrible fucking businesspeople.

I've seen it go both ways but recently the stores I've been buying/playing at have definitely had good businessmen at the helm.
 
I've seen it go both ways but recently the stores I've been buying/playing at have definitely had good businessmen at the helm.

Maybe I'm in a weird area. Dunno. If I could put up with hoards of kids, I might even think of opening a shop one day. I'm seeing so many terrible mistakes.

For instance. Was browsing the case. Some woman comes up, asks the store owner for some help. She is a new player, played DotP and wanted to buy her own cards. She asked a very basic question (I think how many cards each could be in a deck) the owner interrupts her and drops a big ass book of rules on the counter and says "It's all in there." Then walked away.

That's like a fucking crack dealer handing out DARE pamphlets to new users.

I felt bad for the girl, and coached her through some basics. She bought one of those 2012 starter deck dealios and left the store.
 

Did they have any ramp? Did Asceticism actually do anything? I've tried to play that multiple times in my green decks and it was always too slow to do any good and wasn't worth it by the time you were able to play it late game or everything you were most worried about protecting was gone.

Edit: It seems like a lot of five drops... Seems like it would be too slow to get much no?


Maybe I'm in a weird area. Dunno. If I could put up with hoards of kids, I might even think of opening a shop one day. I'm seeing so many terrible mistakes.

For instance. Was browsing the case. Some woman comes up, asks the store owner for some help. She is a new player, played DotP and wanted to buy her own cards. She asked a very basic question (I think how many cards each could be in a deck) the owner interrupts her and drops a big ass book of rules on the counter and says "It's all in there." Then walked away.

That's like a fucking crack dealer handing out DARE pamphlets to new users.

I felt bad for the girl, and coached her through some basics. She bought one of those 2012 starter deck dealios and left the store.

Eh, it was douche but if he's been there long enough you get a lot of people who talk your ear off also. I've seen it happen a lot where it's hard for us to even buy stuff because they talk so much but that's usually comic book people who just created their own comic book and want to have it stocked there though.
 
We play 2 headed giant during our lunch games so he has a partner running interference.

He's got cheap stuff like champion of the parish, the priests that tap guys down and whatnot too.
 
We play 2 headed giant during our lunch games so he has a partner running interference.

He's got cheap stuff like champion of the parish, the priests that tap guys down and whatnot too.

Ah, two headed giant changes a lot. My taxes deck sort of sucks solo but is brutal in 2HG once I get it going.
 
Got my box of Avacyn today. Opened up one pack and got a Sigarda. I'm waiting to open the rest for when my friend who I'm splitting it with comes over later this week. The temptation to open more is quite hard to resist.

Edit: Okay. I opened one more pack and the rare was a Conjurer's Closet. That should sufficiently convince me to wait, lest I get punished more. So this probably won't end with me waking up in the morning surrounded by discarded booster wrappers. Though there must be something cool you can do with that card in some deck somewhere.

Edit 2: I guess it could be alright in my pod deck. But I'd rather just keep the Mimic Vats.
 
Got my box of Avacyn today. Opened up one pack and got a Sigarda. I'm waiting to open the rest for when my friend who I'm splitting it with comes over later this week. The temptation to open more is quite hard to resist.

Edit: Okay. I opened one more pack and the rare was a Conjurer's Closet. That should sufficiently convince me to wait, lest I get punished more. So this probably won't end with me waking up in the morning surrounded by discarded booster wrappers. Though there must be something cool you can do with that card in some deck somewhere.

Edit 2: I guess it could be alright in my pod deck. But I'd rather just keep the Mimic Vats.

I was thinking about it for my skin render deck but it's pricey... It saved my ass in limited though, used it in the prerelease I went 3-1 in.
 
Lurebound scarecrow will almost always be sacrificed immediately after playing it. The longest it could possibly live is the end of the turn you played it.

Edit: Ok, I didn't see prismatic omen, but if you don't have one or it gets destroyed, Lurbound is a dead card.

Hmm... maybe I should stick a few Painter's Servants in there.
 
I dunno about the first card, but the other two cards are really good together. The Thatcher Revolt ends up making 3 1/1 tokens with +3/+3 and makes the Goldnight Commander a 2/2 with +3/+3

Specifically the last two interact extremely well with the Champion of Lambholt. Drop the Champion on turn 3, the Commander on turn four, on turn five play the Thatcher Revolt and swing for 8+5+4+4+4 = 25 damage that can only be blocked by creatures with power 5 or greater. If you pull it off it seems like its basically insta-win, the problem is getting three turns without getting disrupted somehow. I think ideally if I was playing that I'd want some ramp so that I could be pulling this off earlier as well as hopefully sparing a turn to drop Asceticism on turn four or so.
 
I dunno about the first card, but the other two cards are really good together. The Thatcher Revolt ends up making 3 1/1 tokens with +3/+3 and gives all your other creatures +3/+3

It also turns the champion of Lambholt into a 8/8 and makes your entire troupe (a 8/8 champ, a 5/5 commander and 3 4/4 tokens) essentially unblockable. For you math nerds that's 25 unblockable damage.

The asceticism just solves the "dies to vapor snag" thing.

EDIT: Beaten. Though they can only be blocked by creatures with power 8 or greater, not 5.
 
It also turns the champion of Lambholt into a 8/8 and makes your entire troupe (a 8/8 champ, a 5/5 commander and 3 4/4 tokens) essentially unblockable. For you math nerds that's 25 unblockable damage.

The asceticism just solves the "dies to vapor snag" thing.

EDIT: Beaten. Though they can only be blocked by creatures with power 8 or greater, not 5.
Oh right, its Lambholts power, not the number of counters on it. What's the other AVR card that checks for number of counters for a similar-ish effect?

EDIT: The vampire burner, that's what I was getting it confused with
 
Specifically the last two interact extremely well with the Champion of Lambholt. Drop the Champion on turn 3, the Commander on turn four, on turn five play the Thatcher Revolt and swing for 8+5+4+4+4 = 25 damage that can only be blocked by creatures with power 5 or greater. If you pull it off it seems like its basically insta-win, the problem is getting three turns without getting disrupted somehow. I think ideally if I was playing that I'd want some ramp so that I could be pulling this off earlier as well as hopefully sparing a turn to drop Asceticism on turn four or so.

Keep in mind this can easily turn into a turn 4 play if you've got a mana dork.
 
Played in my first AVR draft last night. After all the talk about the set's lack of spot removal, I snatched as many as I could early on. No one else at the table went black as far as I could tell, so I wound up with Death Wind, 2xBone Splinters, 2xBarter in Blood (how does that happen?), as well as the 2 damage to attacker/blocker for W. In the process, I neglected to snag too many studly creatures, so I had to play Commander's Authority, which wound up kicking ass. The card worked exceptionally well the game it found its way onto Goldnight Commander, the tokens made sweet additional payments for Bone Splinters, and even made it so that I could play aggressively while holding Barter in Blood. For the most part, my creatures were pretty average, with the exceptions being Blood Artist and a Gisela that I rare-drafted third pack and wound up running two Mountains to splash for.

Among the highlights were a game where I curved out with Blood Artist followed by the black dude who makes each player lose 3 when he dies, the guy who gives -2/-2 to a guy when he dies, and then the Bloodflow Connoisseur who has sac a creature: put a +1/+1 counter on her. Basically Mortarpoded the guy to death on turn 5. My favorite play, however, was blocking Malignus with Marrow Bats and paying 4 life once in combat to regenerate and a second time during end step to kill the Malignus. Definitely lost that game, but had a really good time doing so. I had the unfortunate and embarrassing distinction of hitting the board with Gisela all three games against this Malignus player only to somehow lose the match (once because he had the soulbond miller and soulbond untapper combo and the other because, as stated above, I should not be trusted with Marrow Bats).

This set is hella fun and I'll be drafting it many, many more times.

As a side note, does it seem like AVR is really light on playable commons and uncommons in standard? Seems like for a large set, the only ones that spring to mind as staples are Pillar of Flame, Cloudshift, and maybe Appetite for Brains. Also, Restoration Angels are an unobtainable commodity at my local store. There were three or four guys who already had their playsets put together, but every single other patron in the store was desperately trying to trade for them. Value has got to be climbing on that card.
 
So, I finally got to see a Miracle played for it's miracle cost. Unfortunately, it was against me and it was the green one that lets you distribute 4 +1/+1 counters any way you see fit. She put them on the Wolf spirit guy that is ublockable as long as it has the highest power on the field.

Still, there is a kinda cool feeling to seeing a miracle swing a game around like that. Bet I'd be mad if it wasn't casual play though.
 
So, I finally got to see a Miracle played for it's miracle cost. Unfortunately, it was against me and it was the green one that lets you distribute 4 +1/+1 counters any way you see fit. She put them on the Wolf spirit guy that is ublockable as long as it has the highest power on the field.

Still, there is a kinda cool feeling to seeing a miracle swing a game around like that. Bet I'd be mad if it wasn't casual play though.

I'm looking forward to the streams from Barcelona this weekend. I hope at least one top 8 game is won because of a miracle.
 
I'm looking forward to the streams from Barcelona this weekend. I hope at least one top 8 game is won because of a miracle.
The local guys going think the best deck will be the one with Bonfire of the Damned that doesn't lose to it. Entreat the Angels will be a big game as well.
 
So, I finally got to see a Miracle played for it's miracle cost. Unfortunately, it was against me and it was the green one that lets you distribute 4 +1/+1 counters any way you see fit. She put them on the Wolf spirit guy that is ublockable as long as it has the highest power on the field.

Still, there is a kinda cool feeling to seeing a miracle swing a game around like that. Bet I'd be mad if it wasn't casual play though.

Wait until someone top decks bonfire of the damned late game on you. That's a deflating feeling.
 
Yup

Constructed or limited, I draw my Bonfire and the game is over

Ya, I don't know if there's ever a bad time to draw it. Maybe opening hand? But even then it might not be too bad.


Edit: What do people think of descendants path in a human deck? Worthwhile or there would be better things to cast in that slot?
 
I pulled it in the same game, but on like, my second draw. Still, a 3 cost board wipe is pretty handy.

That card is going to go up in value, no doubt.

Haha, ya even then it's less epic but still is nice to wipe the board AND do damage to them as you're fine.


If anyone has any suggestions for my R/W/G humans deck I'd appreciate it. This is my preliminary thinking.

Creatures
4x Champion of lambholt
4x Champion of the parish
4x Lightning Mauler
4x Silverblade paladin
2x Zealous Conscripts
4x Goldnight Commander (Still not sure how I like him, feels like he's too late to be useful but not sure...)

Spells
4x Shock
1x Thunderous Wrath
1x Bonfire of the Damned (Maybe have 2 and 0 thunderous wrath?)
4x Thatcher Revolt

Lands
4x Cavern of Souls
4x Clifftop Retreat
4x Copperline Gorge
4x Razorverge thicket
5x Plains
3x Mountains
1x Forests

That's at 57 cards... I'm not sure about the mana since most are cheap but I have to up that and I'm not sure if I want any evolving wilds or not. I haven't sleeved it all up so I'm not sure the mana ratio yet.
 
Haha, ya even then it's less epic but still is nice to wipe the board AND do damage to them as you're fine.


If anyone has any suggestions for my R/W/G humans deck I'd appreciate it. This is my preliminary thinking.

Creatures
4x Champion of lambholt
4x Champion of the parish
4x Lightning Mauler
4x Silverblade paladin
2x Zealous Conscripts
4x Goldnight Commander (Still not sure how I like him, feels like he's too late to be useful but not sure...)

Spells
4x Shock
1x Thunderous Wrath
1x Bonfire of the Damned (Maybe have 2 and 0 thunderous wrath?)
4x Thatcher Revolt

Lands
4x Cavern of Souls
4x Clifftop Retreat
4x Copperline Gorge
4x Razorverge thicket
5x Plains
3x Mountains
1x Forests

That's at 57 cards... I'm not sure about the mana since most are cheap but I have to up that and I'm not sure if I want any evolving wilds or not. I haven't sleeved it all up so I'm not sure the mana ratio yet.

Okay, well, fill those spaces with Cloudshift. So many awesome shenanigans with souldbound and Champion that open up with flicker, not to mention dodging removal. Any white deck in Standard that isn't running Cloudshift it is strictly weaker.

I agree with Commander, by the way. I have Zealous Conscripts in that slot, personally, but I'm not sold 100 percent on it either
 
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