Commando is pure 80's cheese. Its not a very good flick, both in general and as an action movie, but its fun.
is Terminator 2 the greatest action movie of all time?
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Commando is pure 80's cheese. Its not a very good flick, both in general and as an action movie, but its fun.
Little Green Yoda
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You know what needs at least an honorable mention?
Raptomex
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Cobra still loses to Commando.
That's because the Fifth Element sucks as an action movie.
Terminator 2 the best action movie ever?
Hell no! And to anybody else calling me crazy, I watch the movie plenty of times back in the day when it came out on VHS and own it on Blu-ray so back the fuck off. It was a great movie, no doubt, the best. Nope. Now, if you want the best action movie, Hard Boiled. And to the people mentioning this movie in this thread, you're all my new brothers and sisters in my family now. If anybody disagrees with Hard Boiled not being the best action movie of all time and hasn't even watched it. You can fuckoff and go beat off to Michael Bay as far as I give a shit. Come back to me when you see these movies from my list and tell me Terminator 2 is better than all of them.
1. Hard Boiled
2. The Good, The Bad, and The Weird (This movie would of been my original no.1 choice but I have to give props to Hard Boiled when its due.)
3. The Killer
4. The Raid
5. Ip Man
Hell no! And to anybody else calling me crazy, I watch the movie plenty of times back in the day when it came out on VHS and own it on Blu-ray so back the fuck off. It was a great movie, no doubt, the best. Nope. Now, if you want the best action movie, Hard Boiled. And to the people mentioning this movie in this thread, you're all my new brothers and sisters in my family now. If anybody disagrees with Hard Boiled not being the best action movie of all time and hasn't even watched it. You can fuckoff and go beat off to Michael Bay as far as I give a shit. Come back to me when you see these movies from my list and tell me Terminator 2 is better than all of them.
1. Hard Boiled
2. The Good, The Bad, and The Weird (This movie would of been my original no.1 choice but I have to give props to Hard Boiled when its due.)
3. The Killer
4. The Raid
5. Ip Man
zerodayPopbot
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No mention of Speed yet?
It's a good action film I think.
Oh on the first page...still it's good I think.
It's a good action film I think.
Oh on the first page...still it's good I think.
Glass Rebel
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You know what needs at least an honorable mention?
Such a stupidly awesome movie. I miss old Snipes
Macready1306
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I think The Terminator is a better film than T2, but T2 is a better action film.
It's hard for me to separate Aliens, T2, Die Hard, Predator, Lethal Weapon and Speed. All vary in terms of greatness as films, but in terms of action they're pretty damn special. Special mention must go to Lethal Weapon 2 and Die Hard 2 for keeping up with (and sometimes upping the originals) in terms of action scenes.
It's hard for me to separate Aliens, T2, Die Hard, Predator, Lethal Weapon and Speed. All vary in terms of greatness as films, but in terms of action they're pretty damn special. Special mention must go to Lethal Weapon 2 and Die Hard 2 for keeping up with (and sometimes upping the originals) in terms of action scenes.
Something Wicked
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It's Die Hard, as it was on A&E tonight and it's still fucking kick-ass
Alex Connolly
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My picks. Fantastic tension, great characters, fine scores.
TUROK
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I respect your opinion, as well as your list (which is very good), but your attitude can go fuck itself with a curling iron.
Magic Mushroom
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Terminator 2 the best action movie ever?
Hell no! And to anybody else calling me crazy, I watch the movie plenty of times back in the day when it came out on VHS and own it on Blu-ray so back the fuck off. It was a great movie, no doubt, the best. Nope. Now, if you want the best action movie, Hard Boiled. And to the people mentioning this movie in this thread, you're all my new brothers and sisters in my family now. If anybody disagrees with Hard Boiled not being the best action movie of all time and hasn't even watched it. You can fuckoff and go beat off to Michael Bay as far as I give a shit. Come back to me when you see these movies from my list and tell me Terminator 2 is better than all of them.
1. Hard Boiled
2. The Good, The Bad, and The Weird (This movie would of been my original no.1 choice but I have to give props to Hard Boiled when its due.)
3. The Killer
4. The Raid
5. Ip Man
This guys knows what's up. The action scenes in movies like Hard Boiled, The Killer and The Raid are so much better than the stuff Hollywood churns out. Long takes, little CGI, inventive shots, amazing chorepgraphy, stuntmen taking blows the hard way. It's the real deal.
Discotheque
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Yeah. I'm with him on Hard Boiled/The Killer. But that's just...dumb.
Oh and I was first to mention Lethal Weapon, RoboCop and Hard Boiled
inb4OhGoooodForYou
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Must admit that I haven't seen that one. Don't get me wrong, I love lots of Hollywood action movies, but Asia is tops when it comes to the type of bone-crunching action, death defying stunts and amazing fight choreography that I dig. Watching The Raid in a packed cinema was so, so good.
Winnie the Pimp
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As far as i am concerned, yes!
No other movie can even touch it in terms of pacing and raw action, perfect indeed...
No other movie can even touch it in terms of pacing and raw action, perfect indeed...
SCULLIBUNDO
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Laughing Banana
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No.
Too many plot holes.
"But the story is not important for an action movie!"
Yes it is. Especially if the movie is contending for the title of "greatest of all time."
Too many plot holes.
"But the story is not important for an action movie!"
Yes it is. Especially if the movie is contending for the title of "greatest of all time."
SCULLIBUNDO
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Alright, asshole. Let's do this. Where are the plot holes in T2?
TUROK
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You just quoted something that has not been said.
Ignoring that, plot holes are an unavoidable part of time travel movies, as time travel is fucked in the face.
Laughing Banana
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The bolded above combined with your avatar made me laugh, hahaha.
Well, for instance, a pretty major one: the fact that Arnie burned itself in molten metal pit in order to erase all existence of the terminator technology yet for some reason conveniently forgot about its detached arm stuck in the revolving gear.
Not to mention the whole time-travel paradox "the hero sending a warrior back to safeguard a woman who in turn conceived a baby with the warrior who in turn to be the hero who send the warrior back in the first place."
Hey, if its any consolation, I didn't say the movie itself was not entertaining though!
Well, it's a common rhetoric used by many movie fans around the world to defend against criticism towards action movies.
These aren't plot holes. Oo
SCULLIBUNDO
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The arm thing isn't a plot hole. Do you know what a plot hole is?
The time travel 'paradox' isn't a plothole considering T1 and T2 illustrate that time is cyclical in the Terminator universe.
Officerrob
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This. I love Heat, but it's far from an action movie
NullPointer
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The very best part of the whole Terminator paradox was that in the first movie the only way that killing machine knew that its victim was the true Sarah Connor was from examining her leg for shrapnel. That wound comes about by the explosion of the terminator at the end of the movie. So Ahnoldbot would have never stopped killing Sarah Connors.
Yep.
Officerrob
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GAF is currently on it's second "My little Pony" thread and it has almost four thousand posts, sometimes GAF has it's head up it's ass. Heat is fantastic
Net_Wrecker
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The Good, The Bad, The Weird has great stunts, excellent camera work, and the last chase is amazing. I love Aliens, Terminator 1/2, and Die Hard as much as the next person, but I wouldn't have any issues with someone putting TWTBTW in their top 5. It's one of the most fun "first watches" I've ever seen in my life.
ignore the avatar, the movie's great without my bias
The fact that people are calling HEAT an action movie, AND calling the movie crap is hurting my head. It's a crime drama with a top 3 shootout scene in history, but it's no action movie.
PhoncipleBone
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What a coincidence. Almost all of the Hollywood stuff being mentioned over and over in this thread (Die Hard, Lethal Weapon, Aliens, Terminator 2) is exactly the same way!
Fallout-NL
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I fucking love Die Hard. And T2 is a little rough around the edges sometimes (Furlong makes me cringe a bit sometimes). So I see where you're coming from.
But when T2 is good, it's really fucking good. Also, the stakes are higher. This isn't some office building. It's the fate of mankind. I love how incredibly bleak it is.
Also:
Everyone in this thread needs to take a good look at T2. I mean, actually take some time to really look at it. There is little else that looks as good as T2. It is gorgeous, a work of art. I'd say the one thing that looks better is Ridley Scott's Alien.
At least go for Bad Boys 1 then. Much, much better film.
Nah. Bad Boys II car chase is one of the best car chases OF ALL TIME. It made that mega-hype car chase from Martix 2 look like Keystone Cops. The car chase alone makes me wanna whoop at the screen.
Fallout-NL
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Too over the top and ridiculous. Though if that's what gets you going, I understand why you prefer 2.
BB1 though... That's what I'd call genuinely great. The chemistry between Smith and Lawrence is perfect in that film. It's restraint (which is good), furthermore, is illustrated by the stylish 964 Porsche that features in the chase at the end.
BB1 though... That's what I'd call genuinely great. The chemistry between Smith and Lawrence is perfect in that film. It's restraint (which is good), furthermore, is illustrated by the stylish 964 Porsche that features in the chase at the end.
PhoncipleBone
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And they are not as big assholes as they are in Bad Boys 2.
Fallout-NL
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Betta Lines
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Correct.
And that's why it's great. Over-the-top bombast is the least I ask of an action movie. Anything else is a bonus.
MarkMclovin
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Well if it is, I'm sure The Raid will top it soon.
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