sorijealut
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AH: Yeah guys, don't linger too long on a deal that just feels right. Also, learn to search by maximum bid!!
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I'm worried about groups of people having complete control over the AH's...that's all.
Guess I just played around with it enough and figured it out
.echoshifting
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There's nothing wrong with your strategy of course, but the fact that this seems to be the consensus best way to upgrade your gear and the other side of the coin, that loot drops are disappointing on the whole... very disconcerting stuff.
It's two-fold. One, the AH lets you find loot that fits your stats without having to deal with the RNG. The other, and larger problem, is that you can use Nightmare loot in Normal (and Hell in Nightmare and so-on). They just get better affixes on better base items. The level requirements for the drops overlap player level in lower difficulties so you can buy items that you just can't actually get into your current difficulty.
Really surprised there isn't a "X Difficulty Required" tied to things, to be honest. There's a minimum level requirement for the difficulties so not sure why things are stricter enforced for the equipment.
Cause I think they are just that.
echoshifting
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MrPing1000
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So, anyone wanna trade? EU Softcore, looking for Barb/Sorc gear.
By the beard of Zeus!
I had some nice str/vit boots I auctioned off yesterday
Macmanus
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I agree with you.
I think I'm one of the rare people here that started with the original Diablo, and there wasn't really any of this unique shit. I then went on to D2 launch day - and same story.
I hate how everyone wants homogenized gear. I love that blues outdamage uniques. Good. That's awesome. It will create a robust and interesting economy - but gamers are too whiney and spoiled to accept that there isn't a cookie cutter formula to follow.
I will admit that I miss low to mid level set items dropping. A lvl 8 pally looked quite fetching in Sigons.
I do wonder if there's anything to be done now to fix things. I mean, technically speaking, they can do grand sweeping changes right before the RMAH launches. I really hope that's the cause of the delay, honestly. Give Legendary/Set items value now leading into the RMAH; adjusting after the fact is an awful, awful, awful idea.
I don't think anyone minds that Blues/Rares have the potential to be better than Uniques. It's that Uniques and Sets are always shitty and their rarity doesn't match their potential. There's literally no reason to ever think of using a Unique/Set.
Nobody wants gear at the cap to be 7 slots of Unique/Set equipment because they're the best option. People want them to be a viable alternative because they do something. As it stands right now, they're essentially the worst thing to equip in any slot for that given level requirement.
They are opinions with merrit. Sorry to say, but the itemization is D3 is just not up to snuff. While gameplay is key, the items are what kept you going in D2's end game. Furthermore, I believe valuable and somewhat consistent uniques are required to stabilize the economy. As it stands, uniques are neither exciting, particularly valuable, nor consistent, and therefore fail to accomplish what they should within the context of a loot driven game.
So, anyone wanna trade? EU Softcore, looking for Barb/Sorc gear.
Damn, why can my game not drop something nice like that?
How would such uniques stabilize the economy?
sorijealut
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That's the only thing for me - there is less personalization for us. We are all yellowish blue blobs. (but on thr other hand, in d2 most of upper 25% were wearing uniques and runewords)
I don't see how they can correct this now, when I searched on the AH after hitting NM I was finding 35 pages for a single item multiple times. There is enough gear out there to last a year.
I'm curious what they thought would happen when nothing is Boe?
Does anyone else feel that the Normal playthrough was a complete waste of time? I am a fairly casual gamer, but I feel like the loot and the challenge was below what it should have been.
In Diablo 1, I didn't have to beat the game 3 times to see an over the top Champion mob that I should avoid, and I remember getting some sweet items even on my first play through. Only now, in Act 2 on Nightmare, does it feel like it should. Some deadly creatures, some worth while loot, and some real challenges.
I wish the game reached this point earlier, it really sucks to start a new character and drag them through all the crap.
In Diablo 1, I didn't have to beat the game 3 times to see an over the top Champion mob that I should avoid, and I remember getting some sweet items even on my first play through. Only now, in Act 2 on Nightmare, does it feel like it should. Some deadly creatures, some worth while loot, and some real challenges.
I wish the game reached this point earlier, it really sucks to start a new character and drag them through all the crap.
Yup and the best legendary sword in the game is 700 some DPS. Hence why legendary items are worthless.
This is completely nonsensical
MentalNoiz
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Word or warning. There is some kind of bullshit going on out there with hackers. My level 56 Monk has disappeared from my list of characters as well as my friends list.
I noticed while playing my abilities got shuffled around without me doing so. I thought, oh what a weird bug. So I reload the game and my character is gone.
All that FUGGIN work. I sure hope Blizzard can restore my character ...
I noticed while playing my abilities got shuffled around without me doing so. I thought, oh what a weird bug. So I reload the game and my character is gone.
All that FUGGIN work. I sure hope Blizzard can restore my character ...
Lasthope106
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Is there any site to learn how to play this game? I just don't know which stats are good, or how to even determine those things. The only thing I'm doing right now is leveling up.
Rarer should mean potentially better, however. That's how the system works. Magic has the fewest affixes but are the most common, Rares have more affixes but are less common, Legendaries have set stats and around the same affixes as a Magic, and something for Sets I'm not entirely sure of yet. These all pull from the same pool of affixes so it's all about item potential and the amount of stats they can have.
Except Legendaries have the issue of having set stats that you can't double-up on. So they're by design always going to be the worst option for a slot. At best, they serve as a baseline for what kind of DPS or +Stats or whatever you want on a good Magical/Rare item but not something you'd actually use.
echoshifting
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Honestly, I don't think the RMAH is a good reason to put up with itemization woes. Eventually they are going to add new items to the game and the items people have paid real money for will need to be replaced. That's just the nature of games like this. I don't think it's relevant if this comes in the form of a new tier of content or rebalancing of current content.
Frankly, the only way they can justify a RMAH is by ignoring its existence when it comes to balancing and designing the game. If it has such a major impact on the game that Blizzard can't make needed changes then it really should not be there. I understand that it's debatable whether or not such sweeping changes are really needed, but at some point they are going to have to make a change which makes items people have paid for less valuable. There's no way they can continue to develop and expand the game without that happening eventually.
Check your character info screen by pressing the "I" keyboard button. Check each main stat and it will give you a quick description for each one. What class are you rolling?
In Diablo 1, there were plenty of Unique or Legendary weapons that were common and kicked ass.
The Arkaine's Valor armor and the Butcher's Cleaver come to mind. The point is that it felt pretty freaking sweet to rock those items, even if they got out leveled quickly. Not to mention they were tied to some of the most memorable quests in the game.
nicoga3000
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Turning on Advanced Tooltips and Elective Mode are the first things you should do. Truth be told, the game really does spoon feed you information on your character. Hovering over any stat on your character screen tells you everything you need to know about what it does.
DJ Lushious
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Fair enough. I just find the issues to be so intertwined that the complaints are justified. That's just me, though.
Holy hell. That's even worse than I thought- I mean, this must be considered "broken" by any reasonable metric, right? That is, sure, in D2 you could have a friend pop into your game and drop you an item from a higher difficulty that you could use before you were technically supposed to, but they would have had to legitimately acquire that item somehow beforehand (discounting hacks of course). Knowing that person and having them be willing to part with the item were the requirements for getting loot that was too good for your difficulty. But now essentially gold is the only limiting factor from level 1?
I appreciate the reply. I might just abstain from this first iteration of the AH despite the temptation.
Macmanus
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Their weren't. The Butchers Clever was awful and Arkaine's Valor was a side based quest item that everyone had. You're misremembering Diablo 1.
echoshifting
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There should be some differentiation between types of gear. An example:
-Give blue items the ability to surpass other types of gear in a specific stat at the expense of additional modifiers
-Give yellow items the ability to have best in slot, but make it much less likely that optimal attributes will pop up on any given piece of gear
-Give legendaries solid attributes which can compete with average rares, and give them special unique (worthwhile) modifiers which can only be found on specific pieces of legendary gear
-Give set items similar attributes to legendaries, but require multiple pieces equipped to earn their special unique modifiers. Maybe slightly worse stats but slightly better unique attributes
So now I have some interesting choices. If I need a ton of +VIT, I should look for a blue piece. If I want a fun RNG mechanic and a solid piece of gear, I go legendary or set. If I want "best in slot" without any of those special modifiers, I pick a rare piece.
As it stands, there are no meaningful differences between items. That is the problem. I don't see many people here asking that legendary items become the best choice in all situations. I see people asking for interesting choices and compelling gear to aim for.
And, again, nobody is saying they have to be the best. They just need to be rebalanced to be in the running. If you get a Legendary right now, it has a 0% chance to be better than your current of-Level equipment unless you're undergeared just due to how they're designed.
All people want is for the set stats on them to be improved to at least be comparable to the same mods that a Magical/Rare gets or allow them to double-up partially. And I have to say partially since +40% Damage as a set stat with a +50% on top would be ridiculous; just let it have +30%-+50% instead of topping out at 40%, for instance. Or, if limiting it to 40% is the idea, at least let it do something neat so you can go "Well, less damage but at least X."
Right now, that "at least X" is "at least the item color is cool/different."
Not what I mean. As I understand it, the level limit of the weapon is irrelevant to the difficulty the weapon was acquired on if you meet the requirement, and there's nothing stopping you from using the AH as soon as you have the gold to get the weapon you want. Please correct me if I've misunderstood, literally the only exposure to how the AH works is following the last couple pages.
Problem is a big word for this. I don't really care what is what, as long as I can equip some new kick ass shit that improves my stats.
Yeah that's how shops work, you got the cash and the right level, you buy shit you want
Yeah that's how shops work, you got the cash and the right level, you buy shit you want
how much damage does your bow do?
Well, I mean, the drop still needs to happen somewhere but with something like everyone playing, chances are the drop you want will exist somewhere. The AH is busted now just because pricing is all over the place so you can get items cheaper than you "should." And then the aforementioned higher difficulty loot having lower level requirements than you'd think (NM loot starts around 24? Hell is 47 and Inferno is 57).
Pretty much the same with you, I'd just like to see a Legendary drop and get my hopes up that it's good just like with any other drop. Currently, I only get my hopes up that someone will buy it horribly overpriced in the AH :x
Edit: Bah, should've checked to see if someone posted to avoid the dp :x
Sure, but without having checked, doesn't the law of large numbers essentially guarantee someone is selling what you're looking for if you can search? The difference is that you don't have to have any connection to or even encounter the player selling the item in-game. I don't oppose the concept in principal of course, just the potential for abuse.
Well those two things combined definitely evoke "busted."
Lasthope106
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A monk, currently at level 16.
I'll do that later today. But I'm still confused at what makes a good build. It seems you just try stuff, but there is so much stuff to try.
I'm not sure how "underpowered" they are, but if they are truly that worthless I doubt they are the best ones that are there in the game.
Unless this shit has been datamined in which case I don't think it's relevant since blizz can add new gear with the push of the button, and maybe they don't want people to have it yet.
I think that in the end Blizz will add Legendary stuff that is truly legendary, but thinking this will be found in WEEK 1 is a bit silly no...?
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