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Came back from seeing this 1½ hours ago, it was good-ish.

my main complaint was the rushed last 15-20 minutes, too much and too fast.

it kinda took me out of the movie because you expect the movie you've been watching for the last hour and a half, but then the rest just blows in your face and seems out of place...ehh, i don't really know how to say this better.
also, the look of the engineers made me cringe a bit, something about that face looked silly, dunno how much of it was CGI, but especially in the head exploding scene it wasn't impressive
 
Old humans could not have known these stars and planets unless the Engineers told them. Why did the Engineers tell them where they built their WMD facilities? Why did they even have them there in the first place, I thought they still liked humans? Originally I thought, maybe their home planet is in the same constellation, but that can't be right because Shaw and David definitely aren't flying to just a neighbouring planet in the ending.

They talk about "To create live you might need to destroy it first" (or whatever). I think it just means that there was a different organic life before the humans and they figured there was something on that planet before they were killed by the engineers.

I really don't have a clue tbh =[
 
Got me there. Just a bit of a lazy way of getting them there I think. I suppose it could be argued that they kept in contact at first with early civilisations and lorded over them. I don't think they meant to destroy humans, I'd assume something went wrong. An Alien base under the Earth's surface or something?


That did make sense to me. You don't let the rats run free, you always exert a level of control in your experiment. Power has always been the easiest way to control a mass amount of people. And from the paintings we can deduce that mankind worshiped the Engineers as gods. My theory is that we were their live-stock. Created in their image(except much smaller,weaker). It is far more likely that we would experiment on a sub-human species that we created then on ourselves. The parallel was already made in that humans have the same level of respect for their creations(andriods) as the Engineers do for us which is none. As for why they were gonna exterminate us. Perhaps we had outlived our usefulness or maybe that's the method they always use. It could also be that the story of Prometheus is what happend. The movie/ship is called that, Weyland mentions the story twice, in the marketing ad and in the movie. The early leaked scripts had a human steal tech from the Engineers and thus the punished us with Aliens or something like that. In the movie what i found strange was how Shaw was fixated on finding out what we had done wrong to make them want to kill us all thus i do think humans might have done something in the past to make them turn on us.
This movie definitely needs a sequel, i love it, it's by far my favorite movie of the year.
 
Saw Dark Night, Iron Man, and Avatar there. It was a fantastic experience. Plus, the room always has a great pumped-up audience.

Yup. I watched BB, 300, I Am Legend, TDK, Inception, and MI4 there.

Even if the movie isn't shot with IMAX cameras, the sound alone is worth it.
 
Just saw Prometheus and I thought it was great. The overall design of things like the suits and the ship are just amazing, the production value is top-notch. In the story you might just get more questions then answers and it uses some typical sci-fi cliche's, but it really doesn't matter. The performances are fine, especially Rapace, and yes, Fassbender are amazing. 8/10

Random notes:
- Charlize Theron; Dat ass.
- The music was great, very atmospheric.
- Best use of 3D since Avatar (granted, I haven't seen much movies in 3D)

Go see this people.
 
The Engineers are no CG, it's all make up and it looks incredible (
the Sacrifice Engineer (that's his name, ie call sheet) is all make up as well, the actor was wearing 60 pounds of make up, and it took 8 hours to get off.
)

FYI, the budget for the movie is of only 120-130 million.
 
That did make sense to me. You don't let the rats run free, you always exert a level of control in your experiment. Power has always been the easiest way to control a mass amount of people. And from the paintings we can deduce that mankind worshiped the Engineers as gods. My theory is that we were their live-stock. Created in their image(except much smaller,weaker). It is far more likely that we would experiment on a sub-human species that we created then on ourselves. The parallel was already made in that humans have the same level of respect for their creations(andriods) as the Engineers do for us which is none. As for why they were gonna exterminate us. Perhaps we had outlived our usefulness or maybe that's the method they always use. It could also be that the story of Prometheus is what happend. The movie/ship is called that, Weyland mentions the story twice, in the marketing ad and in the movie. The early leaked scripts had a human steal tech from the Engineers and thus the punished us with Aliens or something like that. In the movie what i found strange was how Shaw was fixated on finding out what we had done wrong to make them want to kill us all thus i do think humans might have done something in the past to make them turn on us.
This movie definitely needs a sequel, i love it, it's by far my favorite movie of the year.

Interesting as well, I said that in my original thoughts, compared it to mice and animal testing. I would like to see one of the writers do a video that clears everything up
I don't mean to sound too negative about the film, I really enjoyed it. It overcomes all it's flaws for the most part
 
This film is so close to incredible. Well worth a big screen venture. Without spoiling anything I really hope there's a Director's Cut home release. Great movie.

This thread is awash with black bars ha, time to check out what I've missed.
 
This film is so close to incredible. Well worth a big screen venture. Without spoiling anything I really hope there's a Director's Cut home release. Great movie.

I would be intrigued to know whether a DC can improve it.

In fact I think I'm going to say 3.5/4 as my personal rating. For all it's flaws, it done so much right. I was really entertained.
 
I would be intrigued to know whether a DC can improve it.

In fact I think I'm going to say 3.5/4 as my personal rating. For all it's flaws, it done so much right. I was really entertained.
Oh, I was entertained alright. I'm just trying to piece everything together. If you'll excuse me, I'll repost my questions from the bottom of the last page:
So, the Engineers came to Earth, created humans (which may or may not be depicted in the opening scene), and then fucked off to LV-223 to create/farm/store a shitload of lethal alien goo that they plan on using to kill us (for reasons that aren't made apparent in this movie). And they did this by burying their ships under ground, where they were all killed by their own alien goo? Am I missing something?

Why wasn't the film set on LV-426 so that the Engineer pilot/mysterious pilot from the first film tied in properly? Instead I'm left wondering how an Alien (Xenomorph, the first of which appears at the end of this film, on this planet) can burst from the stomach of an Engineer over on LV-426, as depicted in the first film. Although I did mark out when the pilot chair came out the floor.

Again, if the origins of the Aliens was a giant, human born face hugger raping an Engineer, how was there an image of one on the wall in the goo containment chamber?
 
I would be intrigued to know whether a DC can improve it.

In fact I think I'm going to say 3.5/4 as my personal rating. For all it's flaws, it done so much right. I was really entertained.

Yeh it's not so much improvement, but I'm looking forward to seeing what might change if one does come out.

I support that score, it looked amazing, the writing is brisk and mostly unintrusive, music is pompous like it should be, the effects are some of the best I've seen recently and Fassbender makes it his show. It does a lot more right than it does wrong.
 
Fuck I wanna see this so bad but I dont wanna go on my own and my shitty friends dont want to go tonight damnit
 
Fuck I wanna see this so bad but I dont wanna go on my own and my shitty friends dont want to go tonight damnit

My friends are all working today but I had a day off and treated myself. Cinema alone has a certain magic about it too. I'm going to watch it with my mates again next weekend.
 
I guess I could go and watch it on my own.. stoned as hell :p

I saw Harry Potter 4 or something on my own in theaters too.. that wasnt too bad at all.
 
I guess I could go and watch it on my own.. stoned as hell :p

I saw Harry Potter 4 or something on my own in theaters too.. that wasnt too bad at all.
I'm sure that's how Ridley Scott intended it. Perhaps all the people giving it mediocre reviews just need to be stoned while watching.
 
I only go to the theater by myself, I hate going with other people constantly talking and bullshitting. Every time I've went with other people they ask you questions during the middle of it and can't seem to wait until it's finished.
 
Just placed a reservation.. i hope it rocks my socks off! And i hope the other ppl arent annoying.. tickets are 12 euros..ridiculous.
 
So I just got back.

While I thought it was a good film there are two things I will say before black bars everywhere.
The film felt a little disjointed at times like there was supposed to be more but they either scrapped some scenes or the writing just left holes for some reason, and that it isn't scary or horrifying or anything, I had to go with my mum to see it as my girlfriend was worried it would be too scary for her in the cinema, and it really wasn't.

Anyway.

So to start, did anyone else feel like the people in this film just didn't react to what was going on around them very well, for the last part of the film no one seemed to notice that there was an alien growing in one of the rooms or that whole ordeal happened, that a guy that was supposed to be dead was now walking around with them, that people were dying and that people who were supposed to be dead were coming back as a strange mutant thing, and yet there were barely any reactions to any of it as if the film was longer and they cut out minutes of these people reacting to anything that was going on around them.

From reading this topic, this wasn't the planet that is in Alien right?
Which brings me to then what was the point, a lot of people going into this would have seen the previous Alien films and while enjoy them aren't really into the universe.
So setting this film as a light prequel to the first but throwing all this imagery that it is the same place seems like a really odd choice to me, I honestly had no idea this wasn't the same planet till I came here and read other peoples opinions on it to find out why the Engineer wasn't left in the same state as he was found in the first film.

This film left me with far far more questions than answers it gave, so I get that the Engineer at the start "sacrificed" himself and as such created us, now was this a sacrifice or a punishment, did they mean to create us and know this would happen because this black goo seen through the film seems to do all sorts of different things.
And again, why did they want to kill us, it was a big point through the last half of the film and isn't answered so I really hope this is the set up for a sequel that delves into the lore behind them more because it sure didn't give anything away.

I also thought the Engineer being revived was a little lame, for what could have been a monumental part of the film series universe as they gave us some answers they decided to go with lets just kill everyone, 30 seconds would have done me, a little insight to them as a race or their motives, but not a thing.

The black goo was a strange oddity in this film, they walk into the room that was full of the containers, which is obviously meant to be reminiscent of that scene in Alien with the eggs, but it really isn't explored any further than that. Walls that change, the containers opening, the Engineers running into the room but there being seemingly nothing left in there and then a bunch were found in a completely different place all piled up together.


And finally for now some story elements, they tried to really make it obvious that Weyland was on the ship, I'm not sure why, but then I'm not even sure why he was in any of this film past his initial introduction to begin with as it just ended up being filler that could have been taken up by something far more interesting, and that is ignoring the Father/Daughter thing going on that was a bit silly.

That is it for now, I only had 4 hours sleep this morning so I apologise if I say some silly things regarding the film or missed some obvious points, but there we go, lol.
 
I would be intrigued to know whether a DC can improve it.

In fact I think I'm going to say 3.5/4 as my personal rating. For all its flaws, it has done so much right. I was really entertained.

After letting things sink in for a day, this is still basically my conclusion as well. There are some glaring flaws, characterization being the main offender, but it's entertaining and intriguing and begs for a second viewing. DC would be awesome.

What I found really weird was how [big story spoiler]
Elba and the co-pilots were suddenly ok with crashing Prometheus against the ship and sacrificing their lives. Ok, they had no time to think about it, but there was zero tension or weight to this moment. It didn't help that the co-pilots were undeveloped characters you couldn't care less about. This was by far the weakest moment of the movie for me. Also, Elba as a comic relief character didn't work.
 
[big story spoiler]
Elba and the co-pilots were suddenly ok with crashing Prometheus against the ship and sacrificing their lives. Ok, they had no time to think about it, but there was zero tension or weight to this moment. It didn't help that the co-pilots were undeveloped characters you couldn't care less about. This was by far the weakest moment of the movie for me. Also, Elba as a comic relief character didn't work.

Yeh, the 'are you a robot' scene was pretty cringeworthy but it wasn't offensively long, and it got a good laugh out of the people around me. I have a feeling the captain knew all along that this was a suicide mission, and seemed to just take things in their stride all the time. That whole kamikaze scene felt really rushed though.
 
After letting things sink in for a day, this is still basically my conclusion as well. There are some glaring flaws, characterization being the main offender, but it's entertaining and intriguing and begs for a second viewing. DC would be awesome.

What I found really weird was how [big story spoiler]
Elba and the co-pilots were suddenly ok with crashing Prometheus against the ship and sacrificing their lives. Ok, they had no time to think about it, but there was zero tension or weight to this moment. It didn't help that the co-pilots were undeveloped characters you couldn't care less about. This was by far the weakest moment of the movie for me. Also, Elba as a comic relief character didn't work.

I think
when he works out that the place is essentially a military base and he says he is making sure that they don't get back on the ship or to Earth, he'll do anything to stop that. You know that's what type he is. I didn't like the two co-pilots at all. I don't necessarily agree with the criticism that there's 17/18 people and because you only get to know 3 or 4 it's pointless. I think it's fine to have that many but keep them as voiceless entities. It irked me having the script try to give these two some sort of character development with 'witty' banter; should have just had them help out Elba with flying but fuck the speech.

I thought Elba was fantastic in it actually, he's just got a natural charisma to him. I thought he was a sardonic enough character to work well but I didn't like that Theron actually said 'my office'. It was out of character for her rather than him, but I think he did well enough with the character. Just wish the ships crashing had been left out of trailers.
 
Yeh, the 'are you a robot' scene was pretty cringeworthy but it wasn't offensively long, and it got a good laugh out of the people around me. I have a feeling the captain knew all along that this was a suicide mission, and seemed to just take things in their stride all the time. That whole kamikaze scene felt really rushed though.


To conincide with this, that section where Shaw and the captain had a moment, felt so out of place and pointless. It was trying so hard to hark back to the "not to study, not to bring back" lines from Aliens. But it just didnt work at all!
 
Saw it in Imax last night. No story spoiler impressions:

- Loved, loved, LOVED it.
- Still trying to process some of the visuals. Quite a few things I just never could have imagined.
- Fantastic score, am still humming the main theme.
- Fassbender is great, but he's not the only great part.
- There are things you will not see coming. DO NOT read any spoilers.
- Some great shots of Charlize Theron's divine ass. :)
- Lots of questions still, needs a BR extended edition.
- They don't make though provoking sci-fi on this scale anymore and that's a damn shame.
-SEE IT IN IMAX.

Will be seeing this a couple times more for sure.
 
To conincide with this, that section where Shaw and the captain had a moment, felt so out of place and pointless. It was trying so hard to hark back to the "not to study, not to bring back" lines from Aliens. But it just didnt work at all!

I wish they'd focused on Shaw's religious faith a little more. It has a lot of grand ideas that are put out there at basic level, one or two lines - her faith, 'who made our creators', David comparing humans/android to engineers/humans, as well as things like whether the aliens are organic or engineered themselves - but doesn't allow itself enough time to do it.
 
Are we supposed to believe that (giant ending spoiler)
the queen Alien born at the end of the film is the "first" Xenomorph?
 
Are we supposed to believe that (giant ending spoiler)
the queen Alien born at the end of the film is the "first" Xenomorph?

I don't know.
I don't get why there would then be one on the mural. And whether it's an engineered creature or organic. Questions.
 
Are we supposed to believe that (giant ending spoiler)
the queen Alien born at the end of the film is the "first" Xenomorph?

It seems so, at least the Xenomorph we know, to get to this point a male human was infected that impregnated a female human, the creature from that then had to impregnate an Engineer to finally form an "Alien" that is in the rest of the series.
So yea, I guess this would be first one, but that also opens a whole bunch of questions, lol..
 

Why is there one on the mural then?

Unrelated to that but
I wish the stuff with Shaw as a kid was cut as well, Wilson couldn't keep up his accent for shit and the kid was a bad actress. Seemed completely superfluous, having David watch her dreams and mention it anyway would have been just as effective without that scene.
 
Just saw it.

Holy fucking shitballs it was good.

Don't think I've ever been so tense during a movie.

Can't wait to see it again, I'll probably see it 1-2 times more in cinemas.
 
My plan is to do the same thing I did for Avengers....Drink half a weed pop, eat 3 pieces of weed choclate, get there 45 minutes early and then go deeeeeeeeeeeeep
 
Good point. Maybe it was another species or a less mutated variant?

It looked very similar to it. I have a feeling there's going to be more on the Engineer's home planet. It would be odd if they worshipped them as gods because as Shaw says, something has to have made the Engineers and it only makes sense it's something resembling humanoid
 
It looked very similar to it. I have a feeling there's going to be more on the Engineer's home planet. It would be odd if they worshipped them as gods because as Shaw says, something has to have made the Engineers and it only makes sense it's something resembling humanoid

Wasn't the xenomorph dna being used by the engineers as a form of biological weapon? Perhaps they didn't worship them as gods but saw them as a tool to make them gods, the aliens were the fire Prometheus stole from the Gods of Olympus. I dunno. There really are too many damn questions.
 
Just got back. It was pretty good. Looked spectacular, some great set pieces. Lots of horns.

Characters are mostly blah, dialogue is flat and just bad in places. Don't really care about most of them and their motivations are really unclear.

Suffers from modern blockbuster cinema's inability to keep a story simple and tell it well. All got a bit muddled.

I was hyped beyond hype though, so factor that in.
 
Wasn't the xenomorph dna being used by the engineers as a form of biological weapon? Perhaps they didn't worship them as gods but saw them as a tool to make them gods, the aliens were the fire Prometheus stole from the Gods. I dunno. There really are too many damn questions.

This is a big question for me:
were the aliens/xenos/facehuggers bio-organic weapons themselves, or was the black goo the catalyst? I assume the worms in the black goo turned into the eel things that killed Millburn, and obviously the black goo turned Fifield. But if the goo was the thing that infected Holloway, is that a natural weapon or something the Engineers... engineered?

It might be that they want to destroy Earth by using them as vessels or incubators for their weapons, changing them into Xenos. But for what reason? Lots and lots of questions; I don't know how many are intentional haha
 
Saw it and here's what I think.

Despite being really excited for Scott's 3rd Sci Fi flick my expectations were in check and I came off pleasently happy with the film. First and foremost it was absolutely gorgeous, goes to show how much set design and practical affects enhances the film. Everything looked real enough, and most of the characters were great. Felt like three dimensional characters.

Now the aliens, all I have to say is, where the female aliens at!? Those humanoids were pretty sexy and muscular. Ultimately some of decisions in the film disappointed me; maybe it's just me but theme was not well handled and too straightforward, they were not handled with finesse like the themes in Alien and Blade runner. And some of the plot points went nowhere like the one with Old Weyland and when Holloway was infected.

Im also a bit upset that Xenomorph were not prominent but I should have known that this film is essentially a reboot of Alien. But still the final scene was very interested, the new Alien looked adorable with their dolphin like faces :3

This is not the landmark Sci fi flick I was expecting but it's a feast for the eyes with nice themes just not well executed. Definitely better than 99% of Sci fi released in the past decade or so.
 
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