Giant Bomb E3 2012

FStop7 said:
Since Evilore's at E3 he should seek out Pach and Alex and squash the beef. Or at least set them straight on the fact that NeoGAF isn't some sort of hive mind but a pretty diverse group of individuals with their own opinions - some of which they may not like.
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Nonsense. Pachter has to stop paying attention to what a bunch of know-nothing shitbird fanboys have to say. That's his mistake.
 
Curufinwe said:
The reason Pachter is upset is not because of fanboys, it's because he hates when he gets called out for talking nonsense.
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Pachter takes fanboy drivel to heart, which is his mistake. There's literally nothing Pachter can gain by engaging the people who attack him. If talking nonsense and making baseless predictions were a crime on GAF, we wouldn't have sales-age.
 
Pachter's showing last night was pretty good. Massive respect for the guy. He can say some batty things, but so do we all...

I hope he shows up again.
 
N'Gai's profession is part of the industry I don't like hearing about. He's like a professional focus group but the group he represents isn't the average consumer; it's the group of professional critics. It makes sense that a publisher would want to deal with someone like that but it just seems so soulless.
 
Rapstah said:
He's planning to fill the time tonight with it. Until Brad and Patrick pick up the couch with Pachter still on it and run away with it, dropping Pachter off in a boxing ring on the other side of the wall. Inside this boxing ring stands ruling owner of NeoGAF.com, Tyler Malka, weighing in at significantly less than Pachter. They then have an Allstars Battle Royale until Pachter is forced to predict exactly what Sony and Microsoft will do next generation. This beaten-out prediction is so accurate that Sony and Microsoft immediately go bankrupt as people sell of remaining stock in the companies. Shocked by this news, Samsung takes over the world, now uncontested in both the home electronics space with Sony gone and the gaming zone with only Nintendo left to resist. Everyone ends up having to work slavishly for GameSpot, the only company on Earth what wholly succumbed to full-on Samsung ads this E3.

Is this what you fucking want, Pachter?
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This would save E3, my PPV dollars are ready.
 
linko9 said:
What he said is that Nintendo pissed away all the money they made this generation, which is simply false, and it's laughable that anyone with his job could be under that misconception. Nintendo has made much more money this gen than they have lost, I believe (but I need to check this), that their losses this fiscal year don't even cancel out any of their gains from any single year this gen. And he's just so incredibly defensive about his false assertions that it's hard to take him seriously.
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THIS. SO MUCH THIS

Even the GB crew were surprised by his assertion that WiiU development sucked up that much money.
 
Jake Tower said:
Well, at least as a critic, he's in position to not sugar coat his 'reviews' for fear of publisher backlash.
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Well not really. It's not his job to really give his own review but to give the review of the average game reviewer, so I guess to be accurate he would have to calculate that into his prediction.
 
I'm not one to comment on personal weight but watching this stream it kind of hard to ignore. A few of these guys need to watch their intake.
 
remnant said:
THIS. SO MUCH THIS

Even the GB crew were surprised by his assertion that WiiU development sucked up that much money.
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But, tbf, would they be looking at financials and following that stuff even remotely as close a Pachter would be. Nintendo haven't published this year's accounts so hard to know exactly their position (I'm just looking at their 2011 ones here and trying to find quarterly results for something more up to date)
 
cjelly said:
His job is basically 'this is fucking shit, re-do all this crap and you'll get an 85'
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I wonder if he was involved in the development of SSX. Someone should have told those guys that having so many death pits would knock 5 points off the average score.
 
Listening to the podcast now, love how Patcher just keeps trolling. "I thought Rayman Legends was a DS game, I mean I saw the WiiU controller but still"
 
remnant said:
THIS. SO MUCH THIS

Even the GB crew were surprised by his assertion that WiiU development sucked up that much money.
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This is why I say he's wasting his time engaging GAFfers. When he talks about actual data, most people don't even know what he's talking about. He wasn't saying Nintendo didn't make money over that time period. What he was doing was comparing Nintendo in 2012 (or 2011) to Nintendo in 2006. In 2011, Nintendo lost money. And their cash assets (which he was talking about), as of 2011? Are just about the same as in 2006. And then using a metric he describes he says the market has little faith in Nintendo's management .
 
obonicus said:
This is why I say he's wasting his time engaging GAFfers. When he talks about actual data, most people don't even know what he's talking about. He wasn't saying Nintendo didn't make money over that time period. What he was doing was comparing Nintendo in 2012 (or 2011) to Nintendo in 2006. In 2011, Nintendo lost money. And their cash assets, as of 2011? Are just about the same as in 2006. And then using a metric he describes he says the market has little faith in Nintendo's management.
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Do you have a link for this? Sounds fascinating.
 
rezuth said:
Listening to the podcast now, love how Patcher just keeps trolling. "I thought Rayman Legends was a DS game, I mean I saw the WiiU controller but still"
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I don't think it's trolling. I think he's genuinely hurt in the butt when it comes to Nintendo.
 
Antiwhippy said:
Do you have a link for this? Sounds fascinating.
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Which part? I'm going off what Pachter said during the podcast, and the annual reports. There was a point in 2009 or 2010 when Nintendo had stupid amounts of cash. That's when media create-GAF was berating Nintendo for not pursuing 3rd parties more aggressively.

Note that I'm not saying Pachter's prediction about whether Nintendo is a good investment is correct. I'm just saying that he was quite clear about what data he was using as indicators and what sort of metric he was using to draw his conclusions, but people can verify them theirselves. Maybe it's all BS, I wouldn't know.
 
obonicus said:
This is why I say he's wasting his time engaging GAFfers. When he talks about actual data, most people don't even know what he's talking about.
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I knew what he was talking about when he said Nintendo would regret only charging $250 for the 3DS and that it would be sold out for the whole of 2011. He was talking bullshit.
 
obonicus said:
Which part? I'm going off what Pachter said during the podcast, and the annual reports. There was a point in 2009 or 2010 when Nintendo had stupid amounts of cash. That's when media create-GAF was berating Nintendo for not pursuing 3rd parties more aggressively.

Note that I'm not saying Pachter's prediction about whether Nintendo is a good investment is correct. I'm just saying that he was quite clear about what data he was using as indicators and what sort of metric he was using to draw his conclusions, but people can verify them theirselves. Maybe it's all BS, I wouldn't know.
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Mostly about financial reports.

Thanks for the link.
 
obonicus said:
This is why I say he's wasting his time engaging GAFfers. When he talks about actual data, most people don't even know what he's talking about. He wasn't saying Nintendo didn't make money over that time period. What he was doing was comparing Nintendo in 2012 (or 2011) to Nintendo in 2006. In 2011, Nintendo lost money. And their cash assets (which he was talking about), as of 2011? Are just about the same as in 2006. And then using a metric he describes he says the market has little faith in Nintendo's management .
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Didn't he say they blew all the money and said they were back to 2002 levels?
 
Curufinwe said:
I knew what he was talking about when he said Nintendo would regret only charging $250 for the 3DS and that it would be sold out for the whole of 2011. He was talking bullshit.
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Sure, Pachter's predictions are usually way off, especially when he predicts specific events happening. I don't think he takes those too seriously. It's the financial stuff I was referring to, which is what he was talking about specifically.

rezuth said:
Didn't he say they blew all the money and said they were back to 2002 levels?
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I thought he had said pre-Wii, honestly. I don't know what 2002 levels are, the link doesn't go that far. Looking at 2003, I don't think Nintendo will be below 2003 levels in 2012, though they won't be too far off, I think, going off their forecast. (But I'm not an expert.)
 
Apparently there's a bit of a campaign starting to get me on the giant bomb e3 cast and some folks have sent out tweets; I'm plenty willing, for the record ;b
 
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