Scott has said this is his directors cut. There will be cut scenes/extended scenes on the menu and there may be an extended cut to please fans but this is his definitive cut.
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Scott has said this is his directors cut. There will be cut scenes/extended scenes on the menu and there may be an extended cut to please fans but this is his definitive cut.
I don't believe that. He may not release the director's cut right away, but it will happen.
Every director always says at the time that the movie they set out to make is exactly what went to theaters. It's only afterwards when they're not promoting the theatrical run that we'll see what happens.
Yes, the visuals are indisputably the high point of this movie. My overall opinion of the movie is higher than it deserves because I saw it in IMAX.
Judging from your avatar, you probably have played Mass Effect 3. If you can survive the ending of that game, you can survive the mess of this film. AHAHAHAHAHAHA!!
It all comes back, I can't handle this.
Ash was not faulty... he did a pretty damned good job of following orders... and those orders actually made sense.
Not sure why you believe David had a programmed duty to protect. There's no indication in this universe that robots follow anything like the 3 Laws of Robotics.
Wow, I can't believe that's actually canon. Eh, I'll just act like I never heard this, just like what I do with the Star Wars Extended Universe. If it's not in the movie, it doesn't exist!
Interviews with Ridley Scott are not canon, though there's still room for that interpretation with what made it onto the screen.
Yup. I suppose that comment was supposed to be profound or something, but it was just demonstrated incredible stupidity.
indigo-cyclops
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OK, I just worry that having larger frame glasses might obstruct things. but I'll take that risk. It looks phenomenal visually.
Net_Wrecker
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Different planet, different ship, different Engineer. This is not a direct prequel to Alien.
Haven't been following this thread, but the movie is definitely worth a viewing on the big screen in 3D. It is gorgeous. Music is incredible as well. I really enjoyed it, and didn't mind the plot holes/open ended nature of it, but YMMV.
Thanks!
It's weird because everything looks like it ended the same. Even the
"stay away" emergency beacon she left
I saw it in IMAX 3D and felt the 3D didn't add anything to the movie. If it's a big surcharge, I'd see it in 2D for sure.
Agent Unknown
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Fair enough, makes total sense now. See, I read an interview once with a scientist who cited the ultra ordered placement of "right and left handed" amino acids as one reason for feeling this way. Or the precise timing of galactic laws. Both a few examples of things that could be distilled into concise lines of dialogue better than "Because I choose to believe so
I'm gonna take us on this trip."
So without spoiling anything, are Scott and Lindelof now trying to say the spiritual symbolism is supposed to be literal somehow and not just allegorical ideas for the audience to digest and think about in order to try and pad their defenses?
Anyways, starting to feel bummed now, are you saying you don't like the movie anywhere near as much as you did before because of all this?
And it's getting pretty pathetic how arguing like a child with disappointed fans on Twitter is starting to become a hallmark of Lindelof's career.
indigo-cyclops
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just noticed your post, appreciate your input. will definitely go with IMAX regardless of my worries about getting my moneys worth...
BotoxAgent
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I am sure this has been brought up, but man Holloway looks really like Tom Hardy....I almost thought it was the same guy and had to check IMDB to make sure.
No need. The trailer for the movie already does the story more justice than the theatrical release does. Let's just call that the DC and not worry about what Scott may or may not do at this point. He's done enough already.
does anybody know what hes saying here? and why release this now after the movie has released. does it hold some clues to the sequel? (doubtful).
gollumsluvslave
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In terms of what Shaw answer (I choose to believe) it was a bit of a trite response - but essentially it's Pascal's Wager she is saying - of course the writers could have at least made that clear.
"If I'm right, awesome, and If I'm wrong, nothing is lost (except for half a decade, a trillion dollars, and what may still remain of my credibility as a scientist)."
(Not that Pascal's Wager is particularly clever anyway, far from it.)
He said that he was basically happy with the current theatrical cut ("It's pretty much the director's cut"), but the home release will have an extended cut that's about 20 minutes longer, but he's not quite sure yet. There are however more deleted scenes that won't make it in the extended cut, but will be on the disc as deleted scenes.
thank you.
Of course he said he was happy with the existing cut. He's not going to tell everyone to avoid it and see his DC.
Demoncarnotaur
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The more I think about this movie, the more I like it.. It leaves a lot of big things opened and unexplained, but I have no issue with that, its the smaller things that cause the issues.
The black goop needed a little more direction with exactly how and what it caused, not every answer in complete, but it needed tightened up. Characters needed more time and development, and certain plot lines needed more attention.
Nappuccino
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Welp, seeing this in IMAX tonight because my friend can get me in for cheap. Hopefully the 3D isn't too distracting.
Demoncarnotaur
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^ I found the 3D to be fantastic, if there is one thing this movie does perfect it is the visuals.
Summary Man
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I just viewed the black goop as a weapon/catalyst that changes to accommodate its immediate situation. Lots of people in the Prometheus spoiler thread are complaining about the complexity of the alien lifeform in this movie (worm->infection->pregnancy->squid->facehugger->proto-Xeno) but I just saw the the goo as something which quickly creates these monsters without any rhyme or reason, and which changes to fit its current situation.
For example, I didn't think that the proto-Xeno was the intended final result of the goo, or that it required Holloway having sexual intercourse with Shaw, it's just what ended up happening in this specific situation. The goop was basically unpredictable, which is why I saw it as a prototype to the classic alien bioweapon found in Alien. It infects people in different ways, eventually resulting in the alien we see at the very end of the film. I saw it as a terrifying, completely unpredictable and uncontrollable threat, which is one reason why it wiped out most of the Engineers.
For example, I didn't think that the proto-Xeno was the intended final result of the goo, or that it required Holloway having sexual intercourse with Shaw, it's just what ended up happening in this specific situation. The goop was basically unpredictable, which is why I saw it as a prototype to the classic alien bioweapon found in Alien. It infects people in different ways, eventually resulting in the alien we see at the very end of the film. I saw it as a terrifying, completely unpredictable and uncontrollable threat, which is one reason why it wiped out most of the Engineers.
Maybe I'm putting in too much effort explaining the biology of the alien lifeforms in this movie, and maybe it's the fault of the writing, but that's what I thought while watching the film.
it does not live up to the hype.
I think the movie is good (not great, but good). As far as living up to the hype, it depends on what you are looking for. If you want a solid sci fi movie with some quirkiness and a couple Alien hooks, this is that movie. If you want a prequel to Alien that tells you everything you'll be disappointed. You leave the movie with probably move questions than answers. As long as a sequel is made this is ok for now.
thanks, I expected this. I don't think I'll watch this. Old Ridley is old.
Summary Man
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I enjoyed it. But then again, I wasn't following the pre-release hype and latching onto each and every interview with the director/cast/and writers, so I didnt have huge expectations. I wasn't expecting the movie to be Alien 0 like a lot of people seemed to be doing.
oh i wouldn't skip it. just saying keep your expectations in check
well, I wasn't following the hype at all, I watched the first trailer and that bit from MS conference.
I HATED the art style. looks like some shit straight from 60s. I always liked Alien universe for gritty realistic look.
I also don't give a damn about unanswered questions because I like it this way and Alien movies are pure survival movies for me anyway. The only question is who is going to make it to the end.
I HATED the art style. looks like some shit straight from 60s. I always liked Alien universe for gritty realistic look.
I also don't give a damn about unanswered questions because I like it this way and Alien movies are pure survival movies for me anyway. The only question is who is going to make it to the end.
This is not a pure survival movie. That's for damned sure.
Same here, except for the Alien 0 part. Because, well, even the trailers said "Before there was Alien, there was Prometheus", so of course I went it expecting Alien 0.
But nah, I didn't follow any of the hype. The only time I watched the trailers was when I "had" to watch them (ie, before the Avengers).
Demoncarnotaur
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I just viewed the black goop as a weapon/catalyst that changes to accommodate its immediate situation. Lots of people in the Prometheus spoiler thread are complaining about the complexity of the alien lifeform in this movie (worm->infection->pregnancy->squid->facehugger->proto-Xeno) but I just saw the the goo as something which quickly creates these monsters without any rhyme or reason, and which changes to fit its current situation.
For example, I didn't think that the proto-Xeno was the intended final result of the goo, or that it required Holloway having sexual intercourse with Shaw, it's just what ended up happening in this specific situation. The goop was basically unpredictable, which is why I saw it as a prototype to the classic alien bioweapon found in Alien. It infects people in different ways, eventually resulting in the alien we see at the very end of the film. I saw it as a terrifying, completely unpredictable and uncontrollable threat, which is one reason why it wiped out most of the Engineers.
Maybe I'm putting in too much effort explaining the biology of the alien lifeforms in this movie, and maybe it's the fault of the writing, but that's what I thought while watching the film.
What I took is that the goop mutates and eventually breaks life down, while infected by the goop species slowly turn, at first staying fairly normal. If they reproduce during that time, they will give birth to a new species that is related to a facehugger (Snake, Squid); the infected hosts acted as an egg. From there it has to infect a new host via facehugger style (squid on engineer, snake on Milburn) and from there an adult form chestbursts. If I had to guess, eventually something like a queen comes along bypassing black goop and first hosts by laying eggs that has facehuggers. This is all speculation, but it would explain why the squidhugger and snakehugger acted the way it did. It doesn't fully explain zombie Fiefield but I suppose its a form of spreading 'infection'.
Yes, it has flaws but I loved it. That said, it has flaws, go in with an open mind and absorb it, try to take it in.
well, is there an ALIEN at least? I know the premise but I don't know what happens after they land.
The movie has its own direction, it is and is not an "Alien" movie. Go in expecting something different, unique. It is not a direct prequel to Alien, but it certainly in the same universe and has implications for Alien.
Agent Unknown
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Ok sorry, but in my opinion this is one of the DUMBEST recurring arguments against the movie. How many times does it have to be said? It's a trillion dollar scientific space expedition funded by a megalomaniac billionaire! Alien was a working class mining ship with greasy, working class truckers. You think if Richard Branson was able to fund one of his much dreamed about deep space flights that he'd rig together a dank, dark ship with dripping pipes and personnel wearing denim shirts and baseball caps? Come on! Seriously.
If Ridley made Prometheus look like the Nostromo, the same people who complain about everything looking "too shiny" would be laughing and asking why Peter Weyland sent a bunch of scientists on such a vital mission in a rusty, dirty ship. And it looks like a 1960s movie? Right.
Pai Pai Master
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It's funny how I can't stop thinking about this film, much like I couldn't stop thinking about Avengers after I saw it, but for entirely different reasons.
While his cimplaint is silly if you subject it to more than two seconds' thought (as you did), he is entirely correct in saying it fits in with 60s (well, closer to 70s) science fiction in look.
Liquidsnake
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That's usually Scott's strong trait.
Demoncarnotaur
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Yeah, the visual design of this movie is flawless, and makes complete sense for the story. Sure, it may clash (ever so slightly) with Alien, but it is 2012 and things have changed, and I really don't feel it breaks the cannon of Alien at all. Also, as others have put said, this is highly funded expedition, not a 'small' deepspace mining rig.
This movie was sex for the eyes. Well mostly.
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This movie was sex for the eyes. Well mostly.
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Except for the squidhugger at the end, I thought it looked wayy too generic. It was ok, but it stuck out a bit.
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