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Alex's review is kind of proving Jeff's 'sony fans are the worst' statement from Jar time.

Ehh, same shit different day. Highly anticipated exclusives for a system that don't receive perfect scores will always draw ire from that companies fanboys. I say that as someone who is very much looking forward to Gravity Rush tomorrow, Alex's review was fine and he articulated his issues.
 
Alex's review is kind of proving Jeff's 'sony fans are the worst' statement from Jar time.

Giant Bomb reviews are probably the worst place you could get a proper review at. I wish they would just drop their reviews altogether. They are all over the place and usually not even close to the metacritic.

Which kinda tells me they are out of touch.

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The review seems fair, I'm just surprised they gave the first high profile Vita game since launch to their shovel ware guy. At least he didn't start with one of his generally nauseating one liners.
 
The review seems fair, I'm just surprised they gave the first high profile Vita game since launch to their shovel ware guy. At least he didn't start with one of his generally nauseating one liners.

I think Alex is the only one with any interest at all in the Vita.
 
I'm sick of this shit. 3 fucking stars? DID ALEX EVEN CHECK THE METACRITIC? It should have been 5! I mean, I haven't even played it but no way is it any less than 5 stars. I'VE READ THE REVIEWS! I KNOW WHAT THIS GAME SHOULD BE GIVEN! Fire Alex, shut down Giantbomb, I'm visiting this site again. How dare he give this 3 stars.

this man gets it.
 
Well, to be fair, Alex is just a former movie reviewer with no experience in games :p
I will say I do think 3/5 IS bad game, it's passable at best. I have always put it to grades and %60 isn't passing grade. For me 3/5 is what you give a game that isn't broken and that is one of the high points.
 
I don't think of reviews scores being converted to 'math'. Like I don't see a 3/4 as 75% or 4/5 as 80% or a B- or what have you.

I feel like meta critic converting the multitude of review scores to a simple digestible score does everybody a disservice
 
I don't think of reviews scores being converted to 'math'. Like I don't see a 3/4 as 75% or 4/5 as 80% or a B- or what have you.

I feel like meta critic converting the multitude of review scores to a simple digestible score does everybody a disservice

Well without it, people will still compared individual scores and bitch about ones that are lower than others.

I have always made review scores into a percentage or fraction; It's still a grade scale. Even without doing that, you can just take missing points or stars are major points they thought the games was missing or didn't hit.
 
Well, to be fair, Alex is just a former movie reviewer with no experience in games :p
I will say I do think 3/5 IS bad game, it's passable at best. I have always put it to grades and %60 isn't passing grade. For me 3/5 is what you give a game that isn't broken and that is one of the high points.

Didn't alex work at gamespot with everyone else for a bazillion years too?
 
I don't think of reviews scores being converted to 'math'. Like I don't see a 3/4 as 75% or 4/5 as 80% or a B- or what have you.

I feel like meta critic converting the multitude of review scores to a simple digestible score does everybody a disservice

It's the same with Rotten Tomatoes. I don't pay any attention to those averages. I pay attention to the reviewers who I think have a similar taste in movies. I do the same with reviewers of video games. I look for the people who have similar tastes. Jeff has said multiple times that's what he was striving for with GB.

And Alex is the one who is actively using his Vita. Not sure if he's come to a final conclusion about it, but he appears to like the system so far.

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Didn't alex work at gamespot with everyone else for a bazillion years too?
Yep, and I still remember his RoboCop review. And of course the famous Big Rigs video :)
 
Didn't alex work at gamespot with everyone else for a bazillion years too?

Yes, twas a joke. Actually, when GB first started I only knew who Jeff was and I never had gone to GameSpot. I really thought for some time that they were just letting one of the movie guys reviews stuff they didn't care about *opps*
 
I always assumed giantbomb's scoring system is referred to this way.

1 star = horrible
2 star = bad
3 star = decent
4 star = good
5 star = amazing

Which I appreciate in it's simplicity.
 
I always assumed giantbombs scoring system is referred to this way.

1 star = horrible
2 star = bad
3 star = decent
4 star = good
5 star = amazing

Which I appreciate in it's simplicity.

Yeah, I think some a bit more positive.


1 star = horrible
2 star = bad
3 star = good
4 star = great
5 star = amazing
 
I think giantbomb's star system, ars technica's buy/don't buy, and rock,paper,shotgun's Wot I Think where they don't even have a score at all, are pretty much the best reviewing systems out there. Anymore granularity and you're just detracting from the text.
 
Who gives two fucks what the metacritic says. If you want international consensus, go to metacritic. If you want GiantBomb's opinion, go to GiantBomb.
 
Like GB but good god the massive, rambling, crosstalk-filled post-E3 podcasts are unlistenable. With very little actual talk about games. Would be fun to hang out in person, but I can't listen to most of these. I like the regular weekly shows much better.
 
Like GB but good god the massive, rambling, crosstalk-filled post-E3 podcasts are unlistenable. With very little actual talk about games. Would be fun to hang out in person, but I can't listen to most of these. I like the regular weekly shows much better.

I enjoyed the Hawkman discussion.
 
Your opinion is silly. But I will allow that they chew up a fuck load of time. I'm going to miss This American Life because all o' dis is going to chew up my transit time.
 
I always assumed giantbomb's scoring system is referred to this way.

1 star = horrible
2 star = bad
3 star = decent
4 star = good
5 star = amazing

Which I appreciate in it's simplicity.

Yeah, I think some a bit more positive.


1 star = horrible
2 star = bad
3 star = good
4 star = great
5 star = amazing

From the site FAQ page:

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While we don't believe any game is perfect, we recommend this game without reservation.

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Still very good and easy to recommend, though it doesn't quite live up to its full potential.

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The halfway point. An inherent appreciation of this game's specific gameplay style, characters, subject matter, and so on may play as big a role in your enjoyment as the actual quality of the game.

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This game's problems outweigh its good qualities.

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This game will make you wish you had died in a fire moments before turning it on.

I see their reviews as how willingly they would recommend the game to you, moreso than them actually grading a game, as that implies that games can be graded on some sort of objective scale.
 
I see their reviews as how willingly they would recommend the game to you, moreso than them actually grading a game, as that implies that games can be graded on some sort of objective scale.

This. The entire paradigm of GiantBomb is that it's a very informal bunch of dudes that reflect the kind of atmosphere you'd have with your own group of close friends. Like I do with my friends, I don't talk grade a game out of 100 based on what it does for games, or how many Graphics Points or Gameplay Points it gets, but I tell them how I liked it and whether or not I think they should play it.

Leave it to outside discussion, learned editorial writers,
and GAF
to judge games objectively or as art; meanwhile Giant Bomb will tell you what they think of a game as a consumable product.
 
I have never read one of their reviews and I don't look at the score. I never read game reviews; having someone other than me give an opinion doesn't help. In the case of GB, that's what the quick looks are for. I'll take a recommendation, but a review number has never been useful.
 
I have never read one of their reviews and I don't look at the score. I never read game reviews; having someone other than me give an opinion doesn't help. In the case of GB, that's what the quick looks are for. I'll take a recommendation, but a review number has never been useful.
I can't remember. Have they done any Vita QLs? Or is it still impossible because they need to shoot over a dude's shoulder?
 
Reviewers have ruined the scale to the point where if a game isn't an 8, it's basically a failure.
I think gamers have ruined the scale honestly. The real opinion of a review is in the words written, not just the number. Unfortunately meta sites don't compile the words, just numbers and that's all people seem to want. Also I don't think they have done any vita QL's since the launch due to the shooting trouble.
 
That'd be an interesting idea, some kind of generator that would run the text of something through it and tag cloud the most commonly used words.

I bet it would be "visceral", "immersive" or "shazbot"
 
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