P R O M E T H E U S |OT| Ridley Scott goes back to Building Better Worlds

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As to the first part, I don't know what that has to do with anything in this thread, but even still, if the whole 90 seconds of footage Ive seen can be extrapolated over 2 hours, it will for a joke.
Doubtful.

He already did, several times in his career. He'll do it again later this year.
I don't even feel Ridley Scott remotely brought his A-game to the cinematography and direction.
Kind of hard to take you seriously if you don't feel Ridley Scott brought his A-game in those departments; this was him at his absolute finest.
 
Lol, I'm just saying: you're in the minority here if you feel the visuals in this film were nothing to write home about.

I love the visuals, but that doesn't mean the cinematography is better than Deakins' usual work. As for the direction, Scott has done much better too, just not in the last few years. :P
 
Nothing Deakins put out in the last few years compares to this film.

I disagree. I think people are impressed by the set design a lot, and this movie has fantastic art direction. The actual staging of the shots mostly feel above average but kinda boring at times. Select scenes were really fantastically shot though. It just isn't consistent throughout the movie. I enjoyed the way No Country was shot far more.
 
Nothing Deakins put out in the last few years compares to this film.

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The Assassination of Jesse James has better cinematography than any movie Ridley has ever made.
 
I thought it was great. Could have been a lot better if they at least hinted at the answers to some of the big questions but it was still an entertaining movie and I'd watch a sequel.
 
I disagree. I think people are impressed by the set design a lot, and this movie has fantastic art direction. The actual staging of the shots mostly feel above average but kinda boring at times. Select scenes were really fantastically shot though. It just isn't consistent throughout the movie. I enjoyed the way No Country was shot far more.
2007 was five years ago.

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The Assassination of Jesse James has better cinematography than any movie Ridley has ever made.
See above.
 
Rango had better cinematography FFS. Sure there were a few good shots in here, but I think it's more the art direction that had me engaged. I loved the old-school aesthetic with some futuristic tech.
 
i wasn't really impressed by the visuals

i saw it in 2D though

mostly i just think the creature design was retarded

Penises...penises everywhere. I know people accused Giger of phallic imagery before but this was taking it to the next level especially with how they killed people haha.

Also the Space Jockey faces looked bad.
 
Yeah and?

So your arbitrary "last few years" is somewhere between 0 and 5 years?
Let's just drop it.

Penises...penises everywhere. I know people accused Giger of phallic imagery before but this was taking it to the next level especially with how they killed people haha.

Also the Space Jockey faces looked bad.

I really don't think any of the designs in this film looked bad.
 
It's funny how Good Job Bob's "thing" is that he chooses to talk shit about stuff that hasn't happened yet, leaving himself open to regret it later when completely owned. Instead of focusing on how good he thinks Prometheus is, he has to try to double down on it by comparing it with something which isn't opening until this Fall. It is this unfortunate flaw which landed him with his amazing avatar in the first place. A truly tragic tale.

Edit: I agree, let's drop it. That was just a cheap dig at you, and if you prefer I can remove this post entirely.
 
people talk about spider man 3 retroactively ruining the trilogy.. this shit nearly ruined alien for me

I'm just glad this didn't end in a callback to the first movie (like The Thing prequel, which I haven't seen but I'm aware of the ending).

So I can safely separate this from the first two great films still. Since apparently this isn't the planet they arrive on in Alien.
 
It's funny how Good Job Bob's "thing" is that he chooses to talk shit about stuff that hasn't happened yet, leaving himself open to regret it later when completely owned. Instead of focusing on how good he thinks Prometheus is, he has to try to double down on it by comparing it with something which isn't opening until this Fall. It is this unfortunate flaw which landed him with his amazing avatar in the first place. A truly tragic tale.

Edit: I agree, let's drop it. That was just a cheap dig at you, and if you prefer I can remove this post entirely.

Go ahead and keep it, because I'd like to explain to you that I don't think Prometheus is that good. It has enough going for it, for me, that made it enjoyable and good. But there's a shit ton of plot problems and whatnot to keep me from truly loving it. I'm not going to try to convince anyone that they should enjoy the film and that it's good, I can totally see why someone like Solo checked out.
 
Go ahead and keep it, because I'd like to explain to you that I don't think Prometheus is that good. It has enough going for it, for me, that made it enjoyable and good. But there's a shit ton of plot problems and whatnot to keep me from truly loving it. I'm not going to try to convince anyone that they should enjoy the film and that it's good, I can totally see why someone like Solo checked out.

Well, I just meant that we can praise something without having to compare it all the time to something else (especially something that hasn't even opened yet). The visuals in Prometheus are very good, but I honestly feel that Scott has done better in terms of direction, and some of his other movies have better cinematography. The art direction of the movie is insanely beautiful, and the set design is some of the best I've seen in scifi in a long, long time. But that doesn't change how disappointing the movie was for me. I really wish I could say that it's the best scifi movie in the last two decades or whatever, but it just isn't. :/
 
The creature design is too pedestrian for me. They don't look Alien-like and more like creature concepts that "The Mist" and "Wrath of the Titans" might have rejected at one point.
 
I would just like to chip in (without judging either side of the currently happening debate) that Ridley Scott exerts a huge amount of control over the direction of photography on his films. I understand he's butted heads with unions a lot over this.
 
Well, I just meant that we can praise something without having to compare it all the time to something else (especially something that hasn't even opened yet).
Agreed.

The visuals in Prometheus are very good, but I honestly feel that Scott has done better in terms of direction, and some of his other movies have better cinematography.
I agree with this, but I also think this without a doubt ranks among those films (among only those departments, of course) and is still him at his best.
The art direction of the movie is insanely beautiful, and the set design is some of the best I've seen in scifi in a long, long time.
Definitely.

But that doesn't change how disappointing the movie was for me. I really wish I could say that it's the best scifi movie in the last two decades or whatever, but it just isn't. :/
I can't honestly say I was disappointed because I knew what I was getting into by the time I watched the film, and yeah I certainly wouldn't say it's the best Sci-Fi movie in the last two decades either.

"someone like Solo"

The words, they sting
Sorry.

There's really no-one else quite like you—I don't know what I was thinking when I wrote that.
 
Saw it last night. Only in 2D, which I kind of regret, but it was the only showing available. As it happens, I didn't like the movie enough to wish I had spent an extra $6 on it. :lol

Pros:
-Fassbender; great performance, just absolutely fun to watch. Noomi, Theron, and Elba were good too but Fassbender was far and away the standout.

-Visuals: cinematography, set design, art direction, 3D (even though I saw it in 2D, there were plenty of shots that you could definitely tell would have looked phenomenal in 3D)...just beautiful to look at.

-Interesting ideas to chew on, I guess.


Cons:
-Weak script, in just about every sense. Characterization, dialogue, plotting, structure, worldbuilding, conflict...a lot of it just flat out didn't work.

-Logan-Marshall Green. Dull performance, very disappointing given that he's one of the main characters. Seems to be a graduate of the Matthew Fox School of Acting.

-Terribad ending. This is a separate entry from the screenplay complaint just because of how fucking BAD it was. The sequel hook was supremely lame and the
"Deacon" appearance
is the worst kind of fanwank: cheesy, unnecessary, and doesn't even make sense.


7/10

There were a few instances of greatness and a few instances of "what was Ridley thinking?", but overall, it averages out to just kind of a blah movie.
 
The creature design is too pedestrian for me. They don't look Alien-like and more like creature concepts that "The Mist" and "Wrath of the Titans" might have rejected at one point.

I thought they looked pretty good for what they were going for.
There aren't any xenos in the movie so we're seeing the forerunners of that. As far as problems with the engineers being these pale creatures, I guess to each their own. I thought they looked pretty good. Kind of pale, translucent skin.
 
More I think about the movie the worse it is. Nowhere close to a disaster, just mediocre. At least it's compellingly mediocre. Look at all the discussion, good and bad, it's spurred. I'd say Alien3 is equally average, but there isn't even anything remarkable about it to discuss.

Fuck the ending.
If not, that hair is very strategically placed.
It looks like it is, but I can see nip even in that small still and I remember from the show that it's barely half-blocked. Not that I'm complaining, Clarke is hot.
 
I'm a certified Rotten Tomatoes top critic and I sort of hated it.

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Does anyone have a link to Ridley Scott saying this movie isn't a prequel? I'm arguing with someone about it and can't find it.
 
What was with the person saying this movie nullifies AvP? What was that about?

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It will clear up most mysteries around the first movie and as far I can tell some of the other parts of the franchise, while branching itself out for its own sequel. It also destroys any possible canonicalization of the Aliens vs. Predator movies if I interpreted things right. This alone makes it a good movie. lol
 
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