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Why muddle the waters at launch? Seems like it was intentional. They did not disambiguate things well on stage. The pro is a real game changer and they aren't even showing it at the presser.

I am truly interested in the pro myself.

See, here's the thing... your bitching about them misleading you, but your bitching is lasting longer than how long you were mislead...

Sorta stupid no?
 
It's a shame that they are insisting on a tard version of this tablet.
Why not just make a Budget and a Pro version, both running proper windows?
The way it is now, I'm only interested in the pro - but it'll probably be way too expensive.

Windows RT has all the capabilities of the iPad, plus more UI stuff like side-by-side apps, plus full-blown Office on it.

And that's the "tard" version?


it's not some arbitrary decision. Windows RT = ARM. It physically cannot support running the same set of applications.
 
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I'm wondering what the build difference will be between ARM and x86 editions.

Can't wait for hands on impressions of the Pro.. the 2013 release date has me slightly concerned.
 
See, here's the thing... your bitching about them misleading you, but your bitching is lasting longer than how long you were mislead...

Sorta stupid no?

I'm not mislead. Others in here are. I'm bitching about misinformation in this thread.
 
It's a shame that they are insisting on a tard version of this tablet.
Why not just make a Budget and a Pro version, both running proper windows?
The way it is now, I'm only interested in the pro - but it'll probably be way too expensive.
The Pro version will sell far less than the RT model. At half the price and a locked down system that can maintain performance, it'll be the real iPad competitor and "post-pc" device. No legacy troubles such as malware and third party bloatware can affect the RT version.
 
Let me get this straight... This will be the tablet with laptop functionality that I always wanted?

Let's say she's mostly pregnant.

Don't get completely worked up, but all signs are point nicely on the Pro for this. Waiting on price, battery, and a couple of other details.
 
Wait you really think the pro is going to be 100 dollars more than the RT. No way in hell they said it during the conference.

RT is equivalent to android tablets - 500 - 700
Pro is equivalent to ultrabook pricing 1k- 1.5k

The only thing other people are doing is changing storage size not ICs. No touch input, no x86 support. Those are big things.

Ultrabooks go as low as around $600 checking on your Amazon.com site so I can't see the Pro costing up to as much as $1500, not a chance.
 
1080p on a 10" is shitty? What?

Seriously, so sick of the ppi smack talk. People want their incredibly small screens to have these enormous pixel densities that are indistinguishable to the human eye.

When the ipad came out everybody said OMG gorgeous screen, same with the ipad 2, and now everything except for the 3 is somehow unbearable vomit-inducing garbage that makes people's eyes bleed. Enough. Screen looks great. Nobody will be complaining using that screen unless they are spec whores.
 
If the Pro is under a grand, I will buy one.

Damn this looks great. I want more specs though. Full Windows is what I've always wanted for a tablet. Even better that it has a kickstand and is essentially a laptop too. Can't wait to use this for light Steam use and Photoshop sketching....

I mean. Holy shit.
 
Let's say she's mostly pregnant.

Don't get completely worked up, but all signs are point nicely on the Pro for this. Waiting on price, battery, and a couple of other details.

Man I really hope so. I always hesitated on tablets waiting for this to come. If I can use this tablet as a laptop, or at least almost like one, then It will be a sure buy for me.
 
If the pro is 600 dollars. I'll buy 2 and give one away. No way in hell.

Pro looks awesome I just don't see that. They would have said it today. That would have been a real game changer.
 
The Pro version will sell far less than the RT model. At half the price and a locked down system that can maintain performance, it'll be the real iPad competitor and "post-pc" device. No legacy troubles such as malware and third party bloatware can affect the RT version.

Sure, the bloggers and the Starbuck "post-pc" crowd will buy the RT, but corporate world is going to go for the Pro version once they figure out you can put all their custom corporate software on it.
 
Thank you Einstein, I know all of this. My point is that none of the other manufacturer's seem to have gotten the industrial design right with the Android tablets and that has absolutely nothing to do with the OS it's running.

This actually looks cool and functional and seems to have fairly good build (from what we know of it so far). The only thing that looks like it might be comparable for my purposes is the Samsung Galaxy Note 10.1 in the Android ecosystem.

I love Android, but Google really has let its tablet side of things fester far too long, and it's going to come around and bite them in the ass.

If you know all of this, why the fuck are you talking about Android? I'm not talking about Android; I'm talking about Windows 8 tablets and that was the bolded part in my comment and its general theme, was it not?

I'm talking about the fact that there are several amazing looking WINDOWS 8 tablets that have been shown off over the last 6 months that look fantastic. Yet people are fawning over this in a way that suggests they've simply not been aware of them at all.

And again, it's fine if you/others didn't know...which is why i recommend people visit the Windows 8 thread to get caught up. I'm just wondering if it's simply because people aren't aware of their options.


If the pro is 600 dollars. I'll buy 2 and give one away. No way in hell.

Pro looks awesome I just don't see that. They would have said it today. That would have been a real game changer.
oh for sure.
 
The most I would pay for the Pro version is about $600-$700 out the door!

Don't see it below $700 and probably closer to $800, but saw a post mentioning an attendee saying the cover and digital ink stylus comes included? If so, it could be $800 out the door with accessories. That's pretty good to me.
 
Sure, the bloggers and the Starbuck "post-pc" crowd will buy the RT, but corporate world is going to go for the Pro version once they figure out you can put all their custom corporate software on it.
Definitely. I'm just saying corporate is the minority in terms of volume compared to the consumer world.
 
Windows RT has all the capabilities of the iPad, plus more UI stuff like side-by-side apps, plus full-blown Office on it.

And that's the "tard" version?


it's not some arbitrary decision. Windows RT = ARM. It physically cannot support running the same set of applications.

It having ARM instead of an Intel is what makes it tard. I can't just install steam on it and play through my entire collection, I will instead have do with tablet style games, and if I come across any interesting programs online I'll just have to hope they exist as ARM apps.

If they have the ability to put a proper Windows in a tablet format, then why not just do it for their entire range of tablets so that they can all benefit from having a proper desktop OS in a portable form factor?
Just adjust the hardware+extras for the different priced versions, e.g. budget could come with an i3 processor and no stylus, a mid-tier with i5 and no stylus, and a pro version with everything that has been shown.
 
I have to agree with some people here saying that RT isn't competitive with the iPad. It's nice and all, but it has a worse screen, far less apps, and no compatibility with legacy windows software. The Pro version looks interesting, but that's going to be $1000+ most probably, so that puts it in MBA territory.
 
So people really think the pro is going to be 600 dollars. That confounds me.

If that were true microsoft would have taken a dump on an iPad on stage.
 
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