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Guild Wars 2 public Beta is here for pre-purchases! [Stress Test June 27th]

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BrettWeir said:
Out of sheer boredom, I decided to check out The Secret World beta that started today. Holy hell. Complete train wreck.

Look what you're making me do, ANet!
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The combat is very, VERY spammy/boring. There's no weight to anything you do at all.

Piecake said:
Havent played the game yet (no pre-order philosophy) and was really interested in the Mesmer. But from what ive read about it so far, it doesnt sound like the class is all that well put together. Like the only competent build is a phantasm build, and thats something that sounds boring to me

Perhaps ill roll engineer if/when i get the game
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I feel like Mesmer got the short end of the stick cause it has had the least amount of development time and they've admitted that.
 
I've been playing the Secret World beta, at least this weekend and last, and you're both right about it, but I think they did get some things right. The world is cool and I think that they present the single player story better than Bioware and ANet do in many ways.

Combat has been spamming one or two skills over and over. Quests, world and story they do better than a lot of games though.

A lot of framerate issues, various "jank" existing, and lip synching was totally off in the last beta. I guess this beta is the PvP one, but I'm so demanding as a PVPer that I'm afraid to even touch it.
 
etiolate said:
I've been playing the Secret World beta, at least this weekend and last, and you're both right about it, but I think they did get some things right. The world is cool and I think that they present the single player story better than Bioware and ANet do in many ways.

Combat has been spamming one or two skills over and over. Quests, world and story they do better than a lot of games though.

A lot of framerate issues, various "jank" existing, and lip synching was totally off in the last beta. I guess this beta is the PvP one, but I'm so demanding as a PVPer that I'm afraid to even touch it.
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It reminds me of Hellgate London. But worse.....

Sad for a 2012 game.
 
I was in the closed beta for Secret World for several months, but didn't really play it extensively. I liked the world, the lore was fun, the different quests were nice....but the combat was pretty lame. I kept waiting to get some cool skills that I could make interesting synergies between like in other deck-based games, but it never came. Maybe I was just missing the depth, but it really felt spammy and annoying.

Game would have made a pretty cool adventure game with little to no combat though. Oh well.
 
Apparently, Kekai Kotaki is leaving ArenaNet. After 8 years of doing incredible work for them he is leaving in pursuit of other opportunities.

This is a farewell from me. I am leaving ArenaNet after a little more than over 8 years of being here (my first day was 11/24/2003, it was so long ago that I was 21). This comes with a certain amount of sadness as this was my first job in the gaming industry. I first started doing ground textures for the original Guild Wars and I end it being the Concept Art Lead on Guild Wars 2. I’ve had a pretty good run, worked hard played hard, but all things must eventually come to an end. I am leaving to go search for new endeavors. For all I have done here, this is all I have done.
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http://www.guildwars2guru.com/topic/40663-kekai-kotaki-is-leaving-arenanet/

Shame, he is one of the best concept artists I have ever seen. Loved his work since Guild Wars 1. My hopes to him for further success wherever he decide to go.
 
I loved the original Guild Wars so much back in the day, but didn't play much of the expansions. Does Guild Wars 2 seem to retain the same feeling of what made the first game so great yet still have innovation? I'm just starting to look into what this game has to offer and I'm looking to board the hype train if its worth the ticket.
 
BravesCountry said:
I loved the original Guild Wars so much back in the day, but didn't play much of the expansions. Does Guild Wars 2 seem to retain the same feeling of what made the first game so great yet still have innovation? I'm just starting to look into what this game has to offer and I'm looking to board the hype train if its worth the ticket.
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Well, I would definetly call the game innovative, but it then depends on what you thought made the first game great, cause Guild Wars 2 changes a lot.
 
Keasar said:
Apparently, Kekai Kotaki is leaving ArenaNet. After 8 years of doing incredible work for them he is leaving in pursuit of other opportunities.


http://www.guildwars2guru.com/topic/40663-kekai-kotaki-is-leaving-arenanet/

Shame, he is one of the best concept artists I have ever seen. Loved his work since Guild Wars 1. My hopes to him for further success wherever he decide to go.
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Yeah, I was sad to hear it too. They still have Daniel Dociu for a lead concept artist and I'm willing to bet Richard Anderson will take Kekai's spot as the 2nd lead concept artist.
 
Has anyone ever asked why guild capes aren't back? Since you can switch between guilds it hardly seems difficult to capes swap when you switch who you're representing.

And when I was talking about the human warrior, to me it just seems like the most unoriginal class available. I never, ever, roll human warriors.
 
JonCha said:
Has anyone ever asked why guild capes aren't back? Since you can switch between guilds it hardly seems difficult to capes swap when you switch who you're representing.

And when I was talking about the human warrior, to me it just seems like the most unoriginal class available. I never, ever, roll human warriors.
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There IS a back slot, but not for capes. I'll find them tomorrow but there's these items that go on your back that seem quite interesting. As far as guild stuff goes, there's these items you can get where you apply a your guild emblem onto your chest piece/weapon/shield in place of guild capes.
 
It might help people to speculate more accurately, if they didn't speculate as if GW2 and it's release date are in a vacuum unaffected by anything else other than the game and it's developers.

A few things to consider:

1.Mist of Pandaria (seriously, if it is not released before this game by atleast a month, then early sales of GW2 will take a huge hit).

2.Marketing and the gaming convention season, as they are one and the same thing (for Arenanet and NCsoft to get maximum impact and exposure this year they need to arrive with a live game).

3.Partially to do with point 1, they need to disclose the release date as close to the actual release date as they possibly can, without negatively impacting sales too much (if they fail to do this Blizzard will do everything they can to rip Anet a new a-hole).

4.Whether people like it or not because it goes against their release date speculations, NCsoft does not like the idea of releasing in September, regardless of how successful they think GW2 will be, I am pretty sure we will not see GW2 released in this month.

5.The ubiquitous Cash shop, believe me this little baby is at the fore front of NCsofts thinking when they consider GW2's release, the sooner they can get the game live and income streaming in via this, the happier they will be (and so will their investors).

6.Mike O'Briens comment regarding people speculating the game would not release in 2012 as being absurd, is really quite informative. It shows that even in their worst possible outcomes that they have listed down, they have a cushion that will still avoid the game pushing into 2013. (Say the worst possible outcome is October, that would leave them a cushion of 2 months still, which is why he was able to say these speculations were absurd).

7.If October is what Arenanet has as their worst case scenario regarding the games release and September is firmly in the naughty book as far as NCsoft is concerned, that leaves us July/August (after the recent announcement of the stress test, which will take place on the 27th June and another BWE to follow, I think the chance of a July release are very low but not impossible).

8.This leaves us with August, in particular the first 2 weeks of August, as the rest of August is convention season (this is maximum exposure for their new shiney toy (what better way is their to boost your sale of your shiney new game, than to highlight it as the conventions, with all the gaming press still in starry eyed and now prompted to keep giving rave reviews).

9. Arenanet stated that the amount of time between the start of Open Betas and release would be shorter than GW (not they hope, but it would be). The first OB for GW was in November 2004, the game released in April 2005 (The mass event prior to November was not a Beta, but a Demo like they have shown at multiple conventions this time around). GW2's OB/BWE's started in April 2012, an October release would be equal to the amount of time GW's took, September is extremely unlikely, due to NCsofts input on the release date. this leaves us with August as the most likely month they would be able to release in and keep that promise. (I am not bothered whether people consider this still relevant or not, because it was removed from the FAQ).

10.May aswell round it off with a number 10 point. The average gap between OB's/BWE/Pre-purchases and the actual release dates of the games for NCsoft is 3.2 months (July 16th), when you throw Arenanets games into the mix we get 4.1 months August 13th).
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Some interesting points from a Guru post that reinforce my August release prediction. All speculation ofcourse, but what else have we to do until the stress test. :p
 
I like how he invents an argument in point 6 and then uses it to validate his argument in point 7. And how does he know NCsoft doesn't want to release a game in September?
 
FutureZombie said:
I like how he invents an argument in point 6 and then uses it to validate his argument in point 7. And how does he know NCsoft doesn't want to release a game in September?
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Yeah. This guy talks about people to make sense for making a speculation on release dates and puts out a stupid list that doesn't even remotely make sense except within some ignorant vaccuum. No, sorry, but I think that user is a moron. I've shown more than enough realistic and legitimate reasons as to when this game is coming out and why. He's a moron.

EDIT: There's only two major factors - three if you really want to be hardcore - that ANet will care about when they will release the game. 1.) Financial forecasting: This is the most important since ANet will not release at a time when they could be making more money. It actually matters. 2.) Game Readiness: This is an obvious one. Why release an unfinished product.
 
NCSoft said in their earnings call a few months ago they want to avoid releasing games in September as they believe Aions poor sales were due to a September release date. I don't see how none of those points don't make sense.. i mean, he's just speculating but he's using valid points so i don't see how he's being a 'moron'.
 
Mulligan said:
NCSoft said in their earnings call a few months ago they want to avoid releasing games in September as they believe Aions poor sales were due to a September release date. I don't see how none of those points don't make sense.. i mean, he's just speculating but he's using valid points so i don't see how he's being a 'moron'.
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It's in a tight sealed vaccuum where he thinks only one reason dictates the rules of everything. He think of everything in exclusive terms rather than in concurrence. It's a very narrow way of thinking.
 
Though some seem to think Mists of Pandaria won't arrive till 2013, I would not be at all surprised if Blizzard heard when GW2 was coming out and released it to coincide rather closely.
 
kayos90 said:
It's in a tight sealed vaccuum where he thinks only one reason dictates the rules of everything. He think of everything in exclusive terms rather than in concurrence. It's a very narrow way of thinking.
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But they're all valid points.. fair enough if he was just pulling stuff out of his ass but his reasoning is sound based off the info we have.

Though some seem to think Mists of Pandaria won't arrive till 2013, I would not be at all surprised if Blizzard heard when GW2 was coming out and released it to coincide rather closely.
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If Anet announce the release date 2-3 months in advance to release, you can bet your ass that Blizzard are going to do everything in their power to undercut them and get it out before.
 
Vinci said:
Though some seem to think Mists of Pandaria won't arrive till 2013, I would not be at all surprised if Blizzard heard when GW2 was coming out and released it to coincide rather closely.
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I wouldn't be surprised if Mists of Pandaria's release date remains a mystery until GW2's does. Blizzard has sat on content before when they can drop near a rival product, wouldn't put it past them to do the same for a whole expansion.
 
Mulligan said:
But they're all valid points.. fair enough if he was just pulling stuff out of his ass but his reasoning is sound based off the info we have.
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That's not what I'm talking about. It doesn't matter if they're valid reasons or not. He's basing his entire speculation on one piece of information and making it exclusive from other pieces of evidence/thought processes. It's not smart and this is a tunnel-visioned way of making forecasts. AKA: he'd be a bad analyst.

Retro said:
I wouldn't be surprised if Mists of Pandaria's release date remains a mystery until GW2's does. Blizzard has sat on content before when they can drop near a rival product, wouldn't put it past them to do the same for a whole expansion.
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At this point, I agree. You'd think that MoP date would be announced by now. I'm sort of shocked and not that this is happening. Lolz.
 
If those leaks are real, and they're now asking closed beta testers to play the game as if it were live, then it's pretty much done. If it were releasing November, or even October, i don't think they'd ask them to do that this early on.
 
Wow @ the Sylvari zone shots.

If those class changes are real, I like the Banner duration change for Warrior cause I felt they didn't last long enough to warrant the slot.

Also, that is A LOT of weapons...
 
Anyone know if the item that changes armor graphics to another armor graphic works on cosmetic items?

IE. Having a chest with stats, and giving it the look of a casual wear item you purchased?
 
Ferrio said:
Anyone know if the item that changes armor graphics to another armor graphic works on cosmetic items?

IE. Having a chest with stats, and giving it the look of a casual wear item you purchased?
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I think they said that Town Clothes couldn't be used for transmutation, but I could be wrong and I can't find a source. I don't see why they wouldn't allow it, unless they don't want stuff like Sunglasses and Pirate outfits out there ruining the immersion.

Unrelated: My wife's GAF account was approved today. Look out.
 
Retro said:
I think they said that Town Clothes couldn't be used for transmutation, but I could be wrong and I can't find a source. I don't see why they wouldn't allow it, unless they don't want stuff like Sunglasses and Pirate outfits out there ruining the immersion.

Unrelated: My wife's GAF account was approved today. Look out.
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If she gonna be in here double teaming with you making lame puns or does she want to kill you when you do it?
 
Very impressive small details video

http://youtu.be/fu_clrndx_c

The change in sound based on water depth and the cloth skirt billowing is insanely impressive. Also, the fact that they put in over 1 min of animations for a wolf that serves no purpose astounds me.
 
Retro said:
I wouldn't be surprised if Mists of Pandaria's release date remains a mystery until GW2's does. Blizzard has sat on content before when they can drop near a rival product, wouldn't put it past them to do the same for a whole expansion.
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its amazing that MoP has not more in it. It has almost nothing in it. five more levels, a race and a class.


what that game needs is a complete pvp overhaul and re-done character models. seriously.
 
Jira said:
Very impressive small details video

http://youtu.be/fu_clrndx_c

The change in sound based on water depth and the cloth skirt billowing is insanely impressive. Also, the fact that they put in over 1 min of animations for a wolf that serves no purpose astounds me.
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Excellent video showcasing the small details that make the game feel more "alive" and immersive. It's the things that really help give a game its soul and draw the player in without even paying direct attention to them.
 
Jira said:
Wow @ the Sylvari zone shots.

If those class changes are real, I like the Banner duration change for Warrior cause I felt they didn't last long enough to warrant the slot.

Also, that is A LOT of weapons...
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I am absolutely enamored with what I have seen for the Sylvari zone so far. Going to be really hard to resist playing it and not spoiling it if they have it in any of the future BWEs.

In any case, first post here on GAF - have been following this thread in particular for some time and enjoying your passionate, love-for-the-game-fueled banter and excellent info sharing. Just got my account validated, so looking forward to years of GW2 chatter that are sure to be ahead.
 
aramanKain said:
I am absolutely enamored with what I have seen for the Sylvari zone so far. Going to be really hard to resist playing it and not spoiling it if they have it in any of the future BWEs.

In any case, first post here on GAF - have been following this thread in particular for some time and enjoying your passionate, love-for-the-game-fueled banter and excellent info sharing. Just got my account validated, so looking forward to years of GW2 chatter that are sure to be ahead.
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I assume you're Retro's wife? Welcome! Glad to have another person in the thread.
 
Is there a GW1 GAF guild helping out with HoM? I'm a level 7 Warrior and realize I will need a lot of help if I have any chance of getting 30/50 before launch.
 
jonah777 said:
Is there a GW1 GAF guild helping out with HoM? I'm a level 7 Warrior and realize I will need a lot of help if I have any chance of getting 30/50 before launch.
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Just a heads up: you don't have to do everything before Launch. You can continue to work towards your HoM after GW2 launches and things will be added to your account automatically.

No rush. But still, great way to kill time while waiting until November.
 
Retro said:
Just a heads up: you don't have to do everything before Launch. You can continue to work towards your HoM after GW2 launches and things will be added to your account automatically.

No rush. But still, great way to kill time while waiting until November.
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Thanks for the heads up. Yeah I'm really enjoying this so far and am kicking myself for not having started earlier. At the very least, I'd like to get to 11/50 before launch but even that seems like it'll take some grinding if I go solo.
 
I just need money eventually.

The whole game is pretty easy, just annoyingly long and boring.

Edit: Hopefully when I get to the underworld at the end of nightfall, it will be easy money.
 
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