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[Miletius]

SCOTUS blog has something different. Mandate survives as a tax. CNN is bullshit.

 

[SolarPowered]

10:08 Amy Howe: "The individual mandate survives as a tax."

There it is

 

[GTI Guy]

The individual mandate survives as a tax.

Edit:

Curses!

What the hell does that mean?

 

[KingGondo]

WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Take that, uninsured!

Spoiler

Tacky as fuck to be celebrating something like that

 

[GaimeGuy]

Yea, it's easy to say "well if this fails we'll just fight for singlepayer" but think of all the shit that needed to happen for this piece of shit to pass.

It wasn't Republicans who sank single-payer, it was good old boy Democrats like Ben Nelson, Joementum, and, apparently, Barack Obama. Republicans weren't going to vote for any healthcare bill. But Democrats had 60 votes in the Senate and this was the best they could do.

Unless someone seriously sees Dems getting 65-70 votes in the future, single-payer ain't happening any time soon.

10-15 of the democrats in the senate were basically pro-choice republicans. The amount of actual liberals, and I'm speaking only in the american political spectrum, was probably around 30. People like Nancy Pelosi and Al Franken would be in a centrist labor party in most countries. Bernie Sanders would be center/center-left.

PS: Single payer was never acutally on the table during the health care debates. A public option is not single payer. A medicare buy in is not single payer. Single payer would be taking an additional 3-5% out of everyone's paychecks in taxes and providing medicare for everyone. That was never on the table. Not in a single committee.

 

[gcubed]

WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Lawl

 

[dramatis]

This is hilarious.

FoxNewsRadio on Twitter has jumped the gun and reported that it's been struck down.

 

[RustyNails]

bam

 

[Brinbe]

lol CNN, fucking hacks

Fucking get your facts straight before you go looking for scoops.

 

[ElRenoRaven]

Whoa wait scotus blog is saying mandate is constitutional. So which is it?

 

[Gaborn]

Oh fuck, individual mandate killed according to CNN

But nothing official!

Yes Nancy, it is a serious question.

edit: Wow. Well then, I guess Obama was wrong about the law being a penalty.

 

[Htown]

fuckin cnn

 

[e_i]

What the hell does that mean?

Yeah? What does it mean?

 

[sangreal]

What the hell does that mean?

that CNN is a joke

(and they bought my argument)

 

[thefro]

Ruling is complicated, apparently.

 

[Talamius]

FNC (which I'm watching for maximum hilarity) also fucked it up.

 

[ViperVisor]

Bush wins Florida.

 

[KingGondo]

Wow. Upheld!

So the mandate is constitutional. Chief Justice Roberts joins the left of the Court.

 

[Amir0x]

10:10

Tom:
So the mandate is constitutional. Chief Justice Roberts joins the left of the Court.

OFFICIALLY UPHELD

 

[slit]

Wow, CNN really fucked up.

 

[Shirokun]

Haha. Fucking CNN!

 

[Salvor.Hardin]

Tom:
So the mandate is constitutional. Chief Justice Roberts joins the left of the Court.


AWESOME>

 

[Zaraki_Kenpachi]

CBS says it was upheld? (the mandate)

 

[Clevinger]

lol @ cnn

also:

http://www.google.com/finance?q=aetna

look at that drop

 

[marrec]

What the hell does that mean?

Means that the mandate survives...

I knew Roberts was going to go left for this one.

 

[DrFunk]

CNBC says the mandate may be upheld as congress taxing power

 

[richiek]

WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

What a joke.

And the mandate is upheld. LOL.

 

[Derrick01]

Every one of these places should just stfu until the ruling is released. This is worse than E3.

 

[Brinbe]

Jesus Christ, they couldn't wait a few minutes to be sure... embarrassing journalism.

 

[The Librarian]

Yeah? What does it mean?

It means that the law has been upheld, basically.

 

[Zero-Crescent]

Looks like Roberts was the surprise vote.

 

[Trurl]

The mandate surviving as a tax is good enough, right?

 

[gcubed]

I called the Roberts swing due to his ruling earlier

 

[GTI Guy]

What the hell is going on!?1?!

LOL!!!! whaaaat?

 

[slit]

Looks like Roberts was the surprise vote.

I had a feeling he would be.

 

[sangreal]

Jesus Christ, they couldn't wait a few minutes to be sure... embarrassing journalism.

It's hilarious, they went through their entire obituary

 

[Fox Mulder]

so should i turn on glenn beck for the lulz?

 

[Zero Hero]

WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Once again, conservatives on the wrong side of history.

 

[Kusagari]

lmao at CNN going crazy when it will survive anyway.

 

[marrec]

I called the Roberts swing due to his ruling earlier

A lot of people were guessing that Roberts would go left, but I too called it all the way back when they were first hearing the arguments.

 

[diffusionx]

Wow @ Roberts. I'm stunned.

Surely the blame lies in the camp of Obama, who has always held the principle of bipartisanship high (also prior to his presidency), and not by the republicans who are not actually proposing policy, but simply opposing any and all policy "from the other guy".

Anyone who has been paying attention to politics since 1992 should know that is exactly how Republicans have been "governing." They do not work with Democrats in good faith. They do not believe in the legitimacy of Democratic Presidents. That's how they operate. Krugman was writing about it in the New York Times in 2003. If Obama really thought his bipartisan shine was going to do a complete turnabout on the Republicans he was a fool.

 

[Derrick01]

What the hell is going on!?1?!

LOL!!!! whaaaat?

I don't know. MSNBC is declaring a huge victory for Obama already. I didn't even know anything was released!

 

[Mac_Lane]

This is delightful. Made my day !

Congratz from France my fellow American gaffers !

 

[Hari Seldon]

I'm on the scrap the current bill and give us single payer bandwagon myself.

 

[CrazyDogg77]

WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Why would you celebrate this?

 

[Bowdz]

What is the actual decision? Fox News and CNN are reporting the mandate was struck down yet SCOTUSBlog said it was Constitutional. Lol CNN and Fox FTMFL.

 

[KingGondo]

Every one of these places should just stfu until the ruling is released. This is worse than E3.

It's out. It's just being read and analyzed.

The bottom line: the entire ACA is upheld, with the exception that the federal government's power to terminate states' Medicaid funds is narrowly read.

Bam.

 

[Timedog]

WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Still laughing. All that I want.

 

[pxleyes]

How do you get conflicting reports from SCOTUS?

 

[Josta]

WTF is going on?? I'm so confused right now! Hold me, GAF!!