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Lol. Yeah, it definitely felt like it wanted to hit Batman Begins territory.
I bet the next one is going to hit The Dark Knight territory with
Gwen Stacy dying.
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Lol. Yeah, it definitely felt like it wanted to hit Batman Begins territory.
I bet the next one is going to hit The Dark Knight territory with
WTF are you smoking?! :lol
Keeping a promise to not telling a secret to your best friend is different from cutting it off with your high school sweetheart. All that stuff is foreshadowing and will come back to haunt him, Aunt May's little 'secrets have a cost' and Capt. Stacy saying to never see her again, it's all to come back and bite him when she inevitably gets hurt or dies.
Peter isn't perfect, he's a three dimensional character and that's how a real teenager would deal with all this. Unlike the Raimi characters where it was all pretty cookie cutter simple.
dont like the tone of the new movie... i feel (though it may not be the case) that its trying to go the chris nolan batman route.
Spiderman 1 is much better imo...and liked how they didnt focus on parker being a teen in the whole movie..
spiderman 1 trailer.... come on people
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FN3YaybNJ2s
Spiderman 1 is much better imo...and liked how they didnt focus on parker being a teen in the whole movie..
spiderman 1 trailer.... come on people
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FN3YaybNJ2s
EXACTLY what I said before, it's what made me get over GG and SM never really having serious arial battles like in the comics. It was so brutal and showed Peter on the edge, about to give up.
I never got where GG pulled that spear thing out of, though, but it was a great triumphant moment when he overcame it and I remember the score playing a part there.
It's funny because I remember the entire family, youngsters included, watching this movie pretty recently and the uncles and parents being like 'wtf this brutal' at those parts. It countered all the cheesiness well.
Besides, breaking a promise to a man you hardly knew so you can tap Emma Stone over and over again VS a promise to a man you saw as a father-figure to protect your best friend.
It's not really the same.
SilentProtagonist
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I don't really have difficult bowel movements so I guess the thought of associating that never occurred to me.
I look forward to Garfield's inevitable scene where they try to one up that one from the previous trilogy:
This is also his "Someone just died"-face.
Discotheque
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But Peter WALKED away from MJ. The girl he's wanted to bang since he was like 7 years old. Just because he didn't want her to get hurt, and nobody told him to do that. It was his own doing.
SilentProtagonist
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That's because he was a Spider-MAN not a Spider-Boy.
So what are you trying to say exactly? That this Peter is an ass whole or what? That he should've cut off ties with Gwen at the end of the movie and made ASM even more similar to SM1?
I for one am glad they're not playing the bullshit drama card with this relationship, and really just showing them being in love and the chemistry they have rather than struggling all the time.
It's gonna make for a bitter sweet death eventually.
Discotheque
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I'm saying the other Peter Parker is a solid role model and the new one is a menace!
You're right though, it would have been too similar if they went with him walking away from Gwen.
You're right though, it would have been too similar if they went with him walking away from Gwen.
One is the boy scout, the other is an actual human being, 17 years of age and wanting to bang that booty till the crack of dawn.
Just semi-difficult? Well, now you have Tobey's face as a reference.
Garfield tried his hard to make funny faces during that interview so I admit that for Tobey it came naturally, like he was born with it:
SilentProtagonist
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Not that we really need to be getting into the who has a worse face debate, but isn't that famous pic of tobey from the blooper reel of SM3 when he was making doofy faces in between takes?Just semi-difficult? Well, now you have Tobey's face as a reference.
Garfield tried his hard to make funny faces during that interview so I admit that for Tobey it came naturally, like he was born with it:
Exactly. If that's his face when he tries making doofy faces and his idea of being injured is the constipated look, then he doesn't exactly have that much of a range, does he? It's like he has the same stupid look for two completely different situations. The train scene requires something that would make one want to sympathize with Spidey not laugh/cringe/be put-off at his face.
ThatObviousUser
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Since we're talking about favorite scenes from the original trilogy, I was thinking the other day that mine just might be the Aunt May packing scene in SM2. There was something that was so humanizing about the whole exchange, that not even SM3 got close to. A runner up is obviously the preceding exchange where Peter comes clean. It all felt so real. Punch to the stomach for sure.
Even the neighbor kid in the packing scene played his part well.
"I believe there's a hero in all of us."
Even the neighbor kid in the packing scene played his part well.
And was obvious inspiration for "Do you think he's coming back?" kid in TDKR. :O
"I believe there's a hero in all of us."
No, the new one is an imperfect teenager and that makes him more human.
ThatObviousUser
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It's up there. MJ's look of disbelief really felt earned through both movies.
(Sculli's gonna show up soon and rave about the raindrops/cookies scenes next.
)Him becoming a 'solid role model' throughout the sequels is what could make this franchise great; the progression. By
killing ASM3
Or they'll do it all so fast or not at all and this'll get stale, be unsuccessful, and reboot yet again. Hopefully the former instead...
Right now though, it all hinders on how good ASM2 ends up being. Remember that what made SM3's numbers so fucking high is because how well SM2 was (esp. after-the-fact). If they can pull that off again, and have the third not suck, it'll be excellent.
The Anti-Monitor
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The Line was particularly famous thanks to SM1, but I'm sure it was that way in Spider-Man TAS and has been retconned to be that way in the comics too.
Come on, everyone was expecting the line, it's just a classic.
Come on, everyone was expecting the line, it's just a classic.
I much preferred ASM to SM2/3. Really enjoyed it, even if at times the dialogue was a bit cringeworthy, along with the *roll your eyes* crane scene.
Garfield was perfect for the role, his dramatic and comedic scenes were very good.
However, Sally Fields was underused, villain wasn't threatening at all and at times it felt some plots went nowhere. I assume they will be briefly touched upon in the inevitable sequel.
Garfield was perfect for the role, his dramatic and comedic scenes were very good.
However, Sally Fields was underused, villain wasn't threatening at all and at times it felt some plots went nowhere. I assume they will be briefly touched upon in the inevitable sequel.
Yup, I think by setting him up as a rather selfish and ignorant teenager now means that there are a lot of room for Parker in TASM series to go in terms of character development. One without the need to go back and forth too much between progress and setback. Let him learn the harsh way that his selfishness and unwillingness to honor his promise will cost him severely (like we know it will). Then show us him maturing into the responsible guy that he eventually becomes.
The way Aunt May says that line, I loop it in my head like a song lyric. That little tremble in her old voice. Loved it. Her face and slipping away when Peter tells the truth was also great.
But I hope this time around they make Aunt May sort of hate Spidey like in the comics. Maybe even get romantic with a JJJ (or his father, better yet). They don't need to turn May into the wise grandma figure again.
The only way they could've used it imo is putting it into the end voicemail, but even then i'm sure a lot of people would be saying 'oh how fucking convenient' if that were the case.
I may be wrong, but I got the impression that when Peter came home after the battle with the Lizard, she knew, or at least suspected that he's Spider-Man. After all, she wasn't even questioning why he was so late again and why is he so beaten up.
Salvor.Hardin
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I was under the impression that she thought he was just caught up the chaos in Manhattan and got some bruises. I really think they would have clarified it a lot more if she found out he was Spider-Man.
I think Sheen delivered that message better in that scene than Raimi-Ben did in the SM1 car scene. Despite being killed suddenly, the blue collar guy and him being all noble came across better here imo.
I'm not so sure. The only real thing that indicates as much in SM2 was the 'when's spidey coming back' scene but even that is up for debate. I don't think Raimi thinks that she knows for sure, just that it was played with.
There's an Ock fight where SM yells "hold on may" as well but that was it.
I looked into a portal into a parallel universe where everything is exactly the same except they included that line in the voice mail.
The alternate-GAF thread is full of people complaining how awkward and shoehorned and overused the line is. Curiously, it's the same people here complaining about how the line wasn't used right.
Wasn't that the night after the fight scene? You know, right after he punched a dude down a hallway.
The CG was dated when it was released.
I'll never understand what compelled Raimi to have the camera so close to a CG Peter Parker when he's NOT in costume.
In regard to Captain Stacy's request to Peter...
I'm fine with the approach they took in the movie, but it really does make Spider-man seem like an asshole.
Perhaps it's been mentioned, but in the comics, he tells Peter to take care of Gwen with his dying words, but Gwen is under the impression Spider-man's responsible for her father's death.
I'm fine with the approach they took in the movie, but it really does make Spider-man seem like an asshole.
It was even bad in SM3, Peter in a suit looking like a video game character during his Harry fight, for example. Yet other scenes (Sandman) looked great.
Overall though, I think ASM did a great job in this regard. I had no clue that this scene was entirely CG.
Here's another VFX vid I hadn't seen posted (sewer scene); http://youtu.be/8w-dbtvOCvA
It's sort of reminiscent of the May in the Ult. SM comics, where sure she's his aunt and care provider but for a long time she's just one of those people raising a child that isn't hers. Not that she doesn't love him, but that there's a sort of tension/fine line in that you don't treat him like your son exactly but also still love him and all that. Kind of like a step mom or foster parent or something like that.
But like Salvor, I don't think she knew exactly then and there.
I love how Peter handled Stacy's wish.
Spider-Man doesn't care about the wishes of a Dead-Man. With great power comes an even greater payoff. Spider-Man. Has. No. Limits
The scene is nice but it's kind of ridiculous to relate it to a 8 year old kid. "A hero able to make us die with pride. Spider-Man did all that for Henry." Yea sure he did lady. Sure the 8 year old thought about all that.
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So are we to believe that Aunt May knows?
Can't argue with this. Maybe the sequel will play out with MJ waiting in the wings, Parker debating on the best way to ditch Gwen, and then of course the inevitable happens, with Parker commenting on how that couldn't have gone any better, and finish with a MJ tap session.
AgentChris
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IMO she knows. That look at the end after watching the news and Peter returning home all scuffed up.
BattleMonkey
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Biggest surprise of the movie is that Peter didn't just tell her. He tells everyone else.
Christopher
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I also love how these movies make the NYPD seem like the best thing ever 
I will not come at you. I will join you. I agree, Spiderman 3 has some fucking nuts and I love it for it.
zomgbbqftw
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I would have thought so. I mean otherwise she would have asked why he was so beat up at the end instead of him just giving her eggs.
It's also going to make the overall arc of Spider-Man 2 exactly the fucking same as this first movie, and casts Peter as a giant selfish asshole after his supposed character development in ASM. No thanks.
SonicMegaDrive
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Aunt May has always known Pete is Spidey. They even revealed that in the comics, I believe.
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was that Norman or the Vulture at the end?
BattleMonkey
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Then they retconned that
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