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Naruto

Funny how Sasuke becomes so stoic when Suigetsu is around. When it was Itachi and Sasuke, Sasuke was the one with the emotions on his sleeve.

I don't think it's because Sasuke's close to Itachi or anything like that. It's more like Kishimoto doesn't know how to write two contrasting characters, without using his general "quiet guy vs loud guy" blueprint.


As for Orochimaru being weak when he fought Sasuke, the general theory was that after fighting Naruto's 4 tailed form, his host body started to reject him. There was some sort of thing about how Orochimaru having to transfer to a new body every 3 years. But Kishimoto wrote Orochimaru's weakness as something to do with his arms...something that was solved at the end of part 1. Can't keep up with your own canon.
 
I really need to catch up on Reborn, I'm 200+ chapters late. :/
Also, are Nura and Blue Exorcist any good ?

Blue Exorcist is pretty good but slow, well its monthly, might as well get into it.

Reborn is definitely well worth it, its gotten so good from its start that it is a favorite.

Nura I need to check out though, guess Ill give the anime a shot some day and then go to the manga when that ends.
 
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Here is the small "explosion" caused by the Gastanets. He then uses the Oxygen to feed the explosion making it big as hell. That's it.
 
I'll stop being condescending when you stop making up really stupid reasons for bashing One Piece. If you know the difference, why don't you see how him removing oxygen from the air is changing up a mixture?
First of all, you should not talk. Everyone who made a positive comment about Bleach you comment about their comment. It´s like you resent people for liking what you don´t like. Second of all, it´s not stupid at all to question a broke ass character and the limit of their broken abilities.
There's been absolutely no implication in any way or place of him being able to split chemical bonds, let alone splitting atoms. So if you know the difference you're making arguments fully knowing they're bad.
There´s no implication that he can´t.


edit: to be clear.

Moving oxygen around (changing a mixture) = moving his arm left or right, metaphorically

SPLITTING A CHEMICAL BOND, H2O = akin to changing the inner working of his cells.

There's been absolutely no implication that he can do the 2nd, why act like he totally can?
We will have to wait and see his full ability.

That's so much simpler of an explanation than anything else ever, Beam can't argue now. Case closed.
Water vapor does not exist. Go read some books kid.
 
Assassination Classroom 2

Not bad.

I guess the first few chapters will be introducing the major students and their problems and then the story will maybe change. I still have no idea if this is being planned on being random wacky adventures with students and the teacher or if shit will get serious at some point.
 
Naruto

Funny how Sasuke becomes so stoic when Suigetsu is around. When it was Itachi and Sasuke, Sasuke was the one with the emotions on his sleeve.

I don't think it's because Sasuke's close to Itachi or anything like that. It's more like Kishimoto doesn't know how to write two contrasting characters, without using his general "quiet guy vs loud guy" blueprint.


As for Orochimaru being weak when he fought Sasuke, the general theory was that after fighting Naruto's 4 tailed form, his host body started to reject him. There was some sort of thing about how Orochimaru having to transfer to a new body every 3 years. But Kishimoto wrote Orochimaru's weakness as something to do with his arms...something that was solved at the end of part 1. Can't keep up with your own canon.
nt really, it's just that it was time to switch, it had already been 2.5 years and that's all the runtime the bodies get for Oro.
 
It does not take a fucking degree in chemistry to understand the fucking powers in fucking One Piece. HE'S MANIPULATING ANYTHING CURRENTLY IN THE STATE OF MATTER KNOWN AS A "GAS". He cannot take things that are solid or liquid and change them into gas.
 
Nononono

I'm like "nooooooooooooooooo, Kishitani", but then I was like "yeahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh, Kishitani!".

So, this is pretty much over now. I guess there's like 1 or 2 more chapters or something. Wonder if we'll get any kind of closure.
 
Naruto

I really expected Kishi to make Orochimaru's return plausible since everything that was needed was already in place last chapter. The sword of totsuka could easily be made into a jutsu that was unlocked by taking Itachi's eyes, and a suitable host (Anko) was already in place. Instead Kishi chose to turn Orochimaru into Voldemort, adding to the ever-increasing list of plotholes. Orochimaru put the curse seal on hundreds of people, so why didn't he simply revive himself when his hosts decayed in both part one and two?

On the other hand the best villian is back, which hopefully will restore the manga to some of its previous glory.

Bleach

This weeks chapter was really good. Killing off some of the good guys, even if they are minor characters, adds much needed tension to the manga.
 
One Piece

Pondering how they'll fight. Usopp did exactly what I would have thought of, but then CC just hax'd his way out of it. Perhaps they'll go into depth about Haki-Armor manipulation? Luffy could suck it a lot of air, seal his mouth with Haki and if it's strong enough, prevent CC from taking the air right? I dunno, just an idea.

This is an interesting arc just for the fact I can't possibly predict wtf is going to happen. Who is in Chopper's body again, Nami? She seems to be sneaking around, so I'm sure she'll do something.
 
Assassination Classroom 2

Not bad.

I guess the first few chapters will be introducing the major students and their problems and then the story will maybe change. I still have no idea if this is being planned on being random wacky adventures with students and the teacher or if shit will get serious at some point.

The teacher's flashbacks make me think that there will probably be something at least vaguely serious buried under the wacky adventures.
 
Chopper is in Chopper's body. Nami is in Sanji's body, and vice versa.

Right, thanks. This gets very confusing sometimes, haha. Rereading the chapter I should have realized, considering Nami was using the Clima Tact. >_>

Also, found it kind of funny that it seems like Luffy and Smoker are catching up in the jail. And Law's "I can't believe this happened" face. Also it appears a spoon has replaced the burger on Virgo's face.
 
Water vapor does not exist. Go read some books kid.
Water vapor is not water, it's water vapor. I'm not really asking for a lot of stocks here man, just hear me out. I'll split it into 3 so you can easily reply to whichever part is the serial killer.

To make water into water vapor, you need to do something to the water, right?

To do something to the water, you need to do something to the water, right?

But water is liquid, so CC can't do anything to the water using his DF powers. Thus, water stays water.
 
First of all, you should not talk. Everyone who made a positive comment about Bleach you comment about their comment. It´s like you resent people for liking what you don´t like. Second of all, it´s not stupid at all to question a broke ass character and the limit of their broken abilities.

Just a few days ago I found myself defending Bleach cause a few people in this thread seem convinced that Kubo can't draw backgrounds or whatever. I think Bleach has plenty of positive parts.

There's only one reason I resent bleach, and that's because until SS it had potential to be one of my favourite manga. (re-reading parts of it when I wanted to point out the BG art was high quality back when Kubo actually bothered made me realise this more)

Heck, I'm pretty sure I've been positive about Bleach in this thread at least a few times, it still has a few of my favourite powers out of any of the big shonen & great art and a fight I super enjoyed in recent memory.

What I do react negatively to is people enjoying stuff I personally see as the downfall of a series (like Bleach) or being unequal in their judgement regarding these things.

For example: I'm probably one of the very few people who enjoyed the fullbring arc, cause honestly? The insanity of Tsukishima's power was original, interesting and put Ichigo into a very odd non-combat situation he couldn't just fight his way out of.

And then ... lots of fights happened. I'm sorry, that makes me feel so bad I have to complain about it. There's certain tropes I don't like, that's one of them.

I can probably make a huge post with things I enjoy about Bleach if you want, it might give you an idea what about Bleach angers me the most. (spoilers: Chad is one of my favourite characters)


There's been absolutely no implication in any way or place of him being able to split chemical bonds, let alone splitting atoms. So if you know the difference you're making arguments fully knowing they're bad.
There´s no implication that he can´t.



We will have to wait and see his full ability.

Look, the thing is your original quote:

What stopping Caesar from controlling hydrogen in the water, separate it and make fusion to generate so much heat to melt everyone?

This isn't speculation as to what he might be able to. You know fully well that he's probably not doing that cause he can't do it.

I think speculating about the limits of powers is fine, but questions along the line of "why doesn't he just x" imply that he should be able to do that.

Maybe I'm misunderstanding you, if so I apologise. But generally speaking when I or others ask questions like that, it has to do with an author failing to realise the full implications of the powers, rather than genuine curiosity.

And uhm..
True, but he can change the composition of a gas why not change the composition of water which made of H2O. He can separate Oxygen from the air, so why would he not be able to separate the Oxygen from water? And why would Oxygen in the water would be out of the realms of his ability?

Honestly, I only asked if you knew the difference between chemical bonds and mixtures because it'd give you a very simple answer to this "why" question.

We can assume he can't do that, which is why he can't do the things he suggested, right?

And if it is shown he does have that power in the future, you've got a plot hole or crazy power implication worth pointing out.

I agree it's possible that he could do that, but it'd have bad implications for how he's being writen.



Water vapor is not water, it's water vapor. I'm not really asking for a lot of stocks here man, just hear me out. I'll split it into 3 so you can easily reply to whichever part is the serial killer.

To make water into water vapor, you need to do something to the water, right?

To do something to the water, you need to do something to the water, right?

But water is liquid, so CC can't do anything to the water using his DF powers. Thus, water stays water.

Water and Water Vapor are both H2O, We just use different names for the gaseous state. Beam is perfectly right in pointing that out.

(I will say that considering they're on the frozen side of the island, there must be a very minimal amount of water vapor around though.)
 
Well, they are on an island which is half ice, half fire so there will plenty of water vapor to go around. /trollface

Ignoring the fact that Beam's initial argument was that he could "take the hydrogen from water" (not that it matters but he likes to do nitpick on irrelevant stuff to prove others wrong so I thought I'd do the same) there's still the problem that there is more reason to believe that he can't split chemical bonds because he still needs his Gastanets after all.
 
Water and Water Vapor are both H2O, We just use different names for the gaseous state. Beam is perfectly right in pointing that out.
The gaseous state is what counts here, not the chemical structure of the substance (thus he can't touch the water or do anything to it). So I don't really get what you're saying.
 
A Bride's Story vol 3
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Why me so sad?

Damn this volume. It was centered around Smith, which made it feel lighthearted initially, then it made me a bit worried, finally it was warming my heart only to crush everything with the way the whole thing ended. What hurts most is.... how damn real that situation feels.
 
The gaseous state is what counts here, not the chemical structure of the substance (thus he can't touch the water or do anything to it). So I don't really get what you're saying.

He's talking about splitting H2O though, so for his argument the chemical structure is more important than the phase.

If you had gasseous H2O (water vapor), could C.C. split this chemical bond?

That's what Beam's asking. So no need to really mention water. (unless I'm misunderstanding something here.)

Ignoring the fact that Beam's initial argument was that he could "take the hydrogen from water" (not that it matters but he likes to do nitpick on irrelevant stuff to prove others wrong so I thought I'd do the same) there's still the problem that there is more reason to believe that he can't split chemical bonds because he still needs his Gastanets after all.

Yeah I pointed that out as well, thanks for providing the name.

He's clearly using bombs to cause the explosions, so he seems capable of moving gas around freely, but not chemically altering them.
 
He's talking about splitting H2O though, so for his argument the chemical structure is more important than the phase.

If you had gasseous H2O (water vapor), could C.C. split this chemical bond?

That's what Beam's asking. So no need to really mention water. (unless I'm misunderstanding something here.)
But he clearly.. taking hydrothing from water.. wait. But he's the one.. water...! Wait. Just wait let me think about this.

We should just retcon the original argument, then I would be fine with everything and it will all make sense.
 
Yeah I pointed that out as well, thanks for providing the name.

He's clearly using bombs to cause the explosions, so he seems capable of moving gas around freely, but not chemically altering them.

They're not bombs but castanets.

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I proved you wrong and completely destroyed your argument, One Piece fanboy, thanks for playing!
 
Don't argue with beam about OP or Bleach, it never ends well. He won't ever back down no matter how retarded his argument is, he will then proclaim to have won and "destroyed" your argument because in reality no one has a real response to something that crazy.
 
Assassination Classroom 1 & 2

Um, what.

Ok, so a godlike being blew up the moon, is going to blow up the Earth, and what do the governments of Earth do?

Have him be the homeroom teacher for a class of academically dreadful Japanese middle school students.

Makes sense.

At least the teacher is a godlike troll.
 
Don't argue with beam about OP or Bleach, it never ends well. He won't ever back down no matter how retarded his argument is, he will then proclaim to have won and "destroyed" your argument because in reality no one has a real response to something that crazy.

To be fair, that's Wednesday/shounengaf in a nutshell. ^^
 
Assassination Classroom 1 & 2

Um, what.

Ok, so a godlike being blew up the moon, is going to blow up the Earth, and what do the governments of Earth do?

Have him be the homeroom teacher for a class of academically dreadful Japanese middle school students.

Makes sense.

At least the teacher is a godlike troll.
He did kind of blackmail them. I doubt he'll take it nicely if the government tries to kill him again.

The best they can do it try to kill him right before the time limit with a trump card, after the class experiments with him for a year.
 
One Piece

Whoever did the translation needs to be fired. That's like Alabasta bad. Good thing I found another one, but I shouldn't have to do that.
 
When he can separate the oxygen from the air, than he should be able to fuse Hydrogen.

He's not a hadron collider dude. Fusing hydrogen requires incredible amounts of energy. It'll probably be the last move he does.


Edit: Actually wait. If I understand correctly you're claiming that he has power over the individual atoms of all the elements which naturally occur as gases. If he can fuse hydrogen or extract hydrogen from water what's stopping him from extracting Oxygen from solids, say, organic matter.

He's been displayed to be able to transform and control gases. It's a state of matter. Everything can be turned into some sort of vapour with sufficient heat. There has been no indication that he's an 'element' man, he can merely control matter which is currently in gaseous form.
 
Don't argue with beam about OP or Bleach, it never ends well. He won't ever back down no matter how retarded his argument is, he will then proclaim to have won and "destroyed" your argument because in reality no one has a real response to something that crazy.

I'd call him reactionary, not crazy. I don't think he's very careful in his choice of words cause he enjoys rubbing OP fans the wrong way, but I haven't seen him do anything out of the ordinary aside from that.
 
One Piece:

Have people forgotten that Ace's mother held Ace inside her womb an additional 20 months before he was born? I seriously doubt Oda is thinking as hard as some of you guys with Ceasar Clown's gas abilities.
 
Why are you guys having a hard science discussion for a series where soft science is the rule?

This is a series where magma hurts fire because its hotter (its not). And a series where we were just introduced to a fake meth whose chemical compound is impossible and which somehow makes kids giant.

EDIT: What Kreed said too
 
TWGOK is great, read that!

I will take your recommendation into account but I still need a certain traitor's blessing!

#teamogodera

Why are you guys having a hard science discussion for a series where soft science is the rule?

This is a series where magma hurts fire because its hotter (its not). And a series where we were just introduced to a fake meth whose chemical compound is impossible and which somehow makes kids giant.

Reading this and going back to my posts... I'm still the most reasonable /smug
 
Why are you guys having a hard science discussion for a series where soft science is the rule?

This is a series where magma hurts fire because its hotter (its not). And a series where we were just introduced to a fake meth whose chemical compound is impossible and which somehow makes kids giant.

EDIT: What Kreed said too

You could have just said

"this is a series where the main character is made of rubber that can block bullets" and left it at that. :p
 
One Piece:
I seriously doubt Oda is thinking as hard as some of you guys with Ceasar Clown's gas abilities.

If Oda would have only streamlined his devil fruit powers when they are introduced then much deep speculation could always be avoided. I guess thats what happens when depth is tried to be achieved but then fails to achieve it upon execution on account of being too nebulous and vague.
 
No I am, let us argue this.

You shouldn't say anything, I already destroyed you in our previous argument.


Dedication Through Light said:
If Oda would have only streamlined his devil fruit powers when they are introduced then much deep speculation could always be avoided. I guess thats what happens when depth is tried to be achieved but then fails to achieve it upon execution on account of being too nebulous and vague.

It's getting harder to tell...

but I see what you did there.
 
Takamagahara 1

best series description ever said:

:lol I love the energy. My kind of manga.

No really, this was great. Dunno how to explain it, the way the panels and dialogue work are really fun. The brothers are awesome (Musashi especially). The only silly thing is the god's power stuff but who cares about that negligible detail.

Definitely keeping this.
 
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