The Dark Knight Rises |OT| The Legend Ends (Warning: Unmarked Spoilers Within)
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One scene would have been fantastic, then the breakout at Blackgate/Arkham and an empty Joker cell. Would have been top fucking notch.
bengraven
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Nah, I'm not trying to be silly.
I'm just saying a little easter egg. Like maybe Lucious finds the LoS's network is encrypted and it's going to take some time and he sees that the username of the sysadmin is "edwardn" or something. Just for fun, but nothing ridiculous.
That's from Trailer 1.
planar1280
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Nm ur right about that scene..
Anne Hathaway went to her screen test preparing for Harley Quinn because she thought he would never use Catwoman.
Exactly. Give Joker one Hannibal Lecter type monologue, then an empty cell. Don't have him steal the show; let him enhance it.
I don't see Nolan doing that. If he's going to introduce a character, he'll do it because they have an arc to run throughout the movie. He tends to make relatively standalone movies. There's a reason why Two-Face wasn't saved for a third film or why he wasn't resurrected for a sequel.
EDIT: Don't get me wrong; it would have been sweet, but I don't think the alternate "Ledger lives" universe would have panned out this way.
EDIT: Don't get me wrong; it would have been sweet, but I don't think the alternate "Ledger lives" universe would have panned out this way.
Ledger's last lines in TDK seemed too good to let go to waste. Even just acknowledging his existence in the universe would have been nice, but I understand why Nolan's decided not to.
brucewaynegretzky
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I agree. I don't think the Joker would have been a major part of the next movie, but I do think he would have made an appearance SLIGHTLY longer than Scarecrow's in TDK, and that would have been perfect.
I still think we'll get SOMETHING about the Joker in TDKR though.
Nolan said no mention, as to be respectful to Ledger.
planar1280
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That's a good point. But I feel like a character such as Joker, if reintroduced midway through a film, tears the focus away from whatever that particular film's threat is. His presence is a massive distraction, in a way Scarecrow's tucked-away-in-the-beginning-to-wrap-up-loose-ends cameo isn't.
Heath's death doesn't really have anything to do with that though; they obviously tossed out that idea before even writing TDK.
They didn't start writing TDKR until after TDK came out. Heath died before TDK came out. Don't know how you can say that.
Lionel Mandrake
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"Oh God. Is the pinky touching me? Oh dear Jesus, it is isn't it? I can feel it coiling against my arm. Oh God. Oh God. Oh God."
planar1280
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Not a magazine, it was posted under recent google images
They had an idea before writing TDK to make it Joker-centric and only introduce Harvey; in the sequel, during Joker's trial, he'd scar Dent and make him Two-Face, with Joker hovering in the background, Hannibal Lecter-esque.
They scrapped that though and compressed Dent's arc.
planar1280
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Where did you get that from? Everyone involved in this said there was no plan for a movie after tdk until after release
I think it was from a Goyer interview back in 07/08. I'll try to find it.
shira
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So Bane lets eveyone out of
prison.......
Nevermind. Here it is: http://www.superherohype.com/features/articles/88561-premiere-features-batman-begins
As for the claims that they "never thought about sequels," it's more like they said in other interviews: "put all of our good ideas in this one, and not hold back." They've had ideas about sequels from the start, but the success of these movies was never guaranteed. That's why they made them good individual, standalone films first.
As for the claims that they "never thought about sequels," it's more like they said in other interviews: "put all of our good ideas in this one, and not hold back." They've had ideas about sequels from the start, but the success of these movies was never guaranteed. That's why they made them good individual, standalone films first.
Take place before prison break of course and then Joker gets out. Have a bunch of mercs run past empty cell with nothing but knives and lint LOL
planar1280
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Looks like they had a small idea for a 2 movie feature but ended up making just one, two face's creation in tdk was much better than the trial stuff goyer seems to convey
NotTheGuyYouKill
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Saw this last night. So funny.
Didn't someone ask for a Female Bane a couple of weeks back?
Why.
Hahahahaha.
Someone took a photo of the back of the art book on SHH, but it's pretty crappy. Here's my try.
Awesome.
shira
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We need another sacrificial lamb.
revolverjgw
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I'm recovering from a surgery that's going to keep me from seeing this in theater, no way I can sit for anywhere near 160 minutes. I don't know if I'll be able to make it through the release period without losing my mind. This fucking thread. This fucking movie.
Yeah, I think what they went with was much better myself. I don't think Two-Face, at least as portrayed in Nolan's films, would have been compelling enough villain for a two hours. The tragic hero route, in the background of some other drama, worked much better.
Though I know some people will disagree with the execution of it.
A major spoiler (which might be false).
Major rage.
I was banned (richisawesome too).
I returned (richisawesome too).
GIFs.
Rankings.
Off-topic chat.
Just another BatGAF thread! Honestly, thread is totally worth a read :lol
Some dipshit posted a false spoiler and sent everybody in a rage.
There were bans and resurrections.
I thought Eckhart was incredible. On rewatch potentially the best thing about TDK for me.
Nemesis121
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I re-watched Batman Begins last night, movie is so underrated and so damn goooooood, and Katie Holmes was hot in BB...
I see Ra's appreciation has gone up quite a bit since the BB days. Don't know if it's a result of Neeson's career renaissance starting with Taken or people just getting reacquainted with BB, but it makes me happy.
Batman begins, in my opinion, was always the better film, structurally, tonally and much better paced than TDK which didnt have the best third act. I really cant think of a glaring flaw with BB.
I remember thinking in 2004 that the casting of Liam as Ducard was great, and that Ra's as the villain was awesome yet risky since it was an origin story.
And my Cotillard crush grows on. Does anyone think if we ever begin cloning people, that we should start off with Cotillard and just have 3 Marions for each person? I'd be content with that world.
I would clone my dicks
shira
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Did he ever call Bruce "detective"?
brucewaynegretzky
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Pretty sure he did.
Yeah the end of TDK is quite long with two-face and the Joker final plan, but the moment where Jim Gordon define who is Batman is just great.
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